It's All A Lie.
The Doomsday Prophets never give up. They will disappear for a
while and then come back with something new to scare us with.
And they have legions of "True Believers". Some of them on this
very list as we can see.
I would be really embarrassed to be one of them and shown to be
a fool.

Truth is the world will warm or cool on its own. And it will be
natural, with little or no help from us.
In the last 110 years scientist have warned us about Global Warming,
Global Cooling, Global Warming, Global Cooling, and now Global Warming
again.
How many people remember the scares of the sixties and seventies??
How many of them came true??
Remember all the magazines and newspapers, radio and t.v. reports
that we were headed for disasterous Global Cooling and the return of
an Ice Age?? I remember teachers in school scaring us kids. I had
visions of a huge wall of ice creeping down the North American
continent, crushing the cities. Ocean levels dropping hundreds of
feet. The End Of The World!!!
Science magazine (Dec. 10, 1976) warned of "extensive Northern
Hemisphere glaciation."
Science Digest (February 1973) reported that "the world's
climatologists are agreed" that we must "prepare for the next ice
age."
The Christian Science Monitor ("Warning: Earth's Climate is Changing
Faster Than Even Experts Expect," Aug. 27, 1974) reported that
glaciers "have begun to advance," "growing seasons in England and
Scandinavia are getting shorter" and "the North Atlantic is cooling
down about as fast as an ocean can cool."
Newsweek agreed ("The Cooling World," April 28, 1975) that
meteorologists "are almost unanimous" that catastrophic famines might
result from the global cooling that the
New York Times (Sept. 14, 1975) said "may mark the return to another
ice age." The Times (May 21, 1975) also said "a major cooling of the
climate is widely considered inevitable" now that it is "well
established" that the Northern Hemisphere's climate "has been getting
cooler since about 1950."


Global Cooling: 1954-1976

The ice age is coming, the sun's zooming in
Engines stop running, the wheat is growing thin
A nuclear era, but I have no fear
'Cause London is drowning, and I live by the river
-- The Clash
"London Calling,"
released in 1979

The first Earth Day was celebrated on April 22, 1970, amidst
hysteria about the dangers of a new ice age. The media had been
spreading warnings of a cooling period since the 1950s, but those
alarms grew louder in the 1970s.

Three months before, on January 11, The Washington Post told
readers to "get a good grip on your long johns, cold weather haters -
the worst may be yet to come," in an article titled "Colder Winters
Held Dawn of New Ice Age." The article quoted climatologist Reid
Bryson, who said "there's no relief in sight" about the cooling
trend.

Journalists took the threat of another ice age seriously. Fortune
magazine actually won a "Science Writing Award" from the American
Institute of Physics for its own analysis of the danger. "As for the
present cooling trend a number of leading climatologists have
concluded that it is very bad news indeed," Fortune announced in
February 1974.

"It is the root cause of a lot of that unpleasant weather around
the world and they warn that it carries the potential for human
disasters of unprecedented magnitude," the article continued.

That article also emphasized Bryson's extreme doomsday
predictions. "There is very important climatic change going on right
now, and it's not merely something of academic interest."

Bryson warned, "It is something that, if it continues, will
affect the whole human occupation of the earth - like a billion people
starving. The effects are already showing up in a rather drastic way."
However, the world population increased by 2.5 billion since that
warning.

Fortune had been emphasizing the cooling trend for 20 years. In
1954, it picked up on the idea of a frozen earth and ran an article
titled "Climate - the Heat May Be Off."

The story debunked the notion that "despite all you may have
read, heard, or imagined, it's been growing cooler - not warmer -
since the Thirties."

The claims of global catastrophe were remarkably similar to what
the media deliver now about global warming.

"The cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people
in poor nations," wrote Lowell Ponte in his 1976 book "The Cooling."

If the proper measures weren't taken, he cautioned, then the
cooling would lead to "world famine, world chaos, and probably world
war, and this could all come by the year 2000."

There were more warnings. The Nov. 15, 1969, "Science News"
quoted meteorologist Dr. J. Murray Mitchell Jr. about global cooling
worries. "How long the current cooling trend continues is one of the
most important problems of our civilization," he said.

If the cooling continued for 200 to 300 years, the earth could be
plunged into an ice age, Mitchell continued.

