Is winradio as good as it's made out to be?
I'm thinking of buying one but I'd like to make sure there aren't any really
dis-satisfied customers out there first.

"Geoff Burginon" wrote in message
news:41faecda.13177859@news-server...
Half of what you remember is correct, the other half is not: They did
indeed review all the three radios you mention, but the Winradio was a
clear winner. They said it is the "ne plus ultra" amongst all PC
radios. I have the G313 and I would never ever look back. Superb
radio.

Geoff

and only half of that is right. The winradio g303i and tentec rx-3200 were BOTH
rated 4-star 'passport's choice'. The icom pcr1000 was only rated 3 stars.

However, this IS rec.radio.scanner -- not rec.radio.shortwave, and Passport's
'Verdict' section on the icom says "Among tested PC-controlled receivers, the
Japanese-made Icom IC-PCR1000 is the most appropriate for wideband frequency
coverage." -- which kind of sounds like what a rec.radio.scanner questioner
would be interested in...

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 03:32:15 GMT, "SamSez"
wrote:


"Geoff Burginon" wrote in message
news:41faecda.13177859@news-server...
Half of what you remember is correct, the other half is not: They did
indeed review all the three radios you mention, but the Winradio was a
clear winner. They said it is the "ne plus ultra" amongst all PC
radios. I have the G313 and I would never ever look back. Superb
radio.

Geoff

and only half of that is right. The winradio g303i and tentec rx-3200 were BOTH
rated 4-star 'passport's choice'. The icom pcr1000 was only rated 3 stars.

Yes, and only half of that is right. ;-) TenTec got 4 stars and
WinRadio also, but only WinRadio was declared "ne plus ultra amongst
PC receivers". (Just looked up "ne plus ultra" in a dictionary to be
sure, it means "the pinnacle" or "the ultimate", simply the very
best.)

And the WRTH awarded five stars to G303 with a glowing review.

To anyone who has tried both receivers, the difference between TenTec
320 and Winradio G303 is quite obvious: You buy TenTec if you are
happy with a conventional performance receiver with a crude PC
control, and your budget is tight. You buy WinRadio if you want more
innovation and refinement, better performance and better features, and
don't mind paying a little more.

However, this IS rec.radio.scanner -- not rec.radio.shortwave, and Passport's
'Verdict' section on the icom says "Among tested PC-controlled receivers, the
Japanese-made Icom IC-PCR1000 is the most appropriate for wideband frequency
coverage." -- which kind of sounds like what a rec.radio.scanner questioner
would be interested in...

Indeed. In such case I would have however recommend the WinRadio
WR-1550e. I happen to own this model also, and in my experience it
runs circles around the PCR 1000.

Geoff

"Geoff Burginon" wrote in message
news:41fb67ad.451203@news-server...
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 03:32:15 GMT, "SamSez"
However, this IS rec.radio.scanner -- not rec.radio.shortwave, and
Passport's
'Verdict' section on the icom says "Among tested PC-controlled receivers,
the
Japanese-made Icom IC-PCR1000 is the most appropriate for wideband
frequency
coverage." -- which kind of sounds like what a rec.radio.scanner
questioner
would be interested in...

Indeed. In such case I would have however recommend the WinRadio
WR-1550e. I happen to own this model also, and in my experience it
runs circles around the PCR 1000.

Geoff

Concur - owning both a PCR1000 and a Winradio 1500e, I fully support the
statement. My experience with the PCR 1000 has been very negative to put it
mildly - it has **** sensitivity and has woeful support from hte
manufacturer. The top of the line winradio gear is a damn sight more
expensive, but there is not a lot of cost difference between the 1000 and
the 1550 - my advice, don't waste your money on the Icom.





Matt

"Geoff Burginon" wrote in message
news:41fb67ad.451203@news-server...
snip

However, this IS rec.radio.scanner -- not rec.radio.shortwave, and Passport's
'Verdict' section on the icom says "Among tested PC-controlled receivers, the
Japanese-made Icom IC-PCR1000 is the most appropriate for wideband frequency
coverage." -- which kind of sounds like what a rec.radio.scanner questioner
would be interested in...

Indeed. In such case I would have however recommend the WinRadio
WR-1550e. I happen to own this model also, and in my experience it
runs circles around the PCR 1000.

Geoff


You might indeed recommend it, but Passport did not... [the original question?]

