It looks like the Eton E1 (minus XM satellite radio capability, it
would seem) is to be rebadged as the Grundig G1.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2001.html

Not available until late 2007.

The selling price on this set could potentially prove more attractive
than that of the $500 E1XM: The G1's list price is $500 on
Universal's website, as opposed to the $700 list price of the E1
(which Universal and other outlets regularly sell at 499.95).

RadioIntel has some pictures of the G1, taken at CES 2007.

http://www.radiointel.com/ces2007.htm


junius

On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, "junius" wrote:
It looks like the Eton E1 (minus XM satellite radio capability, it
would seem) is to be rebadged as the Grundig G1.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2001.html

Not available until late 2007.

The selling price on this set could potentially prove more attractive
than that of the $500 E1XM: The G1's list price is $500 on
Universal's website, as opposed to the $700 list price of the E1
(which Universal and other outlets regularly sell at 499.95).

RadioIntel has some pictures of the G1, taken at CES 2007.

http://www.radiointel.com/ces2007.htm

junius

Anyone know why they're slapping the Grundig name on it? Is this just
a sales ploy? It's great that they're stripping off the XM.

On Feb 15, 1:21 pm, "Steve" wrote:
On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, "junius" wrote:





It looks like the Eton E1 (minus XM satellite radio capability, it
would seem) is to be rebadged as the Grundig G1.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2001.html

Not available until late 2007.

The selling price on this set could potentially prove more attractive
than that of the $500 E1XM: The G1's list price is $500 on
Universal's website, as opposed to the $700 list price of the E1
(which Universal and other outlets regularly sell at 499.95).

RadioIntel has some pictures of the G1, taken at CES 2007.

http://www.radiointel.com/ces2007.htm

junius

Anyone know why they're slapping the Grundig name on it? Is this just
a sales ploy?

Sales ploy??? All marketing decisions are ploys to make sales.

It's great that they're stripping off the XM.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

One possibility is that Eton will announce that the E1 is "upgraded"
and sold with XM installed for the north america market and the G1
will be sold as the shortwave radio. The other possibility is Eton
removes some features beyoind the XM plug from the E1 to make a
stripped down G1.

Given their tendency to announce but not deliver it's best to think of
the G1 as vaportronics until a working radio is available for sale.

On Feb 15, 4:21�pm, "Steve" wrote:
On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, "junius" wrote:





It looks like the Eton E1 (minus XM satellite radio capability, it
would seem) is to be rebadged as the Grundig G1.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2001.html

Not available until late 2007.

The selling price on this set could potentially prove more attractive
than that of the $500 E1XM: *The G1's list price is $500 on
Universal's website, as opposed to the $700 list price of the E1
(which Universal and other outlets regularly sell at 499.95).

RadioIntel has some pictures of the G1, taken at CES 2007.

http://www.radiointel.com/ces2007.htm

junius

Anyone know why they're slapping the Grundig name on it? Is this just
a sales ploy? It's great that they're stripping off the XM.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You, same cheap crap, as the Eaton **** E1 - made in China, not
Germany, anymore.

On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, "junius" wrote:
It looks like the Eton E1 (minus XM satellite radio capability, it
would seem) is to be rebadged as the Grundig G1.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2001.html

Not available until late 2007.

The selling price on this set could potentially prove more attractive
than that of the $500 E1XM: The G1's list price is $500 on
Universal's website, as opposed to the $700 list price of the E1
(which Universal and other outlets regularly sell at 499.95).

RadioIntel has some pictures of the G1, taken at CES 2007.

http://www.radiointel.com/ces2007.htm

junius

Dear Junius,

This is strictly conjecture on my part - I believe the "Etón" name has
no cachet whatsoever as a radio brand (as opposed to a company brand)
and perhaps they want to see which name sells best. Personally, I
should hope for the return of the Grundig name but the quality has to
be there or else that name too will lose whatever credibility it
possesses. By eliminating XM capability (something I, as well as many
others, do not want on such a radio), the manufacturing cost should be
less and I hope that the selling price will be less, too. A "street
price" of $399.00 would be good IF Etón can manufacture a high-quality
set without the problems that have plagued the E1.

We shall see.

Best,

Joe

P.S. On Etón's web site, the price is listed as $500.00, the same as
the E1. By the way, has anyone beside me noticed the "typo" in Etóns'
ads in POPULAR COMMUNICATIONS and MONITORING TIMES where the price for
the Grundig G5 is listed at $50.00 instead of $150.00? If only it were
true ...

On Feb 15, 1:21 pm, "Steve" wrote:
On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, "junius" wrote:





It looks like the Eton E1 (minus XM satellite radio capability, it
would seem) is to be rebadged as the Grundig G1.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2001.html

Not available until late 2007.

The selling price on this set could potentially prove more attractive
than that of the $500 E1XM: The G1's list price is $500 on
Universal's website, as opposed to the $700 list price of the E1
(which Universal and other outlets regularly sell at 499.95).

