"Internet radio royalty rates decided (Verdict: it ain't good news)"

"The death of Internet radio, and the damage done to HD Radio, could
affect federal regulator's decision for the merger and the definition
of the relevant market."

"Smaller terrestrial radio stations will probably abandon online
streaming as they'll be paying more for online streaming then they
will for regular broadcasts (and for far less of an incoming revenue
stream). This applies just the same for HD2 streaming."

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/in...good-news.html

Adios, HD Radio !

On Mar 5, 11:02 am, wrote:
"Internet radio royalty rates decided (Verdict: it ain't good news)"

"The death of Internet radio, and the damage done to HD Radio, could
affect federal regulator's decision for the merger and the definition
of the relevant market."

"Smaller terrestrial radio stations will probably abandon online
streaming as they'll be paying more for online streaming then they
will for regular broadcasts (and for far less of an incoming revenue
stream). This applies just the same for HD2 streaming."

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/in...y-rates-decide...

Adios, HD Radio !

LOL

On Mar 5, 2:09 pm, "Steve" wrote:
On Mar 5, 11:02 am, wrote:

"Internet radio royalty rates decided (Verdict: it ain't good news)"

"The death of Internet radio, and the damage done to HD Radio, could
affect federal regulator's decision for the merger and the definition
of the relevant market."

"Smaller terrestrial radio stations will probably abandon online
streaming as they'll be paying more for online streaming then they
will for regular broadcasts (and for far less of an incoming revenue
stream). This applies just the same for HD2 streaming."

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/in...y-rates-decide...

Adios, HD Radio !

LOL

"More on the Copyright Royalty Board Decision on Internet Radio Music
Royalties"

"First, it is essential to understand exactly what this decision
covers. The Board's decision covers only non-interactive webcasters
operating pursuant to the statutory license. Our memo, here, discusses
the statutory licensing scheme, and what a webcasting service must do
to qualify to pay the royalties due under this statutory license.
Essentially, a webcaster covered by this decision is one which
operates like a radio station - where no listener can dictate which
artists or songs he or she will hear (some limited degree of consumer
influence is permitted, but a webcaster must comply with the
restrictions set out in our memo)."

http://www.broadcastlawblog.com/arch...royalties.html

Yes, LOL ! :-)

Propaganda Ejaculate Castrated
snip

How does this affect terrestrial broadcasters who stream?

The principles are exactly the same, but at the individual radio station
level, the dollar amounts are of course are smaller. Clear Channel's total
corporate obligation for November 2006 based on comScore Arbitron ratings
and assuming 13 songs per hour, would be about $500,000... but if that's
for streaming, let's say, 500 stations, it would only be a royalty
obligation of about $1,000 per station per month in 2006. Are those stations
selling enough online spots and website banners and sponsorships to make
that affordable? I'm not sure. (The decision has no impact on news and
talk stations who stream.)

Is this the end of Internet radio?

Although this is undeniably a huge victory for the legal departments of
record labels (or at least for the lawyers at their industry trade
association, the RIAA), I doubt that the heads of the record labels and
their marketing executives actually want to see Internet radio driven out of
business. (This may be a case of "Be careful what you wish for, you may get
it.")

http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/ne...07/index.shtml
__________________________________________________ ________

Is this the end of HD radio?

LOL - Hardly. Maybe the second on air HD-"2" stream will have to be turned
off since the small local radio operator would essentially have to pay
royalties for two radio stations. On the other hand this extra available
bandwidth of a former HD-"2" stream can then be used for full CD like HD
fidelity. Stations broadcasting HD-2 signals don't sound as good as
stations utilizing the full bandwidth on a single "HD-1" stream.

In any case, HD sounds far better than any analog signal. HD radio stations
will abandon analog and redirect the full station power of their amplifiers
towards the HD digital stream.

"Guerite©" wrote:

Propaganda Ejaculate Castrated
snip

How does this affect terrestrial broadcasters who stream?

The principles are exactly the same, but at the individual radio station
level, the dollar amounts are of course are smaller. Clear Channel's total
corporate obligation for November 2006 based on comScore Arbitron ratings
and assuming 13 songs per hour, would be about $500,000... but if that's
for streaming, let's say, 500 stations, it would only be a royalty
obligation of about $1,000 per station per month in 2006. Are those stations
selling enough online spots and website banners and sponsorships to make
that affordable? I'm not sure. (The decision has no impact on news and
talk stations who stream.)

Is this the end of Internet radio?

Although this is undeniably a huge victory for the legal departments of
record labels (or at least for the lawyers at their industry trade
association, the RIAA), I doubt that the heads of the record labels and
their marketing executives actually want to see Internet radio driven out of
business. (This may be a case of "Be careful what you wish for, you may get
it.")

http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/ne...07/index.shtml
__________________________________________________ ________

Is this the end of HD radio?

LOL - Hardly. Maybe the second on air HD-"2" stream will have to be turned
off since the small local radio operator would essentially have to pay
royalties for two radio stations. On the other hand this extra available
bandwidth of a former HD-"2" stream can then be used for full CD like HD
fidelity. Stations broadcasting HD-2 signals don't sound as good as
stations utilizing the full bandwidth on a single "HD-1" stream.

In any case, HD sounds far better than any analog signal. HD radio stations
will abandon analog and redirect the full station power of their amplifiers
towards the HD digital stream.

They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their
listeners will abandon them.