"Matt" wrote in message
...
"Geoff Burginon" wrote in message
news:41fb67ad.451203@news-server...
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 03:32:15 GMT, "SamSez"
However, this IS rec.radio.scanner -- not rec.radio.shortwave, and
Passport's
'Verdict' section on the icom says "Among tested PC-controlled receivers,
the
Japanese-made Icom IC-PCR1000 is the most appropriate for wideband
frequency
coverage." -- which kind of sounds like what a rec.radio.scanner
questioner
would be interested in...

Indeed. In such case I would have however recommend the WinRadio
WR-1550e. I happen to own this model also, and in my experience it
runs circles around the PCR 1000.

Geoff

Concur - owning both a PCR1000 and a Winradio 1500e, I fully support the
statement. My experience with the PCR 1000 has been very negative to put it
mildly - it has **** sensitivity and has woeful support from hte
manufacturer. The top of the line winradio gear is a damn sight more
expensive, but there is not a lot of cost difference between the 1000 and
the 1550 - my advice, don't waste your money on the Icom.





Matt


Disagree -- sold my 1500e and bought a second 1000. Each to his own. Spend
your money wisely.

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 16:16:30 GMT, "SamSez"
wrote:


"Geoff Burginon" wrote in message
news:41fb67ad.451203@news-server...
snip

However, this IS rec.radio.scanner -- not rec.radio.shortwave, and Passport's
'Verdict' section on the icom says "Among tested PC-controlled receivers, the
Japanese-made Icom IC-PCR1000 is the most appropriate for wideband frequency
coverage." -- which kind of sounds like what a rec.radio.scanner questioner
would be interested in...

Indeed. In such case I would have however recommend the WinRadio
WR-1550e. I happen to own this model also, and in my experience it
runs circles around the PCR 1000.

Geoff


You might indeed recommend it, but Passport did not... [the original question?]


Passport did not review Winradio 1550e in fact. And even if they did,
I'd rather verify their opinion myself, as I always do - trust me I am
very well qualified for that. Also, as you are correctly implying
elsewhere, different people can have different needs and motivations,
and other issues rather than those of strictly objective technical
merit can, and often do, come into play, and I have seen this
happening with Passport also.

But that particular Passport comparison involved only Winradio G303i
vs TenTec vs PCR1000, which I have already covered. You can also see
the TenTec and Winradio receivers compared side by side by Lee
Reynolds in the August 2003 issue of the Monitoring Times magazine.
The G303i was, unsurprisingly, a clear winner.

So, the answer to the original question is, "yes, Winradio is really
that good", and often better than it is being credited for. I guess
the reason is that they are often miles ahead of others. Just look at
their latest G303e and G313i - there is simply no comparison:
http://www.winradio.com/home/g303e.htm
http://www.winradio.com/home/g313i.htm

Geoff

"Geoff Burginon" wrote in message
news:41fc1759.1072906@news-server...
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 16:16:30 GMT, "SamSez"
wrote:


"Geoff Burginon" wrote in message
news:41fb67ad.451203@news-server...
snip

However, this IS rec.radio.scanner -- not rec.radio.shortwave, and
Passport's
'Verdict' section on the icom says "Among tested PC-controlled receivers,
the
Japanese-made Icom IC-PCR1000 is the most appropriate for wideband
frequency
coverage." -- which kind of sounds like what a rec.radio.scanner
questioner
would be interested in...

Indeed. In such case I would have however recommend the WinRadio
WR-1550e. I happen to own this model also, and in my experience it
runs circles around the PCR 1000.

Geoff


You might indeed recommend it, but Passport did not... [the original
question?]


Passport did not review Winradio 1550e in fact. And even if they did,
I'd rather verify their opinion myself, as I always do - trust me I am
very well qualified for that. Also, as you are correctly implying
elsewhere, different people can have different needs and motivations,
and other issues rather than those of strictly objective technical
merit can, and often do, come into play, and I have seen this
happening with Passport also.

But that particular Passport comparison involved only Winradio G303i
vs TenTec vs PCR1000, which I have already covered. You can also see
the TenTec and Winradio receivers compared side by side by Lee
Reynolds in the August 2003 issue of the Monitoring Times magazine.
The G303i was, unsurprisingly, a clear winner.

So, the answer to the original question is, "yes, Winradio is really
that good", and often better than it is being credited for. I guess
the reason is that they are often miles ahead of others. Just look at
their latest G303e and G313i - there is simply no comparison:
http://www.winradio.com/home/g303e.htm
http://www.winradio.com/home/g313i.htm

Geoff


So I guess you're the guy I buy one from...

