I downloaded PC-ALE a few days ago and have been experimenting with
it. Monitoring ALE is quite a unique activity and I think it requires
a special temperament. I'm not sure if my temperament is the right
one, but that's what I'm trying to figure out.

Are there any readers out there who are old hands at ALE monitoring
who care to comment on what you find most satisfying/interesting about
it? Also, any advice for someone, like me, who's just beginning to get
involved?

Thanks,

Steve

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...
I downloaded PC-ALE a few days ago and have been experimenting with
it. Monitoring ALE is quite a unique activity and I think it requires
a special temperament. I'm not sure if my temperament is the right
one, but that's what I'm trying to figure out.

Are there any readers out there who are old hands at ALE monitoring
who care to comment on what you find most satisfying/interesting about
it? Also, any advice for someone, like me, who's just beginning to get
involved?

Thanks,

Steve


Can't say I've received much ALE. I have about 15 frequencies
saved where ALE has been reported but it doesn't seem very
common. Maybe I'm not listening to the right frequencies at
the right times.

--
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"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote in message
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"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...
I downloaded PC-ALE a few days ago and have been experimenting with
it. Monitoring ALE is quite a unique activity and I think it requires
a special temperament. I'm not sure if my temperament is the right
one, but that's what I'm trying to figure out.

Are there any readers out there who are old hands at ALE monitoring
who care to comment on what you find most satisfying/interesting about
it? Also, any advice for someone, like me, who's just beginning to get
involved?

Thanks,

Steve


Can't say I've received much ALE. I have about 15 frequencies
saved where ALE has been reported but it doesn't seem very
common. Maybe I'm not listening to the right frequencies at
the right times.

Just heard some at 15043 kHz, USB, s3 maybe, southern California.
But it still seems sparse.

--
rb

On Apr 7, 11:37 am, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
wrote:
"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote in m...







"Steve" wrote in message
roups.com...
I downloaded PC-ALE a few days ago and have been experimenting with
it. Monitoring ALE is quite a unique activity and I think it requires
a special temperament. I'm not sure if my temperament is the right
one, but that's what I'm trying to figure out.

Are there any readers out there who are old hands at ALE monitoring
who care to comment on what you find most satisfying/interesting about
it? Also, any advice for someone, like me, who's just beginning to get
involved?

Thanks,

Steve

Can't say I've received much ALE. I have about 15 frequencies
saved where ALE has been reported but it doesn't seem very
common. Maybe I'm not listening to the right frequencies at
the right times.

Just heard some at 15043 kHz, USB, s3 maybe, southern California.
But it still seems sparse.

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Some logs from a little earlier this week:

[14:10:55][FRQ 15043000][SND][ ][TWS][JNR ]
[AL0] BER 30 SN 15
[13:43:54][FRQ 18003000][SND][ ][TWS][JNR ]
[AL0] BER 23 SN 05
[13:42:05][FRQ 13907000][TO ][OPB ][TIS][X93 ]
[AL0] BER 30 SN 19
[13:33:14][FRQ 5708000][SND][ ][TWS][ADW ]
[AL0] BER 30 SN 16
[13:29:17][FRQ 6721000][SND][ ][TWS][RIC ]
[AL0] BER 23 SN 13
[13:26:29][FRQ 8912000][SND][ ][TWS][PNR400 ]
[AL0] BER 29 SN 00
[13:25:50][FRQ 13907000][TO ][OPB ][TIS][X93 ]
[AL0] BER 29 SN 15
[13:21:20][FRQ 18594000][SND][ ][TWS][X93 ]
[AL0] BER 27 SN 17
[13:01:24][FRQ 10242000][SND][ ][TWS][PNR400 ]
[AL0] BER 30 SN 09
[12:58:13][FRQ 18594000][SND][ ][TWS][PNR400 ]
[AL0] BER 30 SN 07
[12:57:52][FRQ 15867000][SND][ ][TWS][PNR400 ]
[AL0] BER 25 SN 14

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Apr 7, 11:37 am, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
wrote:
"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote in
m...







