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Mart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!
I HOPE Wal Mart goes belly up
Foever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
cuhulin

"HD Radio²" wrote in message
...

"Radiola" wrote
Pardon my earlier sarcastic reply but it's a jungle in here.

The home theatre system sounds better, I'm sure. But at almost a
thousand dollars, I don't think so, not yet anyway.

An HD FM component receiver plugs into any audio amplifier like in an
existing Home Theatre system.
about $200 http://www.sangean.com/product.php?model=HDT-1

also see http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...alty/0149.html
specs: http://www.sangean.com/downloads/flyers/HDT-1_SPECS.pdf
manual: http://www.sangean.com/downloads/manuals/HDT-1_MAN.pdf

In article ,
David Eduardo wrote:

"Mike S." wrote in message
...

In article , Guerite© ¢ wrote:

"Radiola" wrote in message
groups.com...

HD Radios are now available in all platforms - table top, auto and
componant
for audiophiles.
http://www.HDRadio.com
All HD radio's incorporate analog as well as IBOC receivers.

Portable? Wearable?

Read the March 1st Radio World. New chip, 9mm, smaller, 90% less power
consumption, suitable for very small portable devices. Fabrication beginning
second half of 2007.

Sounds promising.

On 6 Mar 2007 08:51:15 -0800, "Radiola" wrote:

On Mar 6, 8:24 am, Bob Miller wrote:
Heard on NPR this morning WalMart can now purvey to you fine HD
radios.

bob
k5qwg

Here's a question. Why would anyone in their right mind spend over
two hundred dollars for a small table radio who's sound quality is
marginal at best? On another note how can you appreciate the quality
of HD radio with such an inadequate reproduction system? The Boston
Acoustics radio is not bad, I've heard worse, but still it's so
limited. This makes as much sense as receiving HDTV programming on a
1980's Sanyo television. It loses something in the translation, so to
speak.

It makes more sense if it has an output you could plug into a nice
stereo system -- a simple HD tuner would be a nice deal, if there's
enough local programming to justify it. It would also have to compete
with the stations at the low end of the FM band where all kinds of
alternative, jazz and classical music is available relatively
commercial free. I wouldn't welcome five minute commercial breaks on
HD programming.

bob
k5qwg

On Mar 7, 9:06 am, Bob Miller wrote:
On 6 Mar 2007 08:51:15 -0800, "Radiola" wrote:

On Mar 6, 8:24 am, Bob Miller wrote:
Heard on NPR this morning WalMart can now purvey to you fine HD
radios.

bob
k5qwg

Here's a question. Why would anyone in their right mind spend over
two hundred dollars for a small table radio who's sound quality is
marginal at best? On another note how can you appreciate the quality
of HD radio with such an inadequate reproduction system? The Boston
Acoustics radio is not bad, I've heard worse, but still it's so
limited. This makes as much sense as receiving HDTV programming on a
1980's Sanyo television. It loses something in the translation, so to
speak.

It makes more sense if it has an output you could plug into a nice
stereo system -- a simple HD tuner would be a nice deal, if there's
enough local programming to justify it. It would also have to compete
with the stations at the low end of the FM band where all kinds of
alternative, jazz and classical music is available relatively
commercial free. I wouldn't welcome five minute commercial breaks on
HD programming.

bob
k5qwg

Absolutely. The smaller speaker all in one sets just don't cut it and
do justice to HD's new technology and potential. I did some shopping
around for the full up receivers for home stereo use. Around 1k
bucks. Uhh, not yet. FM radio is not worth that much, at least not
yet.

On Mar 6, 12:24�pm, Bob Miller wrote:
Heard on NPR this morning WalMart can now purvey to you *fine HD
radios.

bob
k5qwg

"HD Radio Wal-Mart Style"

http://insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com...art-style.html

"What Wal*Mart's HD Radio announcement means"

"But there's a dark side to that distribution, and it's this: What if
simply making radios available isn't enough to induce consumers to buy
and use them? As I've said before, the issue with HD has never been
about availability - as we will soon discover. The issue has been
about the fundamental value proposition."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/03/what_wa....html#comments


It doesn't mean jack-**** - HD radios are not selling. This expensive
in-dash HD radio would need to be installed somewhere else - only
lower-class citizens shop at Wal Mart, just like K Mart and any big-
box retailer. I shopped at Wal Mart, at the beach, and I felt like I
stepped into a thrid-world country.

