On Feb 24, 8:16 am, "Roadie" wrote:
On Feb 23, 11:41 pm, "RHF" wrote:





On Feb 23, 3:45 pm, "Roadie" wrote:

On Feb 22, 3:40 am, "RHF" wrote:

R A N T

Why the H*ll Don't the Spanish Language Radio and TV Stations
have English on the SAP Channel ?

i want to know ~ RHF
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Since english language programming dominates the broadcast bands,
please tell us specifically which programming you would like carried
as a subcarrier that is not carried elsewhere. Maybe SSL classes?

El Caminolito,

1 - While English Language Programming does 'dominate'
TV in many areas : In some areas Spanish Language
Programming is the 'most-watched'. It is in these areas
that Spanish Language Broadcaster should use the SAP
Channel and provide an English Language simulcast of
the programming.

There is no demonstrable demand for english language versions of
hispanic, chinese and russian programming. None. Most cable systems
have on their basic service over 100 channels of english language
programming avaiable now and over 500 channels for those with a lot of
time on their hands. Why spend the money on such programming where
there is no demand.





2 - Every Spanish Language Program that is Broadcasted
should be on the SAp in English. But the process could
be 'Phased-in-Over-Time" :
First - The Prime-Time Family Hours 7-10 PM
- - - Especially the Telenovelas {Novelas}
NOVELAS =http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telenovela
WORLD TV =http://www.telenovelas.gr/worldtv/english.htm
Example the Spanish Language "Betty La Fea" has
become the English Language "Ugly Betty"
Second - All the News and Information Shows
Third - All Children's Programming
Fourth - All Daytime Programming : Talk Shows,
Game Shows, ETC.
Fifth - All Movies especially the American Movies which
were originally in English an already have an English
Language Sound Track. (What Could Be Easier !)

3 - "SSL" - ¡ Claro Sí !
SSL = Spanish as a Second Language (SSL) Classes

It's about Greater Programming Diversity {Leading to
Cultural Understanding} and Equal Access to all forms
of Broadcast Media for English-Only-Speakers in Areas
where they are in-fact a Minority to assure that they
are not being marginalized because of their Limitations
from 'only' being able to Speak a single Language.
{Human Rights For All - Including English-Only-Speakers}

It's About Fairness and Equality For All Peoples . . .

¡ Entiendes Mendez ! ¿O Te Explico Federico? .

i know - it's better that i should learn spanish ~ El RHF Olé !
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Roadie - You clearly must be a 'mini' "DE" in training.

Over-and-Over-Again I will re-post myself :

IT"S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY {COST} :
ITS ABOUT FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY BETWEEN ALL PEOPLES :
Asian-Americans; Hispanic-Americans; African-Americans
and yes even European-Americans.

sap it to me, Sap It To Me. SAP IT TO ME ! ~ RHF
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On Feb 24, 10:27 pm, "RHF" wrote:
On Feb 24, 8:16 am, "Roadie" wrote:





On Feb 23, 11:41 pm, "RHF" wrote:

On Feb 23, 3:45 pm, "Roadie" wrote:

On Feb 22, 3:40 am, "RHF" wrote:

R A N T

Why the H*ll Don't the Spanish Language Radio and TV Stations
have English on the SAP Channel ?

i want to know ~ RHF
.
.
. .

Since english language programming dominates the broadcast bands,
please tell us specifically which programming you would like carried
as a subcarrier that is not carried elsewhere. Maybe SSL classes?

El Caminolito,

1 - While English Language Programming does 'dominate'
TV in many areas : In some areas Spanish Language
Programming is the 'most-watched'. It is in these areas
that Spanish Language Broadcaster should use the SAP
Channel and provide an English Language simulcast of
the programming.

There is no demonstrable demand for english language versions of
hispanic, chinese and russian programming. None. Most cable systems
have on their basic service over 100 channels of english language
programming avaiable now and over 500 channels for those with a lot of
time on their hands. Why spend the money on such programming where
there is no demand.

2 - Every Spanish Language Program that is Broadcasted
should be on the SAp in English. But the process could
be 'Phased-in-Over-Time" :
First - The Prime-Time Family Hours 7-10 PM
- - - Especially the Telenovelas {Novelas}
NOVELAS =http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telenovela
WORLD TV =http://www.telenovelas.gr/worldtv/english.htm
Example the Spanish Language "Betty La Fea" has
become the English Language "Ugly Betty"
Second - All the News and Information Shows
Third - All Children's Programming
Fourth - All Daytime Programming : Talk Shows,
Game Shows, ETC.
Fifth - All Movies especially the American Movies which
were originally in English an already have an English
Language Sound Track. (What Could Be Easier !)