"Steve" wrote in message
roups.com...
I downloaded PC-ALE a few days ago and have been experimenting with
it. Monitoring ALE is quite a unique activity and I think it requires
a special temperament. I'm not sure if my temperament is the right
one, but that's what I'm trying to figure out.

Are there any readers out there who are old hands at ALE monitoring
who care to comment on what you find most satisfying/interesting about
it? Also, any advice for someone, like me, who's just beginning to get
involved?

Thanks,

Steve

Can't say I've received much ALE. I have about 15 frequencies
saved where ALE has been reported but it doesn't seem very
common. Maybe I'm not listening to the right frequencies at
the right times.

Just heard some at 15043 kHz, USB, s3 maybe, southern California.
But it still seems sparse.

--
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Some logs from a little earlier this week:

[14:10:55][FRQ 15043000][SND][ ][TWS][JNR ]
[AL0] BER 30 SN 15
[13:43:54][FRQ 18003000][SND][ ][TWS][JNR ]
[AL0] BER 23 SN 05
[13:42:05][FRQ 13907000][TO ][OPB ][TIS][X93 ]
[AL0] BER 30 SN 19
[13:33:14][FRQ 5708000][SND][ ][TWS][ADW ]
[AL0] BER 30 SN 16
[13:29:17][FRQ 6721000][SND][ ][TWS][RIC ]
[AL0] BER 23 SN 13
[13:26:29][FRQ 8912000][SND][ ][TWS][PNR400 ]
[AL0] BER 29 SN 00
[13:25:50][FRQ 13907000][TO ][OPB ][TIS][X93 ]
[AL0] BER 29 SN 15
[13:21:20][FRQ 18594000][SND][ ][TWS][X93 ]
[AL0] BER 27 SN 17
[13:01:24][FRQ 10242000][SND][ ][TWS][PNR400 ]
[AL0] BER 30 SN 09
[12:58:13][FRQ 18594000][SND][ ][TWS][PNR400 ]
[AL0] BER 30 SN 07
[12:57:52][FRQ 15867000][SND][ ][TWS][PNR400 ]
[AL0] BER 25 SN 14


Cool. I've added the frequencies to my list.

I've installed PC-ALE but it hasn't demodulated
anything. Normally it says "SCANNING" and then
when I hear a signal it typically says "SYNCING" or
something like that but it has never printed a demodulated
message.
Do you know what the settings are to make it
demodulate signals?

--
rb

On Apr 8, 12:15 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Apr 7, 11:37 am, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
wrote:
"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote in
m...

"Steve" wrote in message
roups.com...
I downloaded PC-ALE a few days ago and have been experimenting with
it. Monitoring ALE is quite a unique activity and I think it requires
a special temperament. I'm not sure if my temperament is the right
one, but that's what I'm trying to figure out.

Are there any readers out there who are old hands at ALE monitoring
who care to comment on what you find most satisfying/interesting about
it? Also, any advice for someone, like me, who's just beginning to get
involved?

Thanks,

Steve

Can't say I've received much ALE. I have about 15 frequencies
saved where ALE has been reported but it doesn't seem very
common. Maybe I'm not listening to the right frequencies at
the right times.

Just heard some at 15043 kHz, USB, s3 maybe, southern California.
But it still seems sparse.

