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Old February 3rd 05, 05:06 AM
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Better re-check your law books regarding listening in Canada.

There is no law in Canada prohibiting a person from listening to cell
phones.

There is no law in Canada prohibiting a person from listening to
cordless phones.

There are no laws in Canada prohibiting a person from having a scanner
in their car.

It IS illegal to decode/descramble a subscription service signal without
paying for it. (that's in the various sections addressing 'theft of
service')

Nowhere in Canada, do you need an amateur radio operator's certificate
to own a scanner.

However: the radiocommunication act prohibits anyone who listens from
conveying or imparting that which was heard to a third party.
(aka: listen all you want, but keep the gossip to yourself.)

There are a few countries (USA included) that have laws prohibiting
cellular monitoring, cordless phone monitoring, etc. (land of the free,
but not free to listen to.. oh nevermind, I don't want to start a
shouting match here, but it is odd that a country that claims to protect
freedom at any cost quietly takes some away. Likely due to some
politician getting caught in some scam or scandal due to what they said
on a cell phone and the wrong people hearing it.)

Personally, they do a lot of things right in the USA, it can be a really
nice place (at least everywhere I've visited so far) but in my opinion,
the law banning of certain receivers, forbidding reception of certain
frequency ranges, and the prohibition of some receivers in cars (in
certain jurisdictions) does not make a lot of sense. (someone might
argue it's to prevent crooks from staying one step ahead of the
authorities, but last I checked, crooks, by definition, don't respect a
lot of laws anyway, therefore won't lose a lot of sleep having that
scanner in their car...




news.vif.com wrote:


wrote:

I know it is not legal


FYI illegal to listen to cellphones/cordless phones
US/Canada.

but can a regular scanner that covers 900 mhz
listen to cordless phone conversations?



Yes!.

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Old February 3rd 05, 03:44 PM
PowerHouse Communications
 
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"DougSlug" wrote in message
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Not all 900 MHz cordless phones utilize WFM, so a scanner that only offers
NFM may still be useful for this purpose.

I'm not going get into some huge debate or such crap, so:
You are somewhat corect, not all, but MOST...


I'm not sure what you would consider "higher-end", but there are plenty of
"regular" scanners that have WFM.

Generally anything costing you more than $150 to $200, and that includes
Trunk Tracking, I would classify as "higher-end". You won't find WFM on the
majority of (if any) "regular" scanners.

You can include your answer among those that are "not worth a damn".

I think yours grabs that category a little better than mine. Mine
contributed useful information, yours was just there to start an argument...



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Old February 3rd 05, 04:19 PM
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Mine contributed useful information, yours was just there to start an
argument...


Whatever, dude. One man's trash is another man's treasure.


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Old February 3rd 05, 04:56 PM
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"bob" wrote

There are a few countries (USA included) that have laws prohibiting
cellular monitoring, cordless phone monitoring, etc. (land of the free,
but not free to listen to.. oh nevermind, I don't want to start a
shouting match here, but it is odd that a country that claims to protect
freedom at any cost quietly takes some away. Likely due to some
politician getting caught in some scam or scandal due to what they said
on a cell phone and the wrong people hearing it.)


But you left plenty of bait for a shouting match anyway......



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Old February 5th 05, 02:32 PM
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I'm not sure what you would consider "higher-end", but there are plenty

of
"regular" scanners that have WFM.

Generally anything costing you more than $150 to $200, and that includes
Trunk Tracking, I would classify as "higher-end". You won't find WFM on

the
majority of (if any) "regular" scanners.


Very few scanners don't have WFM.


According to this FAQ, looks like the majority of the NON-Trunking "regular"
SCANNERS don't have WFM... Perhaps you get your information from some other
planet?





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Old February 5th 05, 02:42 PM
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"Mark" wrote in message
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In order to actually receive an intelligible
signal your scanner would have to have WFM reception.


Just not true. Not for the majority of 900Mhz phones out there.

I must live in an area where they only sell WFM phones then... About a year
ago, when I did some listening in, there were VERY FEW, (like maybe 2) that
I could actually receive, the rest were unintelligable as they were in WFM
(Over 95% I'd guess). You must live in one of those "odd-ball" areas that
only sell NFM analog 900Mhz phones. Good for you.

Of course, if the signal is digital, you aren't going to hear anything
anyway, no matter what kind of scanner you have...


I'll give you half of this statement as being correct.

You can give it all to me, there is nothing incorrect about the line you
commented on.


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Old February 5th 05, 06:55 PM
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"FeMaster" FeMaster @ hotmail . com wrote in message
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"Barry OGrady" wrote in message
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I'm not sure what you would consider "higher-end", but there are

plenty
of
"regular" scanners that have WFM.

Generally anything costing you more than $150 to $200, and that

includes
Trunk Tracking, I would classify as "higher-end". You won't find WFM

on
the
majority of (if any) "regular" scanners.


Very few scanners don't have WFM.


According to this FAQ, looks like the majority of the NON-Trunking

"regular"
SCANNERS don't have WFM... Perhaps you get your information from some

other
planet?


What FAQ??
Every scanner that I have has WFM - and I do not own trunking scanners -
some of my scanners have been cheap arsed pieces of ****e, some are good
quality, but all have had WFM.
Uniden 200 XLT
Uniden 220 XLT
Icom IC-R3
Winradio 1500e
Icom PCR 1000
------ All of these have WFM

Maybe 20 to 30 years ago, WFM was not available in most scanners, but as BOG
has said, (and I hate to back him up, but here I must), very few scanners
don't have WFM. Perhaps you could advise which new scanners do not?