Six years later, the periodical reported "the cooling since 1940
has been large enough and consistent enough that it will not soon be
reversed."

A city in a snow globe illustrated that March 1, 1975, article,
while the cover showed an ice age obliterating an unfortunate city.

In 1975, cooling went from "one of the most important problems"
to a first-place tie for "death and misery." "The threat of a new ice
age must now stand alongside nuclear war as a likely source of
wholesale death and misery for mankind," said Nigel Calder, a former
editor of "New Scientist."

He claimed it was not his disposition to be a "doomsday man." His
analysis came from "the facts [that] have emerged" about past ice
ages, according to the July/August International Wildlife Magazine.

The idea of a worldwide deep freeze snowballed.

I do remember;

there was ONE very cold winter; Long Island Sound in New York State
was frozen over.

There were snow flurries in May in New York City..

- But take a look at the sources you quote; Universally journalists.

Journalists make a living by getting their work published..

they entertain that's their job

As they say; No one ever gets a story published by saying

" nothings going to happen"

..- So they go to some wild haired dane who says it's cosmic rays that
create clouds;

Etc.

.. Here's a new bit of errata adding to the discussion..


http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2007/0...070418123 030


On Apr 22, 3:42 pm, Cato wrote:
It's All A Lie.
The Doomsday Prophets never give up. They will disappear for a
while and then come back with something new to scare us with.
And they have legions of "True Believers". Some of them on this
very list as we can see.
I would be really embarrassed to be one of them and shown to be
a fool.

Truth is the world will warm or cool on its own. And it will be
natural, with little or no help from us.
In the last 110 years scientist have warned us about Global Warming,
Global Cooling, Global Warming, Global Cooling, and now Global Warming
again.
How many people remember the scares of the sixties and seventies??
How many of them came true??
Remember all the magazines and newspapers, radio and t.v. reports
that we were headed for disasterous Global Cooling and the return of
an Ice Age?? I remember teachers in school scaring us kids. I had
visions of a huge wall of ice creeping down the North American
continent, crushing the cities. Ocean levels dropping hundreds of
feet. The End Of The World!!!
Science magazine (Dec. 10, 1976) warned of "extensive Northern
Hemisphere glaciation."
Science Digest (February 1973) reported that "the world's
climatologists are agreed" that we must "prepare for the next ice
age."
The Christian Science Monitor ("Warning: Earth's Climate is Changing
Faster Than Even Experts Expect," Aug. 27, 1974) reported that
glaciers "have begun to advance," "growing seasons in England and
Scandinavia are getting shorter" and "the North Atlantic is cooling
down about as fast as an ocean can cool."
Newsweek agreed ("The Cooling World," April 28, 1975) that
meteorologists "are almost unanimous" that catastrophic famines might
result from the global cooling that the
New York Times (Sept. 14, 1975) said "may mark the return to another
ice age." The Times (May 21, 1975) also said "a major cooling of the
climate is widely considered inevitable" now that it is "well
established" that the Northern Hemisphere's climate "has been getting
cooler since about 1950."

Global Cooling: 1954-1976

The ice age is coming, the sun's zooming in
Engines stop running, the wheat is growing thin
A nuclear era, but I have no fear
'Cause London is drowning, and I live by the river
-- The Clash
"London Calling,"
released in 1979

The first Earth Day was celebrated on April 22, 1970, amidst
hysteria about the dangers of a new ice age. The media had been
spreading warnings of a cooling period since the 1950s, but those
alarms grew louder in the 1970s.

Three months before, on January 11, The Washington Post told
readers to "get a good grip on your long johns, cold weather haters -
the worst may be yet to come," in an article titled "Colder Winters
Held Dawn of New Ice Age." The article quoted climatologist Reid
Bryson, who said "there's no relief in sight" about the cooling
trend.

Journalists took the threat of another ice age seriously. Fortune
magazine actually won a "Science Writing Award" from the American
Institute of Physics for its own analysis of the danger. "As for the
present cooling trend a number of leading climatologists have
concluded that it is very bad news indeed," Fortune announced in
February 1974.

"It is the root cause of a lot of that unpleasant weather around
the world and they warn that it carries the potential for human
disasters of unprecedented magnitude," the article continued.

