www.clarionledger.com (Local News) Next Stop,Grand Jury.

I reckon Harvey Johnson (he was the high Mayor of Jackson before Frank
''Atom Ant'' Melton) will soon be our high Mayor of Jackson again.Frank
''Atom Ant'' Melton got the right kind of people riled up around these
parts.
cuhulin

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www.clarionledger.com (Local News) Next Stop,Grand Jury.

I reckon Harvey Johnson (he was the high Mayor of Jackson before Frank
''Atom Ant'' Melton) will soon be our high Mayor of Jackson again.Frank
''Atom Ant'' Melton got the right kind of people riled up around these
parts.
cuhulin

Believe it or not, cuhulin, I'm not going to excoriate you or Chuck
Harder here.
Because I think (hope?) that Harder is hanging up his microphone -
finally!
Issues aside, let's recount Harder's take on three crucial topics: 1)
he is vehemently anti-Bush; 2) he is convinced that the end of the
world is coming; and 3) he believes that 2) is the direct result of the
machinations of 1) - (in Hugo Chavez's words) "el Diablo."
Any one of these three positions is a definite show-stopper in talk
radio these days. But Harder has all three!
No wonder you want to talk about Jackson, MS mayor Frank Melton. Don't
know the guy; never heard of him; I like my mayor, Shirley Franklin,
who last year presided over the lowest homicide rate in Atlanta - 90 -
since 1963. If my history serves, I think that was the year Harder
moved from Chicago down to Tampa, FL.
Back to Harder: I've noticed he's been saying things (paraphrased)
like, "Hey, people don't like me because I tell it like it is," or "You
know, I am not well liked by such-and-such these days." I admire his
candor. People like me do dislike him intensely. Why? Because -
ironically - he is so un-American.
Most Americans are not apocalyptic.
Most Americans do not think "Dubya" is the devil. They know they can
support him or go to someone else.
Most Americans do not believe that Uncle Sam is plotting the
destruction of the U.S. of A. Some voters might believe this or that
specific conspiracy theory (JFK, energy prices, Ritalyn, etc.) - but
they do not buy into the overarching "New World Order" global plotline
pushed by Harder and his myrmidons.
Europeans and Muslims may be more attuned to these ideas, but that's
just the way they are. I don't live in France or Germany or Iraq or
Iran or Jordan or Egypt, so this really doesn't bother me.
So when will Harder retire or go on to something else? Can't say. But
his last day on the air is one day closer than yesterday. Heard Ed
Shiflett a couple weeks ago on "For The People," and I must say, that
bloke sounded real good - a natural. Could he be Harder's replacement?
We'll see ...

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One more thing, cuhulin ...
What, as a Bush supporter, am I supposed to do when I hear Chuck Harder
refer to the guy I voted for - twice - as a "dictator," a "fascist,"
someone who "deliberately" emasculated the U.S., someone who "loves
illegals but hates the middle class"?

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I am amused that for someone who detests Harder so much, you spend so
much time listening to him. I listen to him ocasionally and have found
many of his guests to be well-informed. I also get the impression that
he is quite patriotic. However, I do not have enough listening time to
go further than that.
As a Canadian, I scrupulously avoid any comments on US politics (a)
because it is none of my business, and (b) I am uninformed. Also,
under the new anti-terrorism bills passed this week that have shredded
the Constitution ( rather like Hitler's Enabling Acts of 1933)...oops,
did I say that?, a secret ops hit team could come in to Canada, kidnap
a designated citizen, sprit him across the border to a US jail where he
could be held incommunicado for years or sent to a CIA-designated
torture center in a foreign land. Read the legislation: it's in there.
And it has been done already.
If "deliberately emasculating the US" could apply to the economic
status of the US, who was in charge when the US national debt rocketed
up in the trillions and the foreign trade deficit approached 700
billion a year and the value of the US dollar dropped 35%? Just asking.
As far as class structure is concerned, the middle class is
declining, workers' wages are stagnant, and the wealthy are making out
like bandits. I wouldn't say Bush hates the middle class though: I just
think he doesn't give a damn.
Considering the slander, name calling, and take-no-prisoners
attitude that passes for debate in the US these days, I think that
avoiding US politics is a good idea particularly since I don't have a
dog in this fight and I should go do something else until mid-November.

You sound intelligent, ve3, but your pathological anti-Bush attitude
("he doesn't give a damn," etc.) belies your veneer of intellectual
certitude.
No doubt you think I'm a Nazi because I support Bush. Surprise! I'm
Jewish!
Ah, what little you know of us American Bush supporters. You've been
fed the pabulum that we're all little goose-stepping Gestapo agents
("goose-stapos," if you wish to play with words).
If you were really, truly smart, you would form your own opinons about
Bush rather than parrot the virulent anti-Bush attitude of Chuck Harder
and others.
Stay in Canada, ve3. We don't want you down here.

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One more thing, cuhulin ...
What, as a Bush supporter, am I supposed to do when I hear Chuck Harder
refer to the guy I voted for - twice - as a "dictator," a "fascist,"
someone who "deliberately" emasculated the U.S., someone who "loves
illegals but hates the middle class"?
Huh?
What am I supposed to do, sir?

Probably believe him [Harder]. And his comments above only scratched the
surface of other things that could be said against Bush.

