Uh, what happened boys? Not enough people wanting to join your little
fraternity? Worried that with nobody joining you SHAMS the government may
give the airwaves to their rightful owners - the American people? Worried
that SHAM radio will become like CB radio?

We know what happened. You arrogant engineers are getting fewer and
fewer in number. Not enough new arrogant engineers to take your place. So
you had to lower your qualifications just a little. Still, you wont let the
scummy CB people in will you?

lol. Keep dreaming people. Maybe at one time you did something that
was kind of interesting. Not anymore. Not by a long shot. When you're
typical conversation is all about "What RIG you running?" and "What YOGI you
running?" you have to figure nobody, not even the most lonely nerd, would
want to mess around with you guys.

On 18 Dec 2006 06:02:10 -0800, wrote:


Von Fourche wrote:
Uh, what happened boys? Not enough people wanting to join your little
fraternity? Worried that with nobody joining you SHAMS the government may
give the airwaves to their rightful owners - the American people? Worried
that SHAM radio will become like CB radio?

We know what happened. You arrogant engineers are getting fewer and
fewer in number. Not enough new arrogant engineers to take your place.

Can you find code these days outside the ham band? Does the U.S. Army
Signal Corps have any use for code in 2006? Is there a wire telegraph
system anywhere in the world which uses some version or other of Morse
Code?

Every technology has its day and is gone. No one in the first world
makes wool like the Romans today (thank God - urine was an important
part of the process) or wories about using precisely designed
catapaults to knock down castle walls. (outside a special on PBS or
the History Channel)

Maybe there should be a bunch of technological options for a General
ham license of which one should be Morse. The ability to build a good
transmitter should be another.

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Tester wrote:
On 18 Dec 2006 06:02:10 -0800, wrote:


Von Fourche wrote:
Uh, what happened boys? Not enough people wanting to join your little
fraternity? Worried that with nobody joining you SHAMS the government may
give the airwaves to their rightful owners - the American people? Worried
that SHAM radio will become like CB radio?

We know what happened. You arrogant engineers are getting fewer and
fewer in number. Not enough new arrogant engineers to take your place.

Can you find code these days outside the ham band? Does the U.S. Army
Signal Corps have any use for code in 2006? Is there a wire telegraph
system anywhere in the world which uses some version or other of Morse
Code?


Nope. The military abandoned it in the 1980's. Maritime services have
dropped it and professional emergency responders all use something more
up to date.


Every technology has its day and is gone. No one in the first world
makes wool like the Romans today (thank God - urine was an important
part of the process) or wories about using precisely designed
catapaults to knock down castle walls. (outside a special on PBS or
the History Channel)

Maybe there should be a bunch of technological options for a General
ham license of which one should be Morse.

It would serve as much purpose as testing a prospective ham for his
proficiency in operating a spark-gap transmitter. Or to use an
automotive analogy to require prospective drivers to be proficient with
a horse and buggy.



The ability to build a good
transmitter should be another.

The days of hams building a shack from scratch are long over.
Requiring the construction of a transmitter would not provide any
useful information about the suitability of that ham to operate on the
ham bands. I think that requiring a ham to demonstrate both that he
could assemble the components of a station in a safe manner and could
operate using voice in a concise and courteous manner would provide the
most useful information. Couple the operating competency test with a
written one that tests for knowlege of radio theory and the result
could be the first meaningful ham radio exam in over half a century.




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wrote:
Von Fourche wrote:
Uh, what happened boys? Not enough people wanting to join your little

So
you had to lower your qualifications just a little. Still, you wont let the
scummy CB people in will you?