That article also emphasized Bryson's extreme doomsday
predictions. "There is very important climatic change going on right
now, and it's not merely something of academic interest."

Bryson warned, "It is something that, if it continues, will
affect the whole human occupation of the earth - like a billion people
starving. The effects are already showing up in a rather drastic way."
However, the world population increased by 2.5 billion since that
warning.

Fortune had been emphasizing the cooling trend for 20 years. In
1954, it picked up on the idea of a frozen earth and ran an article
titled "Climate - the Heat May Be Off."

The story debunked the notion that "despite all you may have
read, heard, or imagined, it's been growing cooler - not warmer -
since the Thirties."

The claims of global catastrophe were remarkably similar to what
the media deliver now about global warming.

"The cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people
in poor nations," wrote Lowell Ponte in his 1976 book "The Cooling."

If the proper measures weren't taken, he cautioned, then the
cooling would lead to "world famine, world chaos, and probably world
war, and this could all come by the year 2000."

There were more warnings. The Nov. 15, 1969, "Science News"
quoted meteorologist Dr. J. Murray Mitchell Jr. about global cooling
worries. "How long the current cooling trend continues is one of the
most important problems of our civilization," he said.

If the cooling continued for 200 to 300 years, the earth could be
plunged into an ice age, Mitchell continued.

Six years later, the periodical reported "the cooling since 1940
has been large enough and consistent enough that it will not soon be
reversed."

A city in a snow globe illustrated that March 1, 1975, article,
while the cover showed an ice age obliterating an unfortunate city.

In 1975, cooling went from "one of the most important problems"
to a first-place tie for "death and misery." "The threat of a new ice
age must now stand alongside nuclear war as a likely source of
wholesale death and misery for mankind," said Nigel Calder, a former
editor of "New Scientist."

He claimed it was not his disposition to be a "doomsday man." His
analysis came from "the facts [that] have emerged" about past ice
ages, according to the July/August International Wildlife Magazine.

The idea of a worldwide deep freeze snowballed.

http://www.wmconnolley.org.uk/sci/iceage/






On Apr 22, 3:42 pm, Cato wrote:
It's All A Lie.
The Doomsday Prophets never give up. They will disappear for a
while and then come back with something new to scare us with.
And they have legions of "True Believers". Some of them on this
very list as we can see.
I would be really embarrassed to be one of them and shown to be
a fool.

Truth is the world will warm or cool on its own. And it will be
natural, with little or no help from us.
In the last 110 years scientist have warned us about Global Warming,
Global Cooling, Global Warming, Global Cooling, and now Global Warming
again.
How many people remember the scares of the sixties and seventies??
How many of them came true??
Remember all the magazines and newspapers, radio and t.v. reports
that we were headed for disasterous Global Cooling and the return of
an Ice Age?? I remember teachers in school scaring us kids. I had
visions of a huge wall of ice creeping down the North American
continent, crushing the cities. Ocean levels dropping hundreds of
feet. The End Of The World!!!
Science magazine (Dec. 10, 1976) warned of "extensive Northern
Hemisphere glaciation."
Science Digest (February 1973) reported that "the world's
climatologists are agreed" that we must "prepare for the next ice
age."
The Christian Science Monitor ("Warning: Earth's Climate is Changing
Faster Than Even Experts Expect," Aug. 27, 1974) reported that
glaciers "have begun to advance," "growing seasons in England and
Scandinavia are getting shorter" and "the North Atlantic is cooling
down about as fast as an ocean can cool."
Newsweek agreed ("The Cooling World," April 28, 1975) that
meteorologists "are almost unanimous" that catastrophic famines might
result from the global cooling that the
New York Times (Sept. 14, 1975) said "may mark the return to another
ice age." The Times (May 21, 1975) also said "a major cooling of the
climate is widely considered inevitable" now that it is "well
established" that the Northern Hemisphere's climate "has been getting
cooler since about 1950."

Global Cooling: 1954-1976

The ice age is coming, the sun's zooming in
Engines stop running, the wheat is growing thin
A nuclear era, but I have no fear
'Cause London is drowning, and I live by the river
-- The Clash
"London Calling,"
released in 1979

The first Earth Day was celebrated on April 22, 1970, amidst
hysteria about the dangers of a new ice age. The media had been
spreading warnings of a cooling period since the 1950s, but those
alarms grew louder in the 1970s.