Please read (and comment on) ve3's thoughtful reply to your post. The
only thing I would disagree with is ve3's comment that:

As far as class structure is concerned, the middle class is
declining, workers' wages are stagnant,

Worker's wages are NOT "stagnant", they are DECLINING. The U.S. Census
Bureau published the statement a few weeks ago that stated the "Median
Household Income" has -decreased- since the year 2000.

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Stay in Canada, ve3. We don't want you down here.

That reminds me of the old slogan of the 30's "Come visit us before we
come visit you." My greatest concern is that plans for a North American
Alliance being developed in secret by the elite will get to the point
where Canada, the US, and Mexico will be combined a la European Union.
I think that a foreigner would be nuts to visit the US with these new
laws in place. One mistake and he could find himself on a rack in
Moldavia. So don't alarm yourseld: I ain't coming, although I wonder at
your Royal "we" ...does the State Department know about this? Or does
"we" mean that you have a tapeworm? Which outfit are you speaking for?
My opinion about George Bush is based on the economic performance of
the last six years, the invasion of Iraq, and the mass invasion of
Mexicans across the southern border. It has nothing to do with Harder.
I understand that millions of patriotic Americans support the Democrats
and have a similar opinion to mine.

www.devilfinder.com Canadians in Mississippi

I was born and raised in the Magnolia State,also known as the
Hospitality State.It's called MISSISSIPPI.
I am not going to tell any Canadians to stay out of MISSISSIPPI or
AMERICA.They are more than WELLCOME to Visit anywhere in AMERICA and
move to AMERICA if they so choose.

My beef is with fed govt's Illegal Aliens coming to AMERICA and
destroying AMERICA.devilfinder.com Amish in Mississippi
Amish people like Mississippi too and I like them.
www.visitmississippi.org
cuhulin

My greatest concern is that plans for a North American
Alliance being developed in secret by the elite will get to the point
where Canada, the US, and Mexico will be combined a la European Union.

Sigh ... there you go again, spouting conspiracy theories.
This whole SPP brohaha is just so much "michigoss" (Yiddish for
"crap"), so much so that the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has condemned
folks like Chuck Harder for spreading lies about SPP.
There is NO plan to create a "North American Union"; there is NO plan
to eliminate the U.S. dollar and replace it with the "Amero."
Just like those REAL knuckledraggers - the so-called "citizen militias"
of the mid-1990's - the adherents to the SPP conspiracy theory are
engaging in abject stupidity. Like the REAL Nazis, they will believe
everything that they hear.
I do not. I did not believe the Right when it severely criticized Bill
Clinton; I thought Clinton did a good job on things like crime, taxes,
the budget deficit, and yes, trade.
On foreign policy and terrorism, well ...
I'll say it right here, ve3: You are very, very stupid and ignorant.
So are you, cuhulin.
The mark of a Chuck Harder supporter!

Like the Bell South divorced woman told me a couple of days ago when I
stepped over there to hand her their snail mail,,, Opinions are like
as.holes and everybody has one.

Before you ask,Why do I step over and get their snail mail after I get
my snail mail from our snail mail boxes by the side of the road? Because
I once saw a democrat (if y'all know what I mean) kid walking up the
street and he put his hand on her snail mail box.I jumped on my phone
and I called her in Natchez,Mississippi and I told her all about it.I
asked her if she wanted me to pick up their snail mail and hold it
untill they get back.She said,I would appreciate it if you would.

Now,You start squaking and you go hollering to barney frank.By the
way,there is a guy who had to retire out of the U.S.Army because of
diabetes.He used to live in the same house house next door to me.I used
to pick up his snail mail too because he had to get a major heart
operation a few years ago and he wound up living in the Veterans Home a
mile and a half North of me.I used to take his snail mail to his brother
in laws home six miles South of me because his brother in law and his
sister handle his snail mail thingys for him.
cuhulin

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My greatest concern is that plans for a North American
Alliance being developed in secret by the elite will get to the point
where Canada, the US, and Mexico will be combined a la European Union.

Sigh ... there you go again, spouting conspiracy theories.
This whole SPP brohaha is just so much "michigoss" (Yiddish for
"crap"), so much so that the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has condemned
folks like Chuck Harder for spreading lies about SPP.
There is NO plan to create a "North American Union"; there is NO plan
to eliminate the U.S. dollar and replace it with the "Amero."
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I realize that the controlled press in the US makes no mention of the
NAU or the Bilderburgers or the CFR , but they have had meetings in
Toronto, Ottawa, and Banff that have been well covered in the Canadian
press. The recent one in Ottawa featured shouting matches between US
and European members about the US plan to invade Iran. I must tell them
at their next meeting in Canada that they do not exist. Are you a paid
agent of the ADL or the Southern Poverty Law Center tasked with
harassing Chuck Harder? Why else would you spend so much time listening
to someone you detest? Why would you revive this old thread? It was
interesting to fid out, however, that the ADL is against free speech..
And why do you ignore the facts and ideas I put forward in previus post
in favour of some new straw man?

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Like the Bell South divorced woman told me a couple of days ago when I
stepped over there to hand her their snail mail,,, Opinions are like
as.holes and everybody has one.

Please note that I have never called you stupid and ignorant. That was
some other weasel.