On Mar 6, 2:24�pm, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 09:46:53 -0500, "Mike" wrote in
:

"Bob Miller" wrote in message
.. .
Heard on NPR this morning WalMart can now purvey to you *fine HD
radios.

Yeah, they have the Boston Acoustics HD radio and a car radio.

Sure enough, but who cares?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=5336041
Boston Acoustics HD Radio in Platinum, RECEPTERHDPLAT $299.86

Item Description

*The Recepter Radio HD is the first compact, high-performance stereo
and digital HD radio table model that delivers brilliant clarity and
high-fidelity sound. It is also the first home HD table radio to
receive and seamlessly play the additional digital HD2 multicast
programming that many stations are now broadcasting.

Key Features & Benefits:

*Groundbreaking HD digital technology

*No subscription is needed to listen to HD radio technology with the
sharpest, clearest reception and the best sound *

*Satellite speaker

*Compact satellite speaker lets you listen in true stereo sound *

*Input for iPod and MP3 players

*Play what you carry on your portable player on the Recepter Radio HD,
and let the entire room hear your tracks *

*Patented BassTrak circuitry

*Delivers satisfying bass, even at low volumes, while eliminating
distortion *

*Mini remote control

*A credit card-size remote control makes using the Recepter Radio HD
easy from anywhere in the room *

*20 station presets

*Preset the Recepter Radio to your 20 favorite AM and FM talk and
music stations *

*Dual independent clock alarms

*Every couple will appreciate having two independent alarm clocks that
can be set at two different times for different schedules *

No one cares:

"In-Stat: Digital Radio Set to Take Off"

"In 2006, 73 percent of respondents to an In-Stat U.S. consumer survey
were aware of HD Radio on some level."

http://beradio.com/eyeoniboc/instat-digital-radio-set/

"Sirius, XM, and HD: Consumer interest reality check" (Alexaholic)

"While interest in satellite radio is diminishing, interest in HD
shows no signs of a pulse."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/02/sirius_....html#comments

This just confirms, the lack of interest for HD Radio, on Google
Trends:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd... =all&date=all

"Rethinking AM's Future"

"Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of
reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the
anecdotal evidence suggests. Ibiquity no longer reports in its public
summaries whether a station is on the air. Making AM-HD work well as a
long-term investment is seen as an expensive and risky challenge for
most stations and their owners. With the bulk of successful AMs airing
news, talk and sports, the improved fidelity advantage of HD and
stereo seem only marginally attractive. There is the significant
downside of potential new interference to some of their own AM analog
listeners as well as listeners of adjacent-channel stations. And of
course we still have no nighttime authority for AM-HD."

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.557.html

Existing RDS has the same texting functions, as HD/IBOC. For now, HD
Radio/IBOC is dead.

On Mar 6, 3:11�pm, "Guerite�" wrote:
"JimC" wrote in message

t...

What's the development status of HD programming? (Are they being
broadcast in most metropolitan areas now?) *Also, is the audio fidelity
as good as FM, and if not, what are the advantages of getting HD-AM?

Jim

AM HD is stereo and is about as good as analog FM.

Both AM HD & FM HD have ( um, forgot what it's called) auto-station ID
display, as well as program/song information display. *Great for DXing!

FM HD is about as good as CD audio. *Many FM HD stations broadcast two HD
channels consisting of different programming.

No one cares:
"In-Stat: Digital Radio Set to Take Off"

"In 2006, 73 percent of respondents to an In-Stat U.S. consumer survey
were aware of HD Radio on some level."

http://beradio.com/eyeoniboc/instat-digital-radio-set/

"Sirius, XM, and HD: Consumer interest reality check" (Alexaholic)

"While interest in satellite radio is diminishing, interest in HD
shows no signs of a pulse."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/02/sirius_....html#comments

This just confirms, the lack of interest for HD Radio, on Google
Trends:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd... =all&date=all

"Rethinking AM's Future"

"Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of
reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the
anecdotal evidence suggests. Ibiquity no longer reports in its public
summaries whether a station is on the air. Making AM-HD work well as a
long-term investment is seen as an expensive and risky challenge for
most stations and their owners. With the bulk of successful AMs airing
news, talk and sports, the improved fidelity advantage of HD and
stereo seem only marginally attractive. There is the significant
downside of potential new interference to some of their own AM analog
listeners as well as listeners of adjacent-channel stations. And of
course we still have no nighttime authority for AM-HD."

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.557.html

Existing RDS has the same texting functions, as HD/IBOC. For now, HD
Radio/IBOC is dead.