--
rb- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Some logs from a little earlier this week:

[14:10:55][FRQ 15043000][SND][ ][TWS][JNR ]
[AL0] BER 30 SN 15
[13:43:54][FRQ 18003000][SND][ ][TWS][JNR ]
[AL0] BER 23 SN 05
[13:42:05][FRQ 13907000][TO ][OPB ][TIS][X93 ]
[AL0] BER 30 SN 19
[13:33:14][FRQ 5708000][SND][ ][TWS][ADW ]
[AL0] BER 30 SN 16
[13:29:17][FRQ 6721000][SND][ ][TWS][RIC ]
[AL0] BER 23 SN 13
[13:26:29][FRQ 8912000][SND][ ][TWS][PNR400 ]
[AL0] BER 29 SN 00
[13:25:50][FRQ 13907000][TO ][OPB ][TIS][X93 ]
[AL0] BER 29 SN 15
[13:21:20][FRQ 18594000][SND][ ][TWS][X93 ]
[AL0] BER 27 SN 17
[13:01:24][FRQ 10242000][SND][ ][TWS][PNR400 ]
[AL0] BER 30 SN 09
[12:58:13][FRQ 18594000][SND][ ][TWS][PNR400 ]
[AL0] BER 30 SN 07
[12:57:52][FRQ 15867000][SND][ ][TWS][PNR400 ]
[AL0] BER 25 SN 14

Cool. I've added the frequencies to my list.

I've installed PC-ALE but it hasn't demodulated
anything. Normally it says "SCANNING" and then
when I hear a signal it typically says "SYNCING" or
something like that but it has never printed a demodulated
message.
Do you know what the settings are to make it
demodulate signals?

--
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- Show quoted text -

I'll have to check. If you look under configuration / options, you're
have to identify the receiver type. Then you're asked which features
you want to enable, and you should be able to pick and choose
liberally here. Then there are some parameters. The values I'm using
are as follows:

60 - Sounding Period
4 - Resound Period
3 - DCD Threshold
1 - Call Attempts
360 - TWA
30 - PTTD ms
25 - Sync Votes
25 - Frame Votes
0 - SCSC
18 - LQA Timeout
1 - Sync Errors
3 - Frame Errors
30 - Listen Time
50 - TX Audio Level
50 - RX Audio Level
1 - Radio Comm Port

I don't know what all of these values represent, but these are the
ones I use and everything seems to work okay.

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Apr 8, 12:15 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

snip


Cool. I've added the frequencies to my list.

I've installed PC-ALE but it hasn't demodulated
anything. Normally it says "SCANNING" and then
when I hear a signal it typically says "SYNCING" or
something like that but it has never printed a demodulated
message.
Do you know what the settings are to make it
demodulate signals?

--
rb- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'll have to check. If you look under configuration / options, you're
have to identify the receiver type. Then you're asked which features
you want to enable, and you should be able to pick and choose
liberally here. Then there are some parameters. The values I'm using
are as follows:

60 - Sounding Period
4 - Resound Period
3 - DCD Threshold
1 - Call Attempts
360 - TWA
30 - PTTD ms
25 - Sync Votes
25 - Frame Votes
0 - SCSC
18 - LQA Timeout
1 - Sync Errors
3 - Frame Errors
30 - Listen Time
50 - TX Audio Level
50 - RX Audio Level
1 - Radio Comm Port

I don't know what all of these values represent, but these are the
ones I use and everything seems to work okay.


Those seem to all be the defaults. (Except I show 180 LQA Timeout,
and the 0 is half cut off.)
I also have lots of other options on that window. Do you have
something like "Current Group" "_A _B _C....." and
"Enable/Disable" "_Sounding _Polling _LQA _Allcalls _Anycalls....."?

Also, it doesn't have my receiver type, but I don't think
that should matter much, especially if I am not transmitting.

--
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On Apr 8, 3:13 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Apr 8, 12:15 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

snip







Cool. I've added the frequencies to my list.

I've installed PC-ALE but it hasn't demodulated
anything. Normally it says "SCANNING" and then
when I hear a signal it typically says "SYNCING" or
something like that but it has never printed a demodulated
message.
Do you know what the settings are to make it
demodulate signals?