RadioIntel has some pictures of the G1, taken at CES 2007.

http://www.radiointel.com/ces2007.htm

junius

Anyone know why they're slapping the Grundig name on it? Is this just
a sales ploy? It's great that they're stripping off the XM.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No idea why they're developing this habit of dual branding of various
radio models sold in the US market (e.g. also the case with the E5 /
G5).

In Germany, the non-XM-capable E1 is sold under the Lextronix name
(http://www.thiecom.de/shop1/index.html?
target=WeltempfaengerLextronix.html); but that's another story
altogether.

On Feb 15, 3:43 pm, wrote:
On Feb 15, 4:21?pm, "Steve" wrote:





On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, "junius" wrote:

It looks like the Eton E1 (minus XM satellite radio capability, it
would seem) is to be rebadged as the Grundig G1.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2001.html

Not available until late 2007.

The selling price on this set could potentially prove more attractive
than that of the $500 E1XM: ?The G1's list price is $500 on
Universal's website, as opposed to the $700 list price of the E1
(which Universal and other outlets regularly sell at 499.95).

RadioIntel has some pictures of the G1, taken at CES 2007.

http://www.radiointel.com/ces2007.htm

junius

Anyone know why they're slapping the Grundig name on it? Is this just
a sales ploy? It's great that they're stripping off the XM.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You, same cheap crap, as the Eaton **** E1 - made in China, not
Germany, anymore.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Made in India, actually. But we've gone through this more than once in
this group. Bharat Electronics Ltd (BEL) puts the E1 together. BEL,
as in the Indian public sector defense firm.

http://www.asdsource.com/source_deta...ited_-_BEL.htm

http://defensenews.com/index.php?S=06top100

So, buy your E1/G1 and contribute to the profit that BEL turns over to
the Gov't of India (and yes, BEL regularly turns over a profit to the
GOI).

http://pib.nic.in/release/rel_print_...sp?relid=21377

But, true, the Eton/Grundig/Lextronix E1/G1 is not made in Germany.
Nor is it made in Portugal, as the Grundig Satellits 400, 500, 650,
700 were.

By the way, can anyone in this group tell us which was the last
shortwave radio that Grundig mass produced from production facilities
in Germany?

On Feb 15, 4:22 pm, "Joe Analssandrini"
wrote:
On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, "junius" wrote:





It looks like the Eton E1 (minus XM satellite radio capability, it
would seem) is to be rebadged as the Grundig G1.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2001.html

Not available until late 2007.

The selling price on this set could potentially prove more attractive
than that of the $500 E1XM: The G1's list price is $500 on
Universal's website, as opposed to the $700 list price of the E1
(which Universal and other outlets regularly sell at 499.95).

RadioIntel has some pictures of the G1, taken at CES 2007.

http://www.radiointel.com/ces2007.htm

junius

Dear Junius,

This is strictly conjecture on my part - I believe the "Etón" name has
no cachet whatsoever as a radio brand (as opposed to a company brand)
and perhaps they want to see which name sells best. Personally, I
should hope for the return of the Grundig name but the quality has to
be there or else that name too will lose whatever credibility it
possesses. By eliminating XM capability (something I, as well as many
others, do not want on such a radio), the manufacturing cost should be
less and I hope that the selling price will be less, too. A "street
price" of $399.00 would be good IF Etón can manufacture a high-quality
set without the problems that have plagued the E1.

We shall see.

Best,

Joe

P.S. On Etón's web site, the price is listed as $500.00, the same as
the E1. By the way, has anyone beside me noticed the "typo" in Etóns'
ads in POPULAR COMMUNICATIONS and MONITORING TIMES where the price for
the Grundig G5 is listed at $50.00 instead of $150.00? If only it were
true ...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hello Joe,

Right you are on the Eton website pricing. It could be that the G1
offers nothing but the Grundig name and the lack of XM...all for the
same $500 price!
It's interesting that on Universal's website, the E5 and the G5 are
both priced at $149.95, yet the Eton E5 comes with a free Grundig
FR200 radio, whereas there's no such bonus with the G5! I suppose
either way, you get the Grundig name; it's just a matter of whether
you want it on the re-cabinet-ed Degen set or on the wind-up
"emergency" radio...

In any case, I personally feel that the "problems that have plagued
the E1" are a bit over-hyped. Admittedly, the recall issue was
something of a disaster for public perception of this product. But
issues with the E1 are by no means in the realm of those that plagued
the Satellit 800 (a radio which, incidentally, I find to be one of the
most pleasant to listen to shortwave radios of all the sets I've
owned).