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 02:24:33 GMT, "SamSez"
wrote:


"Geoff Burginon" wrote in message
news:41fc1759.1072906@news-server...
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 16:16:30 GMT, "SamSez"
wrote:


"Geoff Burginon" wrote in message
news:41fb67ad.451203@news-server...
snip

However, this IS rec.radio.scanner -- not rec.radio.shortwave, and
Passport's
'Verdict' section on the icom says "Among tested PC-controlled receivers,
the
Japanese-made Icom IC-PCR1000 is the most appropriate for wideband
frequency
coverage." -- which kind of sounds like what a rec.radio.scanner
questioner
would be interested in...

Indeed. In such case I would have however recommend the WinRadio
WR-1550e. I happen to own this model also, and in my experience it
runs circles around the PCR 1000.

Geoff


You might indeed recommend it, but Passport did not... [the original
question?]


Passport did not review Winradio 1550e in fact. And even if they did,
I'd rather verify their opinion myself, as I always do - trust me I am
very well qualified for that. Also, as you are correctly implying
elsewhere, different people can have different needs and motivations,
and other issues rather than those of strictly objective technical
merit can, and often do, come into play, and I have seen this
happening with Passport also.

But that particular Passport comparison involved only Winradio G303i
vs TenTec vs PCR1000, which I have already covered. You can also see
the TenTec and Winradio receivers compared side by side by Lee
Reynolds in the August 2003 issue of the Monitoring Times magazine.
The G303i was, unsurprisingly, a clear winner.

So, the answer to the original question is, "yes, Winradio is really
that good", and often better than it is being credited for. I guess
the reason is that they are often miles ahead of others. Just look at
their latest G303e and G313i - there is simply no comparison:
http://www.winradio.com/home/g303e.htm
http://www.winradio.com/home/g313i.htm

Geoff


So I guess you're the guy I buy one from...


Sorry, I am not selling mine, as you can see I am a very happy owner.
:-)

So I guess you must be running out of arguments if you are resorting
to such cheap shots. ;-)

Geoff

"Geoff Burginon" wrote in message
news:41fc5358.16432218@news-server...
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 02:24:33 GMT, "SamSez"
wrote:


"Geoff Burginon" wrote in message
news:41fc1759.1072906@news-server...
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 16:16:30 GMT, "SamSez"
wrote:


"Geoff Burginon" wrote in message
news:41fb67ad.451203@news-server...
snip

However, this IS rec.radio.scanner -- not rec.radio.shortwave, and
Passport's
'Verdict' section on the icom says "Among tested PC-controlled
receivers,
the
Japanese-made Icom IC-PCR1000 is the most appropriate for wideband
frequency
coverage." -- which kind of sounds like what a rec.radio.scanner
questioner
would be interested in...

Indeed. In such case I would have however recommend the WinRadio
WR-1550e. I happen to own this model also, and in my experience it
runs circles around the PCR 1000.

Geoff


You might indeed recommend it, but Passport did not... [the original
question?]


Passport did not review Winradio 1550e in fact. And even if they did,
I'd rather verify their opinion myself, as I always do - trust me I am
very well qualified for that. Also, as you are correctly implying
elsewhere, different people can have different needs and motivations,
and other issues rather than those of strictly objective technical
merit can, and often do, come into play, and I have seen this
happening with Passport also.

But that particular Passport comparison involved only Winradio G303i
vs TenTec vs PCR1000, which I have already covered. You can also see
the TenTec and Winradio receivers compared side by side by Lee
Reynolds in the August 2003 issue of the Monitoring Times magazine.
The G303i was, unsurprisingly, a clear winner.

So, the answer to the original question is, "yes, Winradio is really
that good", and often better than it is being credited for. I guess
the reason is that they are often miles ahead of others. Just look at
their latest G303e and G313i - there is simply no comparison:
http://www.winradio.com/home/g303e.htm
http://www.winradio.com/home/g313i.htm

Geoff


So I guess you're the guy I buy one from...


Sorry, I am not selling mine, as you can see I am a very happy owner.
:-)

So I guess you must be running out of arguments if you are resorting
to such cheap shots. ;-)

Geoff



Only because the credibility index went to zero with the statement that the
1550e "runs circles around" the 1000. Little point to rational arguments in
that environment.