3 - "SSL" - ¡ Claro Sí !
SSL = Spanish as a Second Language (SSL) Classes

It's about Greater Programming Diversity {Leading to
Cultural Understanding} and Equal Access to all forms
of Broadcast Media for English-Only-Speakers in Areas
where they are in-fact a Minority to assure that they
are not being marginalized because of their Limitations
from 'only' being able to Speak a single Language.
{Human Rights For All - Including English-Only-Speakers}

It's About Fairness and Equality For All Peoples . . .

¡ Entiendes Mendez ! ¿O Te Explico Federico? .

i know - it's better that i should learn spanish ~ El RHF Olé !
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Roadie - You clearly must be a 'mini' "DE" in training.

Over-and-Over-Again I will re-post myself :

IT"S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY {COST} :
ITS ABOUT FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY BETWEEN ALL PEOPLES :
Asian-Americans; Hispanic-Americans; African-Americans
and yes even European-Americans.

sap it to me, Sap It To Me. SAP IT TO ME ! ~ RHF
.


Now I understand. Some language services for which there is no demand
should be provided to give you a false sense of equality and
balance. Yours is an inherently unfair proposal though, because you
are omitting many many equally valid two-way translations.

We should provide:
Uzbek to Spanish and vice versa.
Slovak to Cambodian and vice versa.
Farsi to Wu and vice versa.
Lithuanian to Hawaiian and vice versa.
Qawiaraq to Yoruba and vice versa
etc.

Indeed why don't you busy yourself this slow sunday by figuring out
how many two language translation permutations there are. Then figure
out who will pay for it all.

Once you have finished then consider why it is often important to
limit our choices to the ones that will result in some value.

On Feb 25, 9:03 am, "Roadie" wrote:
On Feb 24, 10:27 pm, "RHF" wrote:





On Feb 24, 8:16 am, "Roadie" wrote:

On Feb 23, 11:41 pm, "RHF" wrote:

On Feb 23, 3:45 pm, "Roadie" wrote:

On Feb 22, 3:40 am, "RHF" wrote:

R A N T

Why the H*ll Don't the Spanish Language Radio and TV Stations
have English on the SAP Channel ?

i want to know ~ RHF
.
.
. .

Since english language programming dominates the broadcast bands,
please tell us specifically which programming you would like carried
as a subcarrier that is not carried elsewhere. Maybe SSL classes?

El Caminolito,

1 - While English Language Programming does 'dominate'
TV in many areas : In some areas Spanish Language
Programming is the 'most-watched'. It is in these areas
that Spanish Language Broadcaster should use the SAP
Channel and provide an English Language simulcast of
the programming.

There is no demonstrable demand for english language versions of
hispanic, chinese and russian programming. None. Most cable systems
have on their basic service over 100 channels of english language
programming avaiable now and over 500 channels for those with a lot of
time on their hands. Why spend the money on such programming where
there is no demand.

2 - Every Spanish Language Program that is Broadcasted
should be on the SAp in English. But the process could
be 'Phased-in-Over-Time" :
First - The Prime-Time Family Hours 7-10 PM
- - - Especially the Telenovelas {Novelas}
NOVELAS =http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telenovela
WORLD TV =http://www.telenovelas.gr/worldtv/english.htm
Example the Spanish Language "Betty La Fea" has
become the English Language "Ugly Betty"
Second - All the News and Information Shows
Third - All Children's Programming
Fourth - All Daytime Programming : Talk Shows,
Game Shows, ETC.
Fifth - All Movies especially the American Movies which
were originally in English an already have an English
Language Sound Track. (What Could Be Easier !)

3 - "SSL" - ¡ Claro Sí !
SSL = Spanish as a Second Language (SSL) Classes

It's about Greater Programming Diversity {Leading to
Cultural Understanding} and Equal Access to all forms
of Broadcast Media for English-Only-Speakers in Areas
where they are in-fact a Minority to assure that they
are not being marginalized because of their Limitations
from 'only' being able to Speak a single Language.
{Human Rights For All - Including English-Only-Speakers}

It's About Fairness and Equality For All Peoples . . .

¡ Entiendes Mendez ! ¿O Te Explico Federico? .

i know - it's better that i should learn spanish ~ El RHF Olé !
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Roadie - You clearly must be a 'mini' "DE" in training.

Over-and-Over-Again I will re-post myself :

IT"S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY {COST} :
ITS ABOUT FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY BETWEEN ALL PEOPLES :
Asian-Americans; Hispanic-Americans; African-Americans
and yes even European-Americans.

sap it to me, Sap It To Me. SAP IT TO ME ! ~ RHF
.