On Mar 6, 3:20�pm, "Guerite�" wrote:
"Radiola" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Mar 6, 8:24 am, Bob Miller wrote:
Heard on NPR this morning WalMart can now purvey to you *fine HD
radios.

bob
k5qwg

Here's a question. *Why would anyone in their right mind spend over
two hundred dollars for a small table radio who's sound quality is
marginal at best?

How do you know it's "marginal at best"? *Do you own a HD radio?
Which one?

On another note how can you appreciate the quality
of HD radio with such an inadequate reproduction system?

My home theatre system does not have dual alarm clocks let alone a clock.
Besides, I can't fit a home theatre stereo on my night table, can you?

The Boston
Acoustics radio is not bad, I've heard worse, but still it's so
limited.

Got headphones? *Try a pair of Grado's with your(?) B.A. Receptor - supurb!

HD Radios are now available in all platforms - table top, auto and componant
for audiophiles.http://www.HDRadio.com
All HD radio's incorporate analog as well as IBOC receivers.

This makes as much sense as receiving HDTV programming on a
1980's Sanyo television. *It loses something in the translation, so to
speak.

Then get a FM HD componant receiver for your Home Theatre system.http://www.HDRadio.com

No one cares:

"In-Stat: Digital Radio Set to Take Off"

"In 2006, 73 percent of respondents to an In-Stat U.S. consumer survey
were aware of HD Radio on some level."

http://beradio.com/eyeoniboc/instat-digital-radio-set/

"Sirius, XM, and HD: Consumer interest reality check" (Alexaholic)

"While interest in satellite radio is diminishing, interest in HD
shows no signs of a pulse."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/02/sirius_....html#comments

This just confirms, the lack of interest for HD Radio, on Google
Trends:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd... =all&date=all

"Rethinking AM's Future"

"Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of
reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the
anecdotal evidence suggests. Ibiquity no longer reports in its public
summaries whether a station is on the air. Making AM-HD work well as a
long-term investment is seen as an expensive and risky challenge for
most stations and their owners. With the bulk of successful AMs airing
news, talk and sports, the improved fidelity advantage of HD and
stereo seem only marginally attractive. There is the significant
downside of potential new interference to some of their own AM analog
listeners as well as listeners of adjacent-channel stations. And of
course we still have no nighttime authority for AM-HD."

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.557.html

Existing RDS has the same texting functions, as HD/IBOC. For now, HD
Radio/IBOC is dead.

On Mar 6, 4:29�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"JimC" wrote in message

t...

What's the development status of HD programming? (Are they being broadcast
in most metropolitan areas now?) *Also, is the audio fidelity as good as
FM, and if not, what are the advantages of getting HD-AM?

Something over 500 HD equipped FMs are originating HD-2 programming separate
from the HD-1 duplication of the analog service. Another 500 to 600 stations
have just HD-1 duplication in digital of the analog programming.

In my experience with a number of HD stations, the HD-1 sounds better than
the analog signal, in part due to the lack of the 75 ms preemphasis applied
to analog FM and in part due to digital processing which results in a less
clipped and compressed audio if properly set up.

HD AM sounds much better than analog AM, although there is no "additional
channel" service available. HD AM sounds as good as a typical iPod or MP3
recording; it is also vastly less susceptible to man made and ambient noise.

No one cares:

"In-Stat: Digital Radio Set to Take Off"

"In 2006, 73 percent of respondents to an In-Stat U.S. consumer survey
were aware of HD Radio on some level."

http://beradio.com/eyeoniboc/instat-digital-radio-set/

"Sirius, XM, and HD: Consumer interest reality check" (Alexaholic)

"While interest in satellite radio is diminishing, interest in HD
shows no signs of a pulse."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/02/sirius_....html#comments

This just confirms, the lack of interest for HD Radio, on Google
Trends:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd... =all&date=all

"Rethinking AM's Future"

"Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of
reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the
anecdotal evidence suggests. Ibiquity no longer reports in its public
summaries whether a station is on the air. Making AM-HD work well as a
long-term investment is seen as an expensive and risky challenge for
most stations and their owners. With the bulk of successful AMs airing
news, talk and sports, the improved fidelity advantage of HD and
stereo seem only marginally attractive. There is the significant
downside of potential new interference to some of their own AM analog
listeners as well as listeners of adjacent-channel stations. And of
course we still have no nighttime authority for AM-HD."

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.557.html

Existing RDS has the same texting functions, as HD/IBOC. For now, HD
Radio/IBOC is dead.