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"Guerite©" wrote:

Propaganda Ejaculate Castrated
snip

How does this affect terrestrial broadcasters who stream?

The principles are exactly the same, but at the individual radio
station
level, the dollar amounts are of course are smaller. Clear Channel's
total
corporate obligation for November 2006 based on comScore Arbitron
ratings
and assuming 13 songs per hour, would be about $500,000... but if
that's
for streaming, let's say, 500 stations, it would only be a royalty
obligation of about $1,000 per station per month in 2006. Are those
stations
selling enough online spots and website banners and sponsorships to make
that affordable? I'm not sure. (The decision has no impact on news and
talk stations who stream.)

Is this the end of Internet radio?

Although this is undeniably a huge victory for the legal departments of
record labels (or at least for the lawyers at their industry trade
association, the RIAA), I doubt that the heads of the record labels and
their marketing executives actually want to see Internet radio driven
out of
business. (This may be a case of "Be careful what you wish for, you may
get
it.")

http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/ne...07/index.shtml
__________________________________________________ ________

Is this the end of HD radio?

LOL - Hardly. Maybe the second on air HD-"2" stream will have to be
turned
off since the small local radio operator would essentially have to pay
royalties for two radio stations. On the other hand this extra
available
bandwidth of a former HD-"2" stream can then be used for full CD like HD
fidelity. Stations broadcasting HD-2 signals don't sound as good as
stations utilizing the full bandwidth on a single "HD-1" stream.

In any case, HD sounds far better than any analog signal. HD radio
stations
will abandon analog and redirect the full station power of their
amplifiers
towards the HD digital stream.

They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their
listeners will abandon them.


They already are abandoning analog radio - to DIGITAL delivery systems such
as the internet, XM & Sirius.

Every young person I know has an MP3 player/iPod which is used to listen to
songs, in DIGITAL format, downloaded for free from the internet. They DO
NOT listen to ANALOG AM or FM radio stations like the youth of your
generation used to do.

The only means open for analog FM radio stations have to compete is to offer
CD quality for FREE = HD! The only means open for analog AM radio's
survival is HD!

Once you have experienced HD you will never go back to analog.

"Guerite©" wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"Guerite©" wrote:

Propaganda Ejaculate Castrated
snip

How does this affect terrestrial broadcasters who stream?

The principles are exactly the same, but at the individual radio
station
level, the dollar amounts are of course are smaller. Clear Channel's
total
corporate obligation for November 2006 based on comScore Arbitron
ratings
and assuming 13 songs per hour, would be about $500,000... but if
that's
for streaming, let's say, 500 stations, it would only be a royalty
obligation of about $1,000 per station per month in 2006. Are those
stations
selling enough online spots and website banners and sponsorships to make
that affordable? I'm not sure. (The decision has no impact on news and
talk stations who stream.)

Is this the end of Internet radio?

Although this is undeniably a huge victory for the legal departments of
record labels (or at least for the lawyers at their industry trade
association, the RIAA), I doubt that the heads of the record labels and
their marketing executives actually want to see Internet radio driven
out of
business. (This may be a case of "Be careful what you wish for, you may
get
it.")

http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/ne...07/index.shtml
__________________________________________________ ________

Is this the end of HD radio?

LOL - Hardly. Maybe the second on air HD-"2" stream will have to be
turned
off since the small local radio operator would essentially have to pay
royalties for two radio stations. On the other hand this extra
available
bandwidth of a former HD-"2" stream can then be used for full CD like HD
fidelity. Stations broadcasting HD-2 signals don't sound as good as
stations utilizing the full bandwidth on a single "HD-1" stream.

In any case, HD sounds far better than any analog signal. HD radio
stations
will abandon analog and redirect the full station power of their
amplifiers
towards the HD digital stream.

They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their
listeners will abandon them.


They already are abandoning analog radio - to DIGITAL delivery systems such
as the internet, XM & Sirius.

Every young person I know has an MP3 player/iPod which is used to listen to
songs, in DIGITAL format, downloaded for free from the internet. They DO
NOT listen to ANALOG AM or FM radio stations like the youth of your
generation used to do.

The only means open for analog FM radio stations have to compete is to offer
CD quality for FREE = HD! The only means open for analog AM radio's
survival is HD!

As Dick Cheney says: Hogwash!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their
listeners will abandon them.

A low power, 9mm HD single chip decoder that uses 10% of the power of the
current chipsets headlines Radio World this week. Using this chip, portables
are now possible with long battery life and the price point comes way down
due to component materials. This is the evolutionary development we were
waiting for that will make receivers better and cheaper.

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their
listeners will abandon them.

A low power, 9mm HD single chip decoder that uses 10% of the power of the
current chipsets headlines Radio World this week. Using this chip, portables
are now possible with long battery life and the price point comes way down
due to component materials. This is the evolutionary development we were
waiting for that will make receivers better and cheaper.

I'm waiting for the evolutionary development that ends QRM.

Best you run along, boy.

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their
listeners will abandon them.

A low power, 9mm HD single chip decoder that uses 10% of the power of the
current chipsets headlines Radio World this week. Using this chip,
portables
are now possible with long battery life and the price point comes way
down
due to component materials. This is the evolutionary development we were
waiting for that will make receivers better and cheaper.

I'm waiting for the evolutionary development that ends QRM.

When nearly nobody is listening, there is no QRN. HD is the only longshot
for saving AM in the US. Other countries, like Canada, South Africa,
Austria, etc., have basically given up on it.