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Old January 17th 05, 04:52 PM
 
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Can you receive cellular phone calls on a modified scanner? I thought
with all phone being digital now you could not?

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Can you receive cellular phone calls on a modified scanner? I thought
with all phone being digital now you could not?

There is very little activity in the old cell bands - What with analog
roaming and such, there is still a little.
So yes, people advertsing their scanners as UNBLOCKED !!!!! are really
saying
very little in practice - The only good reason to pay a premium to get
one would be to bank on the possibility that some other service of
interest will
eventually move into this frequency region.



WHAT the hell are you smoking dude?
Do you even HAVE a scanner? or did mommy leave the computer turned on
tonight?
Digital sucks, just like FM never replaced AM radio, cause of the fast
dropoff of signal over distance.


Yeah .. Still jamming down to Iron Butterfly on 8 tracks too ?

There are more analog phones than ever in many towns, especially now
that rates are low, lots more traffic. Go to a town of about 100,000
people that are spread out in the middle of Arizona or Texas or Utah.
You will find a lot more people talking on cell phone frequencies than
talking on the other public bands!


I honestly gave up on eavedropping on cell calls years ago when I entered
manhood.
The few times I give the band a whirl these days theres next to little or no
action - Maybe its different out in the sticks I dont' know _ I don't live
out in the sticks, I live in a major urban area where most people can afford
a decent phone and a decent plan.
If your such a cell band authority, then try answering the question you step
child dim rod.



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Old January 18th 05, 05:39 AM
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Well atleast now we know what you were listening for.

T-bone wrote:
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I honestly gave up on eavedropping on cell calls years ago when I entered
manhood.



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Old January 18th 05, 04:59 PM
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On the contrary the CDMA/TDMA phones still use the same band as the AMPS
units.

As far as listening to conversations there are a few analog signals left but
towers limit the amount of analog conversations as they take up a lot more
space than digital. Analog seems more prevalent for customers from a TDMA
provider traveling in a CDMA market or vise versa.

So to answer his question - yes you can but you aren't going to here too
much

"T-bone" wrote in message

Can you receive cellular phone calls on a modified scanner? I thought
with all phone being digital now you could not?

There is very little activity in the old cell bands - What with analog
roaming and such, there is still a little.
So yes, people advertsing their scanners as UNBLOCKED !!!!! are really
saying
very little in practice - The only good reason to pay a premium to get one
would be to bank on the possibility that some other service of interest
will
eventually move into this frequency region.





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Old January 18th 05, 07:25 PM
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I notice our phones always switch to analog out here at home. We are on a
small ranch in Texas golf coast area. I know all the trees kill the digital
signals. Had the same trouble with my police radio in the cruiser when I got
close to home. I had to switch from the 800 trunked stuff to vhf to be able
to hit the dispatcher. I guess this is kinda the same thing?? I know squatt
about cell phone technology. haha!


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Old January 19th 05, 05:09 AM
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Bill Crocker wrote in
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So yes, people advertsing their scanners as UNBLOCKED !!!!! are really
saying very little in practice - The only good reason to pay a premium
to get one would be to bank on the possibility that some other service
of interest will eventually move into this frequency region.



That's not entirely true. Take Icom, and Yaesu, for example. When they
block out the cellular portion fo the spectrum, they block out
additional bandwidth below, and above the frequencies that the FCC
requires them to omit. So you may not be able to monitor perfectly
legal trunked systems, because they fall into this blocked-overlap, so
to speak. In addition to that , many radios have to block portions of
the spectrum that are in an entirely different band, due to the
possibility of receiving cellular images. So you end up with a very
crippled radio!

Bill Crocker



Well ... I guess its only crippled insofar as theres anything in the
blocked portions worth listening to - And if Icom ect are dumb enough to
block legit portions, then I simply would not purchase one.
As far as blocking possible mirror freqs, I imagine they would be in the
700-900 range, and as such not much of a sacrifice.
I thought the law was stupid when first enacted, and haven't changed that
opinion.
The responsibility to ensure private comms should have rested exclusively
with cell phone providers - And as we all know, anyone with half a notion
could listen to them nonetheless.
I've learned to live with the ban though, and even though I have radios
perfectly capable of receiving blocked bands, I never do - And would not
pay much of a premium for a scanner that is unblocked ... Except, like I
said, as a hedge against someday a service of interest moving to these
bands.



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