I don't think anyone other than you is confusing CB with ham
operations.


honestly a lot of the Code tested ProCode are doing a lot of that sort
of comaprision these days and in such terms as to make one wonder if
they are refering to same silce of spectra I listen and use somewhat
kb9rqz (soon/ae

Can you find code these days outside the ham band? Does the U.S. Army
Signal Corps have any use for code in 2006? Is there a wire telegraph
system anywhere in the world which uses some version or other of Morse
Code?
As a matter of fact, you can:
http://www.radio-electronics.com/inf...morse-code.php
"The main area in which Morse is used today is for radio transmissions.
While the requirement for ships at sea to be able to send Morse code
distress signals ended on 31st January 1999, many other still use Morse.
Some ships still use it as a cheaper option than the satellite
communications systems that are in general use now. Also some armed
forces still use it as a last ditch form of communications."

http://www.astrosol.ch/networksofthe...rks/index.html

http://www.recruiting.forces.gc.ca/v...?id=277&bhcp=1
"Communicate inter-ship by ship/shore radio teletype, ship/shore
satellite, voice and radio teletype, video conferencing, chat,
facsimile, email, tactical international and administrative voice radio,
flashing light (Morse code), flag signalling and semaphore"

http://www.navy.forces.gc.ca/marpac/...s_e.asp?id=240
"* Integral units include:all Canadian warships stationed on the West
Coast; one of the Navy's three Fleet Schools, where sailors learn about
everything from Morse code to high-tech weapon systems; the Naval
Officer Training Centre, known as "Venture," where all naval officers
receive their initial training; and the west coast Fleet Diving Unit,
which, along with a range of services to the Fleet, provides explosives
disposal and diving services to local police forces."

http://www.goarmy.com/JobDetail.do?id=174
"TRAINING

Job training for a Signals Intelligence Analyst requires 9 weeks of
Basic Training, where you learn basic Soldiering skills. Then you will
attend Advanced Individual Training that consists of 18 weeks of
classroom training, including practice in operating radio equipment.
Some of the skills you'll learn a

* Use of specialized radio receivers
* Security operations
* Morse code
\
\http://www.goarmy.com/JobDetail.do?id=174
"RADIOMAN (RM)

School Code No. 30

SELECTION QUALIFICATIONS

MINIMUM TEST SCORES: GCT 50; SPELL 50; CLER 50; RADIO* 55.

PHYSICAL: Hearing in each ear must be 15/15 by whispered voice. Ears
free from disease. Manual dexterity.

PERSONAL: No older than 28, unless experienced in code reception.

MISCELLANEOUS: Hobby as "Ham Operator," if code work included. Knowledge
of typing desirable. H.S. experience desirable.

JOB DESCRIPTION

DUTIES: Sends and receives encrypted (codes and ciphers) and
plain-language messages by radio. Receives messages in Morse code
through earphones and records them by typewriter. Transmits with a
telegraph key or microphone. May be required to make simple emergency
repairs to receivers and transmitters. Must be familiar with the parts
of Naval messages, including abbreviations and shortcuts (prosines,
etc.); keeps a radio log. Stands watch in radio "shack".

EQUIPMENT USED: Radio telegraph, radio telephone, direction finder,
typewriter. Radio repair tools, electrician's tools, testing meters.

TYPES OF BILLETS: All ships; radio stations ashore.
I could easily find many many more

On 2006-12-18 00:00:32 -0500, "Von Fourche" said:



Uh, what happened boys? Not enough people wanting to join your
little fraternity? Worried that with nobody joining you SHAMS the
government may give the airwaves to their rightful owners - the
American people? Worried that SHAM radio will become like CB radio?

We know what happened. You arrogant engineers are getting fewer
and fewer in number. Not enough new arrogant engineers to take your
place. So you had to lower your qualifications just a little. Still,
you wont let the scummy CB people in will you?

lol. Keep dreaming people. Maybe at one time you did something
that was kind of interesting. Not anymore. Not by a long shot. When
you're typical conversation is all about "What RIG you running?" and
"What YOGI you running?" you have to figure nobody, not even the most
lonely nerd, would want to mess around with you guys.


Couldn't pass a ham test huh?