On the whole, however, the E1 is a stellar performer, particularly
when compared with other portable shortwave receivers (for $500,
though, one should expect that, right?). The +/- 0.04 or 0.05 kHz
drift issue is really the only issue that folks seemed to have
regularly noted with this set, from what I've seen. And really this
is a pretty minor issue for most listeners. In fact, as I recall, Guy
Atkins once posted a message in this group as to how to resolve this
frequency offset issue. Also, as I recall, the E1 received some pretty
decent praise from Mr. Atkins, who got some pretty impressive results
using his E1 on one of his DXpeditions up there in Washington state.
Indeed, I find the E1 ideal for these sorts of DXing excursions, where
you want something with a fuller range of features than your average
portable, but when you don't feel like lugging about a heavy DC power
supply to power up a tabletop.

To each his/her own, though. I realize that there are gripes on the
price of the E1; and I'd like to see it come down, myself. Admittedly,
I certainly didn't pay full retail for mine; I picked it up with one
of the Sharper Image's 20% off discounts (and that's a pretty decent
discount on a $500 radio, even if you do have to pay SI's outrageous S/
H fees!).

As for what the story is on the G1, it's as you said, Joe: we shall
see...

All the best,

Junius

On Feb 16, 12:44�am, "junius" wrote:
On Feb 15, 4:22 pm, "Joe Analssandrini"
wrote:





On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, "junius" wrote:

It looks like the Eton E1 (minus XM satellite radio capability, it
would seem) is to be rebadged as the Grundig G1.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2001.html

Not available until late 2007.

The selling price on this set could potentially prove more attractive
than that of the $500 E1XM: *The G1's list price is $500 on
Universal's website, as opposed to the $700 list price of the E1
(which Universal and other outlets regularly sell at 499.95).

RadioIntel has some pictures of the G1, taken at CES 2007.

http://www.radiointel.com/ces2007.htm

junius

Dear Junius,

This is strictly conjecture on my part - I believe the "Etón" name has
no cachet whatsoever as a radio brand (as opposed to a company brand)
and perhaps they want to see which name sells best. Personally, I
should hope for the return of the Grundig name but the quality has to
be there or else that name too will lose whatever credibility it
possesses. By eliminating XM capability (something I, as well as many
others, do not want on such a radio), the manufacturing cost should be
less and I hope that the selling price will be less, too. A "street
price" of $399.00 would be good IF Etón can manufacture a high-quality
set without the problems that have plagued the E1.

We shall see.

Best,

Joe

P.S. On Etón's web site, the price is listed as $500.00, the same as
the E1. By the way, has anyone beside me noticed the "typo" in Etóns'
ads in POPULAR COMMUNICATIONS and MONITORING TIMES where the price for
the Grundig G5 is listed at $50.00 instead of $150.00? If only it were
true ...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hello Joe,

Right you are on the Eton website pricing. *It could be that the G1
offers nothing but the Grundig name and the lack of XM...all for the
same $500 price!
It's interesting that on Universal's website, the E5 and the G5 are
both priced at $149.95, yet the Eton E5 comes with a free Grundig
FR200 radio, whereas there's no such bonus with the G5! I suppose
either way, you get the Grundig name; it's just a matter of whether
you want it on the re-cabinet-ed Degen set or on the wind-up
"emergency" radio...

In any case, I personally feel that the "problems that have plagued
the E1" are a bit over-hyped. *Admittedly, the recall issue was
something of a disaster for public perception of this product. But
issues with the E1 are by no means in the realm of those that plagued
the Satellit 800 (a radio which, incidentally, I find to be one of the
most pleasant to listen to shortwave radios of all the sets I've
owned).

On the whole, however, the E1 is a stellar performer, particularly
when compared with other portable shortwave receivers (for $500,
though, one should expect that, right?). The +/- 0.04 or 0.05 kHz
drift issue is really the only issue that folks seemed to have
regularly noted with this set, from what I've seen. *And really this
is a pretty minor issue for most listeners. In fact, as I recall, Guy
Atkins once posted a message in this group as to how to resolve this
frequency offset issue. Also, as I recall, the E1 received some pretty
decent praise from Mr. Atkins, who got some pretty impressive results
using his E1 on one of his DXpeditions up there in Washington state.
Indeed, I find the E1 ideal for these sorts of DXing excursions, where
you want something with a fuller range of features than your average
portable, but when you don't feel like lugging about a heavy DC power
supply to power up a tabletop.

To each his/her own, though. *I realize that there are gripes on the
price of the E1; and I'd like to see it come down, myself. Admittedly,
I certainly didn't pay full retail for mine; I picked it up with one
of the Sharper Image's 20% off discounts (and that's a pretty decent
discount on a $500 radio, even if you do have to pay SI's outrageous S/
H fees!).

As for what the story is on the G1, it's as you said, Joe: *we shall
see...

All the best,

Junius- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Duck - the batteries blow up, when used with the AC adaptor - Chinese-
made junk !

So, buy your E1/G1 and contribute to the profit that BEL turns over to
the Gov't of India (and yes, BEL regularly turns over a profit to the
GOI).

You are aware that US firms turn over a portion of their profit to the US
Government, right?