--
rb- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'll have to check. If you look under configuration / options, you're
have to identify the receiver type. Then you're asked which features
you want to enable, and you should be able to pick and choose
liberally here. Then there are some parameters. The values I'm using
are as follows:

60 - Sounding Period
4 - Resound Period
3 - DCD Threshold
1 - Call Attempts
360 - TWA
30 - PTTD ms
25 - Sync Votes
25 - Frame Votes
0 - SCSC
18 - LQA Timeout
1 - Sync Errors
3 - Frame Errors
30 - Listen Time
50 - TX Audio Level
50 - RX Audio Level
1 - Radio Comm Port

I don't know what all of these values represent, but these are the
ones I use and everything seems to work okay.

Those seem to all be the defaults. (Except I show 180 LQA Timeout,
and the 0 is half cut off.)
I also have lots of other options on that window. Do you have
something like "Current Group" "_A _B _C....." and
"Enable/Disable" "_Sounding _Polling _LQA _Allcalls _Anycalls....."?

Also, it doesn't have my receiver type, but I don't think
that should matter much, especially if I am not transmitting.

--
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I doubt that the "Current Group" area is the problem. Any frequency
you plug in is going to be placed in some group or other, and when the
receiver is scanning it will scan all of the groups.

I have the following "enabled":

Allcalls
Anycalls
Display Sounds
Listen Calls
Freq display
Voice detect

These may have been defaults...I can't recall now.

I'm surprised that there's no place where it says "Radio Type". On
mine, this appears in the upper right hand corner of the configuration/
options screen. When you click on it, there's a drop down menu that
includes a bunch of receivers.

On Apr 8, 3:13 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Apr 8, 12:15 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

snip







Cool. I've added the frequencies to my list.

I've installed PC-ALE but it hasn't demodulated
anything. Normally it says "SCANNING" and then
when I hear a signal it typically says "SYNCING" or
something like that but it has never printed a demodulated
message.
Do you know what the settings are to make it
demodulate signals?

--
rb- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'll have to check. If you look under configuration / options, you're
have to identify the receiver type. Then you're asked which features
you want to enable, and you should be able to pick and choose
liberally here. Then there are some parameters. The values I'm using
are as follows:

60 - Sounding Period
4 - Resound Period
3 - DCD Threshold
1 - Call Attempts
360 - TWA
30 - PTTD ms
25 - Sync Votes
25 - Frame Votes
0 - SCSC
18 - LQA Timeout
1 - Sync Errors
3 - Frame Errors
30 - Listen Time
50 - TX Audio Level
50 - RX Audio Level
1 - Radio Comm Port

I don't know what all of these values represent, but these are the
ones I use and everything seems to work okay.

Those seem to all be the defaults. (Except I show 180 LQA Timeout,
and the 0 is half cut off.)
I also have lots of other options on that window. Do you have
something like "Current Group" "_A _B _C....." and
"Enable/Disable" "_Sounding _Polling _LQA _Allcalls _Anycalls....."?

Also, it doesn't have my receiver type, but I don't think
that should matter much, especially if I am not transmitting.

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Oh, and while I'm thinking about it, here's a list of all the
frequencies I'm currently using:

ID RX FREQ MODE TX FREQ MODE T/R GRPS SND SELF
ANT PWR USE ATTN
-- --------------- --------------- --- -------- --- ---------------
--- --- --- ----
00 3617000 Hz USB 3617000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
01 3626000 Hz USB 3626000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
02 3791000 Hz USB 3791000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
03 3996000 Hz USB 3996000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
04 7165500 Hz USB 7165500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
05 10145500 Hz USB 10145500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
06 14342500 Hz USB 14342500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
07 5371500 Hz USB 5371500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
08 5403500 Hz USB 5403500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
09 7030500 Hz USB 7030500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
10 7040500 Hz USB 7040500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
11 7065000 Hz USB 7065000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
12 7102000 Hz USB 7102000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
13 10136500 Hz USB 10136500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
14 14100500 Hz USB 14100500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
15 14109500 Hz USB 14109500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
16 11175000 Hz USB 11175000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
17 8992000 Hz USB 8992000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
18 13200000 Hz USB 13200000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
19 15016000 Hz USB 15016000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
20 4724000 Hz USB 4724000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
21 6739000 Hz USB 6739000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
22 3137000 Hz USB 3137000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
23 4721000 Hz USB 4721000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
24 5708000 Hz USB 5708000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
25 6721000 Hz USB 6721000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
26 9025000 Hz USB 9025000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
27 11226000 Hz USB 11226000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
28 13215000 Hz USB 13215000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
29 15043000 Hz USB 15043000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
30 18003000 Hz USB 18003000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
31 23337000 Hz USB 23337000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
32 5732000 Hz USB 5732000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
33 7527000 Hz USB 7527000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
34 8912000 Hz USB 8912000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
35 10242000 Hz USB 10242000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
36 11494000 Hz USB 11494000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
37 13907000 Hz USB 13907000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
38 15867000 Hz USB 15867000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
39 18594000 Hz USB 18594000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
40 20890000 Hz USB 20890000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
41 23214000 Hz USB 23214000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
42 25350000 Hz USB 25350000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
43 3053000 Hz USB 3053000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
44 4730000 Hz USB 4730000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
45 6709000 Hz USB 6709000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
46 8859000 Hz USB 8859000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
47 8980000 Hz USB 8980000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
48 9034000 Hz USB 9034000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
49 11196000 Hz USB 11196000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
50 13221000 Hz USB 13221000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
51 15082000 Hz USB 15082000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
52 17988000 Hz USB 17988000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
53 2805000 Hz USB 2805000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
54 5708000 Hz USB 5708000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
55 6715000 Hz USB 6715000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
56 6721000 Hz USB 6721000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
57 7632000 Hz USB 7632000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
58 8965000 Hz USB 8965000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
59 9057000 Hz USB 9057000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
60 2371000 Hz USB 2371000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
61 2374000 Hz USB 2374000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
62 4466000 Hz USB 4466000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
63 4469000 Hz USB 4469000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
64 4506000 Hz USB 4506000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
65 4509000 Hz USB 4509000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
66 4582000 Hz USB 4582000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
67 4585000 Hz USB 4585000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
68 4601000 Hz USB 4601000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
69 4604000 Hz USB 4604000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
70 4627000 Hz USB 4627000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
71 4630000 Hz USB 4630000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
72 7341000 Hz USB 7341000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
73 7635000 Hz USB 7635000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
74 7920000 Hz USB 7920000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
75 10162000 Hz USB 10162000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
76 13442000 Hz USB 13442000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
77 14902000 Hz USB 14902000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
78 18205000 Hz USB 18205000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Apr 8, 3:13 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
wrote:

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Those seem to all be the defaults. (Except I show 180 LQA Timeout,
and the 0 is half cut off.)
I also have lots of other options on that window. Do you have
something like "Current Group" "_A _B _C....." and
"Enable/Disable" "_Sounding _Polling _LQA _Allcalls _Anycalls....."?

Also, it doesn't have my receiver type, but I don't think
that should matter much, especially if I am not transmitting.

--
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- Show quoted text -

I doubt that the "Current Group" area is the problem. Any frequency
you plug in is going to be placed in some group or other, and when the
receiver is scanning it will scan all of the groups.

I have the following "enabled":

Allcalls
Anycalls
Display Sounds
Listen Calls
Freq display
Voice detect

These may have been defaults...I can't recall now.

I'm surprised that there's no place where it says "Radio Type". On
mine, this appears in the upper right hand corner of the configuration/
options screen. When you click on it, there's a drop down menu that
includes a bunch of receivers.


Mine does have "Radio Type". But under that it doesn't
have TS-440. It has TS-850 but I think the protocol for
the TS-850 is different.



Mine didn't default to Allcalls, Anycalls, Listen Calls,
or Voice Detect. I clicked them. That didn't change
things. Then I turned everything on. It crashed.
I unclicked "Sounding". Then I got something.

[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][R]
[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][E]

[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][E]
[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][E]
[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][E]
[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][R]

Cool. But what does it mean?

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