Dwayne wrote:

It just as illegal for hams as it is fo non hams.

I really love the (relative) freedom here in Germany :-) Anyway, no
analogue cellphone service is left, so why bother about frequency
ranges?!



regards - Ralph

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Why does everyone say there's nothing left to analog cellular.

I don't have cellular band in my radio, but I listen the odd time to
them using image frequencies. And let me tell you, on any given day,
during day time hours, those frequencies are going rampant with
non-important day to day seemless phone conversations.

And don't tell me it's illegal to listen to them either, because in
Canada we have no laws concerning cellular bands.



Ralph A. Schmid, DK5RAS wrote:
Dwayne wrote:


It just as illegal for hams as it is fo non hams.


I really love the (relative) freedom here in Germany :-) Anyway, no
analogue cellphone service is left, so why bother about frequency
ranges?!



regards - Ralph

I think it's well known that cell phone monitoring is illegal only in the
US, so if you're outside the US, you can disregard those discussions...no
point in scolding a poster who may have forgotten to add "in the US" to the
message. We can all act like grown-ups here and forgive that minor
oversight.


"HotShot" wrote in message
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Why does everyone say there's nothing left to analog cellular.

I don't have cellular band in my radio, but I listen the odd time to them
using image frequencies. And let me tell you, on any given day, during
day time hours, those frequencies are going rampant with non-important day
to day seemless phone conversations.

And don't tell me it's illegal to listen to them either, because in Canada
we have no laws concerning cellular bands.

"DougSlug" wrote in message
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"HotShot" wrote in message
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Why does everyone say there's nothing left to analog cellular.

I don't have cellular band in my radio, but I listen the odd time to them
using image frequencies. And let me tell you, on any given day, during
day time hours, those frequencies are going rampant with non-important
day to day seemless phone conversations.

And don't tell me it's illegal to listen to them either, because in
Canada we have no laws concerning cellular bands.

Not exactly-Section 184 of The Criminal Code of Canada states that anyone
found
guilty of intercepting cellular phone calls "maliciously or for gain"
can be sentenced to a maximum of five years in prison.

HotShot wrote:

Why does everyone say there's nothing left to analog cellular.

For germany this is simply a fact. The analog network had been
switched off a few years ago.





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Maliciously or for gain. Not for hobby purposes which means scanning a
bunch of frequencies and all of a sudden up pops a cellular frequency.

David L. Wilson wrote:


Not exactly-Section 184 of The Criminal Code of Canada states that anyone
found
guilty of intercepting cellular phone calls "maliciously or for gain"
can be sentenced to a maximum of five years in prison.

Well that just sucks now doesn't it.

What happens with everyone's cell phone that they bought years ago that
were analog? Are they not able to use them? Are they forced into
buying a digital cell phone?

Guess the phone companies get the last laugh in eh?

Ralph A. Schmid, DK5RAS wrote:
HotShot wrote:


Why does everyone say there's nothing left to analog cellular.


For germany this is simply a fact. The analog network had been
switched off a few years ago.





regards - Ralph

HotShot wrote:

Well that just sucks now doesn't it.

Not really, considering the very different german market.

What happens with everyone's cell phone that they bought years ago that
were analog? Are they not able to use them? Are they forced into
buying a digital cell phone?

Yes, but the analog system was running in parallel for eight years
with the digital systems, and those customers who waited for the
bitter end got a really good offer to change.

Guess the phone companies get the last laugh in eh?

No, I got the last laugh :-) They gave me a really top-end phone at
this time (the Nokia Communicator 9110i) just for free, together with
great conditions. The second great laugh, our company made real good
money in removing all the antennae and radio components throughout the
whole area.

One difference in Germany, the analog system was not designed for
handheld phones, it was mainly a system for car phone usage, and only
a few handheld were in use, suffering from bad coverage. So ging
digital was really an advantage.



regards - Ralph

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"Ralph A. Schmid, DK5RAS" wrote in
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"DougSlug" wrote:

Sometimes those additional (legally
monitorable) frequencies carry signals that some people want to monitor,
so they seek unblocked receivers to enable that. So it's not always for
reasons of illegal cell phone monitoring that unblocked models are
sought

For example, when I am a ham radio operator and want to have a
wideband scanner like the MVT9000 to monitor my own transmitted signal
if there are unwanted spurs in it, then a cellular blocked scanner
really would be annoying. Why buy a wideband scanner, when some parts
of the band are blocked?!

Is it illegal even for ham operators in the US to own a non-blocked
scanner?



regards - Ralph


Its not illegal in the U.S. to own a non-blocked scanner for anyone.
I have 4 of them myself.
Its illegal to sell them new, and its illegal to actually listen to cell
phone calls if you have one.
I can't say I do either, so I'm not worried about the law in the least.

Rico wrote:

Its not illegal in the U.S. to own a non-blocked scanner for anyone.
I have 4 of them myself.
Its illegal to sell them new, and its illegal to actually listen to cell
phone calls if you have one.
I can't say I do either, so I'm not worried about the law in the least.

Aah, OK, thank you very much for this information.



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