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charlie wrote:
One thing's for sure - I am not going to defend the behaviour of
Israel (I cannot get my head around the fact that a country based on
the experience of the Nazis can turn round and be Nazis).


Israel are not and have never been Nazis. If you are refering to the
treatment of the Palestinians, Israel has never treated them like
the Nazis. It's just propaganda created by the news organizations
to sell newspapers/tv time.

Israel has certainly been far kinder and gentler to the "Palestinians"
than any of their leaders or neighboring countries have been. It
also has been kinder and gentler than England ever was in Ireland.

The Palestinians have never been above sacrificing their own children
for "the cause". The famous shooting of a 12 year old boy filmed by
a French TV crew, was investigated by a German TV network and their
conclusion is that he was shot by a Palestinain because he was on camera.

To keep it the least bit on the topic of shortwave radio, Israel continues
its English broadcasts, but since the first "gulf war", they are nothing
like they were, and the IBA never bothers to refute the claims of the
Palestian propagand machine. If anyone acts like Nazis, it's the Palestinains
complete with their "ethnic cleansing" of Christians.

Geoff.
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On Mar 3, 12:31 pm, "HD Radio Fan" wrote:
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in ...





Roadie wrote:


A radio that uses a built-in generator would be much easier to carry
around and keep charged up than your other alternatives. AM, FM and
weather channel coverage is far far more imprtant than shortwave in an
emergency radio.


Only in the U.S.


Geoff.


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IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice:

1-215-821-1838
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The original poster to this thread is in Canada. Close enough?- Hide quoted text -

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Yes, I am in Canada. I live about ten miles from the border at
Niagara Falls. Spent a lot of time in both Canada and the U.S. Have
relatives in both countrys. Family been here since 1635.
We have the same type of Weather Alert-Emergency Alert system as
the U.S. Environment Canada runs it as far as I know. We can buy the
same alert radios as in the U.S., We use SAME technology in the latest
radios. Same frequencys. NOAA and Environment Canada have agreements
together on the system.
I agree that a radio with weather frequencys would be very
important. However, for some reason, I don't trust these wind-up
radios for long term use. I prefer to use a small digital am/fm/sw
with spare rechargeables and a solar charger. Reason being that I also
use AA batteries for other things. Some of the new thin film solar
cell foldable chargers do a very good job. I believe the thin film
foldables were developed for the military. I was able to get one for
my kit. along with a some sets of the latest technology rechargeables.
(Eneloop and Panasonic make some of the newest high tech batteries.)
Ya, if you think they might drop the big one, wrap one radio in
something like cardboard, and then wrap it in metal foil . (Faraday
cage). If you think the big one is about to happen, retract all whip
antennas, unhook all other antennas, keep your radios at least ten
feet from any metal pipes, lengths of wire etc. that could act as a
collector of EMP. Any whip antenna should be as short as possible, no
more then 30", and much shorter then that if possible. That's why a
very small radio, with a collapsed antenna length of maybe four or
five inches has a better chance of surviving even if it is not in a
Faraday cage.



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Cato wrote:

On Mar 3, 12:31 pm, "HD Radio Fan" wrote:
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in ...





Roadie wrote:


A radio that uses a built-in generator would be much easier to carry
around and keep charged up than your other alternatives. AM, FM and
weather channel coverage is far far more imprtant than shortwave in an
emergency radio.


Only in the U.S.


Geoff.


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IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice:

1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog athttp://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/


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Yes, I am in Canada. I live about ten miles from the border at
Niagara Falls. Spent a lot of time in both Canada and the U.S. Have
relatives in both countrys. Family been here since 1635.


When would you like to sign title over?

Come on now, you being a nice Liberal, Carbon Footprint, Al Gore, Cock Sucking kinda Canuck *******.. Give it
up, Boy!

I'm a real Native American...




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dxAce wrote:

Cato wrote:

On Mar 3, 12:31 pm, "HD Radio Fan" wrote:
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in ...





Roadie wrote:
A radio that uses a built-in generator would be much easier to carry
around and keep charged up than your other alternatives. AM, FM and
weather channel coverage is far far more imprtant than shortwave in an
emergency radio.
Only in the U.S.
Geoff.
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IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice:
1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog athttp://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/
The original poster to this thread is in Canada. Close enough?- Hide quoted text -

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Yes, I am in Canada. I live about ten miles from the border at
Niagara Falls. Spent a lot of time in both Canada and the U.S. Have
relatives in both countrys. Family been here since 1635.


When would you like to sign title over?

Come on now, you being a nice Liberal, Carbon Footprint, Al Gore, Cock Sucking kinda Canuck *******.. Give it
up, Boy!

I'm a real Native American...




I believe you once said you were one sixth Native stock. It appears you
use the race card when it's to your advantage. When it comes to
others...well..you claim they're just pieces of
Mexican/Japanese/Canadian ****.

I feel sorry for you and how you were brought up. Your parents couldn't
instill a sense of decency or respect in you. I'm sure they tried.

