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Listening to WJR 710 Detroit from Central Ohio, in scattered
thunderstorms, the lightning crashes are not heard, but rather it just drops into the analog channel for a while until the digital recovers. If lightning crashes are rare enough so they aren't likely to come in pairs, you never hear a lightning crash. In heavier storms, the station becomes unlistenable, as it is in analog alone. That you don't hear the lightning crash means that the digital and analog signals happen at different times, by at leash the length of a static crash. Perhaps the analog is delayed by the receiver, and the digital by the transmitter, I don't know. -- Ron Hardin On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk. |
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central Ohio NEVER has thunderstorms or lightning
Quit Fibbing : D "Ron Hardin" wrote in message ... Listening to WJR 710 Detroit from Central Ohio, in scattered thunderstorms, the lightning crashes are not heard, but rather it just drops into the analog channel for a while until the digital recovers. If lightning crashes are rare enough so they aren't likely to come in pairs, you never hear a lightning crash. In heavier storms, the station becomes unlistenable, as it is in analog alone. That you don't hear the lightning crash means that the digital and analog signals happen at different times, by at leash the length of a static crash. Perhaps the analog is delayed by the receiver, and the digital by the transmitter, I don't know. -- Ron Hardin On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk. |
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:25:21 +0000, Ron Hardin wrote:
That you don't hear the lightning crash means that the digital and analog signals happen at different times, by at leash the length of a static crash. Perhaps the analog is delayed by the receiver, and the digital by the transmitter, I don't know. Both are delayed at the transmitter. It takes time to do the data compression for the digital signal. The analog is delayed intentionally, to ensure it comes out at the same time as the digital so that things don't "jump" if (as you heard) it blends to analog. I have heard FM stations that didn't get it right, and did jump when going to/from analog. It's possible on AM too but I haven't heard that yet. There is also a bit of delay in the receiver - for decompression of digital. The receiver also delays the analog to match. At least with the BA receiver, this happens even if the station isn't transmitting IBOC. It can be interesting to tune in a non-IBOC AM station on the IBOC receiver, and simultaneously tune in the same station on an analog receiver. The audio on the IBOC receiver will be noticeably delayed relative to the analog set, even though the station isn't transmitting a digital signal. |
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![]() "Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message news ![]() On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:25:21 +0000, Ron Hardin wrote: That you don't hear the lightning crash means that the digital and analog signals happen at different times, by at leash the length of a static crash. Perhaps the analog is delayed by the receiver, and the digital by the transmitter, I don't know. Both are delayed at the transmitter. It takes time to do the data compression for the digital signal. The analog is delayed intentionally, to ensure it comes out at the same time as the digital so that things don't "jump" if (as you heard) it blends to analog. I have heard FM stations that didn't get it right, and did jump when going to/from analog. It's possible on AM too but I haven't heard that yet. There is also a bit of delay in the receiver - for decompression of digital. The receiver also delays the analog to match. At least with the BA receiver, this happens even if the station isn't transmitting IBOC. It can be interesting to tune in a non-IBOC AM station on the IBOC receiver, and simultaneously tune in the same station on an analog receiver. The audio on the IBOC receiver will be noticeably delayed relative to the analog set, even though the station isn't transmitting a digital signal. So much for having a bunch of radios on the same station at a kegger or whatever.. one guy running a craptacular IBOC radio would throw the whole works off. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Doug Smith W9WI wrote:
The analog is delayed intentionally, to ensure it comes out at the same time as the digital so that things don't "jump" if (as you heard) it blends to analog. I have heard FM stations that didn't get it right, and They apparently aren't transmitted at the same time, though, or the lightning crash would wipe out both versions of the same audio, and it doesn't. When the digital is wiped out, the analog is lightning-free, even though they would both come out of the speaker at the same time. -- Ron Hardin On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk. |
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:16:54 +0000, Ron Hardin wrote:
They apparently aren't transmitted at the same time, though, or the lightning crash would wipe out both versions of the same audio, and it doesn't. When the digital is wiped out, the analog is lightning-free, even though they would both come out of the speaker at the same time. Sorry, looks like I missed your point the first time... Don't really have a good explanation for that observation... |
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