Matt


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Old February 5th 05, 07:20 PM
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"Matt" wrote in message
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"FeMaster" FeMaster @ hotmail . com wrote in message
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"Barry OGrady" wrote in message
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I'm not sure what you would consider "higher-end", but there are

plenty
of
"regular" scanners that have WFM.

Generally anything costing you more than $150 to $200, and that

includes
Trunk Tracking, I would classify as "higher-end". You won't find WFM

on
the
majority of (if any) "regular" scanners.

Very few scanners don't have WFM.


According to this FAQ, looks like the majority of the NON-Trunking

"regular"
SCANNERS don't have WFM... Perhaps you get your information from some

other
planet?


What FAQ??
Every scanner that I have has WFM - and I do not own trunking scanners -
some of my scanners have been cheap arsed pieces of ****e, some are good
quality, but all have had WFM.
Uniden 200 XLT
Uniden 220 XLT
Icom IC-R3
Winradio 1500e
Icom PCR 1000
------ All of these have WFM

Maybe 20 to 30 years ago, WFM was not available in most scanners, but as
BOG
has said, (and I hate to back him up, but here I must), very few scanners
don't have WFM. Perhaps you could advise which new scanners do not?



Matt



I had a 200 XLT years ago it didn't have Wide FM?


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Old February 7th 05, 12:36 AM
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"Matt" wrote in message
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"FeMaster" FeMaster @ hotmail . com wrote in message
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"Barry OGrady" wrote in message
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Very few scanners don't have WFM.


According to this FAQ, looks like the majority of the NON-Trunking
"regular"
SCANNERS don't have WFM... Perhaps you get your information from some
other
planet?


What FAQ??


Sorry, forgot the URL:
http://www.strongsignals.net/access/content/model.html


Every scanner that I have has WFM - and I do not own trunking scanners -
some of my scanners have been cheap arsed pieces of ****e, some are good
quality, but all have had WFM.
Uniden 200 XLT
Uniden 220 XLT
Icom IC-R3
Winradio 1500e
Icom PCR 1000
------ All of these have WFM

Icon and Winradio are not Scanners for starters, let alone "regular"
scanners...

Perhaps your should inform those guys over at Strong Signals that their
Scanner FAQ is incorrect, or better yet, the guys over at Uniden. I'm sure
they would be interested to know how you ended up with version of their
scanners that have a feature that was never designed into the unit to start
with. Must be by some miracle that your two Uniden scanners have WFM. How
did you manage to modify them to get it? I'd bet the rest of the world
would LOVE to know. I'm sure that it would certainly become a pretty
popular mod.

Maybe 20 to 30 years ago, WFM was not available in most scanners, but as

BOG
has said, (and I hate to back him up, but here I must), very few scanners
don't have WFM.

BOG is as much uninformed as your are. You both need to research what your
talking about, because neither has a clue... Just to satisfy the ignorant,
I did some research on the current listing of scanners over at the Uniden
site... As suspected, NONE of the "regular" scanners have WFM. Matter of
fact, even a number of the Trunk-tracking scanners do not have WFM. Only
the more recent HIGHER-END scanners come with WFM.

Of the 24 scanners listed on the site, a measly 5 come with WFM... So, I
think the statements that both of you made are backwards, they should have
read, "...very few scanners [DO] have WFM.

Perhaps you could advise which new scanners do not?

Inform you, sure... The 5 listed on Uniden's site that DO HAVE WFM a
BC796D, BC785D, BC780XLT, BC296D, BC250D - THAT's IT!

Which ones DON'T? The other 19 of course, which includes MANY new models:
BC246T, BC72XLT, BC895XLT, BC898T, BC92XLT, SC230, BCT8, BCT7, BC350A,
BC350C, BC80XLT, BC60XLT-1, SC200, SC180B, BC278CLT, BC248CLT, BC245XLT,
BC244CLT, BC120XLT

In the future, maybe it would be advisable for the two of you to do some
more research before you start typing and spreading falsities all over
UseNET...


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"Jim" wrote in message
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"Matt" wrote in message
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"FeMaster" FeMaster @ hotmail . com wrote in message
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"Barry OGrady" wrote in message
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I'm not sure what you would consider "higher-end", but there are

plenty
of
"regular" scanners that have WFM.

Generally anything costing you more than $150 to $200, and that

includes
Trunk Tracking, I would classify as "higher-end". You won't find

WFM
on
the
majority of (if any) "regular" scanners.

Very few scanners don't have WFM.


According to this FAQ, looks like the majority of the NON-Trunking

"regular"
SCANNERS don't have WFM... Perhaps you get your information from some

other
planet?


What FAQ??
Every scanner that I have has WFM - and I do not own trunking scanners -
some of my scanners have been cheap arsed pieces of ****e, some are good
quality, but all have had WFM.
Uniden 200 XLT
Uniden 220 XLT
Icom IC-R3
Winradio 1500e
Icom PCR 1000
------ All of these have WFM

Maybe 20 to 30 years ago, WFM was not available in most scanners, but as
BOG
has said, (and I hate to back him up, but here I must), very few

scanners
don't have WFM. Perhaps you could advise which new scanners do not?


I had a 200 XLT years ago it didn't have Wide FM?

That's because the pair of them have no idea what they are talking about...
Either that, or they buy their equipment on another planet...




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