You should avoid getting drunk in a public forum. Try AA. Please.


mike


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I saw some neat looking battery chargers at the Wal Mart store
electronics department this afternoon.(I always check out the
electronics department and the magazine racks too,I also bought a new
computer magazine at the store along with my usual Beer and grub) Saker
www.sakar.com makes them.Plug the charger in a car cigarette lighter
(the charger comes with two AA batteries) and the batteries get charged
up.
cuhulin



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On Mar 3, 12:11 pm, (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote:
Roadie wrote:
A radio that uses a built-in generator would be much easier to carry
around and keep charged up than your other alternatives. AM, FM and
weather channel coverage is far far more imprtant than shortwave in an
emergency radio.


Only in the U.S.

Geoff.


Do you honestly think that hams will be of any use for providing
emergency or weather information in an emergency? They haven't yet.
And what possible value could there for the victims of a hurricane to
be able to hear BBC or any other international broadcaster on
shortwave. The original poster would be much better off listening to
local MW and FM broadcasts as was done in New Orleans.


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On Mar 3, 8:13 pm, "Cato" wrote:
On Mar 3, 12:31 pm, "HD Radio Fan" wrote:





"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in ...


Roadie wrote:


A radio that uses a built-in generator would be much easier to carry
around and keep charged up than your other alternatives. AM, FM and
weather channel coverage is far far more imprtant than shortwave in an
emergency radio.


Only in the U.S.


Geoff.


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IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice:

1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog athttp://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/


The original poster to this thread is in Canada. Close enough?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Yes, I am in Canada. I live about ten miles from the border at
Niagara Falls. Spent a lot of time in both Canada and the U.S. Have
relatives in both countrys. Family been here since 1635.
We have the same type of Weather Alert-Emergency Alert system as
the U.S. Environment Canada runs it as far as I know. We can buy the
same alert radios as in the U.S., We use SAME technology in the latest
radios. Same frequencys. NOAA and Environment Canada have agreements
together on the system.
I agree that a radio with weather frequencys would be very
important. However, for some reason, I don't trust these wind-up
radios for long term use.


Uuuuh, why don't you trust the windup radios. Have you had problems
with one? The Baygen radios have been used in Africa for a long
time. Over how long a term were you planning to use the radio.

I prefer to use a small digital am/fm/sw
with spare rechargeables and a solar charger.


Do you realize that solar chargers take a long time and that you need
sun or light for them to work. That may not be very practical in a
real emergency.


Reason being that I also
use AA batteries for other things. Some of the new thin film solar
cell foldable chargers do a very good job. I believe the thin film
foldables were developed for the military. I was able to get one for
my kit. along with a some sets of the latest technology rechargeables.
(Eneloop and Panasonic make some of the newest high tech batteries.)
Ya, if you think they might drop the big one, wrap one radio in
something like cardboard, and then wrap it in metal foil . (Faraday
cage). If you think the big one is about to happen, retract all whip
antennas, unhook all other antennas, keep your radios at least ten
feet from any metal pipes, lengths of wire etc. that could act as a
collector of EMP.


If you survive an event with an EMP sufficient to knock out
electronics I doubt there will be much to hear. Your needs will be
far more immediate.


Any whip antenna should be as short as possible, no
more then 30", and much shorter then that if possible. That's why a
very small radio, with a collapsed antenna length of maybe four or
five inches has a better chance of surviving even if it is not in a
Faraday cage.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



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You ever watched the Damnation Alley movie before? It comes on the FMC
Radio tb channel tomorrow at 11:30 PM.Objective,Burma movie has just now
started on Radio tb.
cuhulin

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"Roadie" ) writes:
On Mar 3, 8:13 pm, "Cato" wrote:
On Mar 3, 12:31 pm, "HD Radio Fan" wrote:





"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in ...


Roadie wrote:


A radio that uses a built-in generator would be much easier to carry
around and keep charged up than your other alternatives. AM, FM and
weather channel coverage is far far more imprtant than shortwave in an
emergency radio.


Only in the U.S.


Geoff.


--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice:
1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog athttp://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/


The original poster to this thread is in Canada. Close enough?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Yes, I am in Canada. I live about ten miles from the border at
Niagara Falls. Spent a lot of time in both Canada and the U.S. Have
relatives in both countrys. Family been here since 1635.
We have the same type of Weather Alert-Emergency Alert system as
the U.S. Environment Canada runs it as far as I know. We can buy the
same alert radios as in the U.S., We use SAME technology in the latest
radios. Same frequencys. NOAA and Environment Canada have agreements
together on the system.
I agree that a radio with weather frequencys would be very
important. However, for some reason, I don't trust these wind-up
radios for long term use.


Uuuuh, why don't you trust the windup radios. Have you had problems
with one? The Baygen radios have been used in Africa for a long
time. Over how long a term were you planning to use the radio.

And of course, one key thing about emergency preparedness is redundancy.
If the windup generator fails, it won't kill the radio. And you should
ahve batteries and other things available to run it. On the other
hand, as you point out the generator is useful if the solar cells won't
charge the batteries because there's no sun (or to run the radio while
the batteries are being charged in the daytime while the sun is out).

Michael
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charlie wrote:

...
represents America is sickening. America and Israel have a lot in
common when it comes to the way that they treat their neighbours.
...
Charlie.


Yeah, would be good to see Israel put some of her MOOSELUM neighbors out
of their misery--just humane really.

JS
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