Now I understand. Some language services for which there is no demand
should be provided to give you a false sense of equality and
balance. Yours is an inherently unfair proposal though, because you
are omitting many many equally valid two-way translations.

We should provide:
Uzbek to Spanish and vice versa.
Slovak to Cambodian and vice versa.
Farsi to Wu and vice versa.
Lithuanian to Hawaiian and vice versa.
Qawiaraq to Yoruba and vice versa
etc.

Indeed why don't you busy yourself this slow sunday by figuring out
how many two language translation permutations there are. Then figure
out who will pay for it all.

Once you have finished then consider why it is often important to
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El Caminolito {Roadie}
- - - my, My. MY ! Don't You Get Excited.

As one of my old Mentors {Sensei} "VQ" an All American
Winchester Model 94 carrying Yodeling Chinaman who was
truly a Man-of-Two-Worlds {Chinese born in America and
a very Conservative Christian.} would often say :
"Let Every Day Be A Holiday ! -and- Let Every Meal Be A Feast !"
{Translation : Rejoice in this Day that the Load has given
-and- Be Thankful for the Bounty the God has Provided.}

FYI - This whole posting on my part has been for me an
Exercise in the {Politically Correct} Absurd.

WHAT IF "THE SHOE WAS ON THE OTHER FOOT ?"

Generally the 5% Threshold is the point where : The
Euro-American {White} "The Majority" of Americans
MUST start providing any other so called Minority
Group "Equal Access" to various things in our Society
in their own Written and Spoken Language so that they
can be treated Fairly and Equally -Or- At least give the
appearance of Fair and Equal Treatment and Access.
- - - So when Euro-Americans {Whites} are no longer
"The Majority" in an Area should not the same Rules
Apply . . . Of Course NOT !

As to all the 'other' Minority Groups that you listed
in your post =IF= They are more than 5% of the
population in any area of the USofA : Then IMHO
they should be given Equal Access via the SAP
Channels on the TV and Multi-Casting on DTV to
Programming Content in their own Language :
After all it is only Fair and Equitable.

The Reply That : "It Would Cost Too Much"
has never stopped the Courts in Prescribing
Remedies to Correct In-Equalities to Protect
the Rights of a Minority.


fairness and equality is after all 'good business' ~ RHF
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Meaningful Education : Transforming Useful Information
into Practical Knowledge for Everyday Life ~ RHF {ibid}
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On Feb 25, 3:48 pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
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- I used to like to watch some of the variety and comedy
- shows on Univision.
- But I did my own translation... I learned Spanish.
- It's not so tough, really.
-

BAD,

That is like telling any Minority including many newly arrived
Spanish-Only-Speakers when they come to the USofA :
YOU SHOULD LEARN TO SPEAK [WRITE] ENGLISH !
-tic- Which is Inherently Un-Fair, Un-Just and Just Not Right.

We have the Technology {SAP} to make things : Fair, Just
and Yes Right; plus we have the resources to get the job done.
So... why don't we : Just Do It !

FWIW - Yes there are many programs on the Spanish
Language Radio and TV Stations that could {would} be
of Interest to Me -if- I just knew the Language and could
understand them. And SAP solves that problem for me
and everyone else who is Limited {Handicapped} by
being an English-Only-Speaker.

For Example : Often there is an American Made English
Language Movies being Broadcasted {shown} on a
Spanish Language TV Station in Spanish {i.e. - Rambo}
and what is on the other TV Stations is not what I want
to Watch {Listen To} -but- I would Watch {Listen To}
"Rambo" on the Spanish Language TV Station -if- the
SAP Channel has the original English Language Sound
Track for me to hear and enjoy the Movie.

? Cost ? - No Translation Cost at All since the original
Movie Sound Track was already in the English Language.

-SAP- for the Spanish TV Broadcasters is a Second
Market which would Double the Potential Number of TV
Watchers for many Programs with Cross-Over-Appeal
to the Euro-American Market. The 'expanded' Market
Demographics for both Spanish and English Languages
should "Sell" the SAP to most Sponsors. Resulting in
Increased Ad Sales and Revenue for the Spanish TV
Stations. With the new Digital TV and Mutli-Casting
and AM & FM IBOC "HD" Digital Radio the SAP feature
is Media Wide and Multi-Language-Broadcasting is a
reality of the future for Broadcaster who want to stay
in the business. -Hello DE- Are You Reading This ?


once again - i will conclude with this truism :
fairness and equality is after all 'good business' ~ RHF