Three months before, on January 11, The Washington Post told
readers to "get a good grip on your long johns, cold weather haters -
the worst may be yet to come," in an article titled "Colder Winters
Held Dawn of New Ice Age." The article quoted climatologist Reid
Bryson, who said "there's no relief in sight" about the cooling
trend.

Journalists took the threat of another ice age seriously. Fortune
magazine actually won a "Science Writing Award" from the American
Institute of Physics for its own analysis of the danger. "As for the
present cooling trend a number of leading climatologists have
concluded that it is very bad news indeed," Fortune announced in
February 1974.

"It is the root cause of a lot of that unpleasant weather around
the world and they warn that it carries the potential for human
disasters of unprecedented magnitude," the article continued.

That article also emphasized Bryson's extreme doomsday
predictions. "There is very important climatic change going on right
now, and it's not merely something of academic interest."

Bryson warned, "It is something that, if it continues, will
affect the whole human occupation of the earth - like a billion people
starving. The effects are already showing up in a rather drastic way."
However, the world population increased by 2.5 billion since that
warning.

Fortune had been emphasizing the cooling trend for 20 years. In
1954, it picked up on the idea of a frozen earth and ran an article
titled "Climate - the Heat May Be Off."

The story debunked the notion that "despite all you may have
read, heard, or imagined, it's been growing cooler - not warmer -
since the Thirties."

The claims of global catastrophe were remarkably similar to what
the media deliver now about global warming.

"The cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people
in poor nations," wrote Lowell Ponte in his 1976 book "The Cooling."

If the proper measures weren't taken, he cautioned, then the
cooling would lead to "world famine, world chaos, and probably world
war, and this could all come by the year 2000."

There were more warnings. The Nov. 15, 1969, "Science News"
quoted meteorologist Dr. J. Murray Mitchell Jr. about global cooling
worries. "How long the current cooling trend continues is one of the
most important problems of our civilization," he said.

If the cooling continued for 200 to 300 years, the earth could be
plunged into an ice age, Mitchell continued.

Six years later, the periodical reported "the cooling since 1940
has been large enough and consistent enough that it will not soon be
reversed."

A city in a snow globe illustrated that March 1, 1975, article,
while the cover showed an ice age obliterating an unfortunate city.

In 1975, cooling went from "one of the most important problems"
to a first-place tie for "death and misery." "The threat of a new ice
age must now stand alongside nuclear war as a likely source of
wholesale death and misery for mankind," said Nigel Calder, a former
editor of "New Scientist."

He claimed it was not his disposition to be a "doomsday man." His
analysis came from "the facts [that] have emerged" about past ice
ages, according to the July/August International Wildlife Magazine.

The idea of a worldwide deep freeze snowballed.

On 22 Apr 2007 12:42:37 -0700, Cato wrote:

This theory of rapid climate change is called the “conveyor belt
theory,” and though many scientists do not yet agree with it, the
paleoclimate record found in ocean sediment cores is beginning to
support it. Recent paleoclimate studies have shown that when heat
circulation in the North Atlantic Ocean slowed in the past, the
climate changed in Northern Europe. Although the last ice age peaked
about 20,000 years ago, the warming trend was interrupted at various
points by cold spells. In a paper published in Nature on April 22,
2004, McManus and colleagues Roger Francois, Jeanne Gherardi, Lloyd
Keigwin and Susan Brown-Leger at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute
and the Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’environnement in
France showed that cold periods in Europe 17,500 and 12,700 years ago
happened just after melting ice diluted the salty North Atlantic
water, and the ocean “conveyor belt” slowed. The evidence, which they
took from radioactive elements in ocean cores, is beginning to support
the theory, but McManus cautions that there are still pieces to fill
in before we fully understand what role the conveyor belt played in
past climate change and what role it might play in the future.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Stu...vidence_2.html

On Apr 22, 2:26 pm, David wrote:
On 22 Apr 2007 12:42:37 -0700, Cato wrote:

This theory of rapid climate change is called the "conveyor belt
theory," and though many scientists do not yet agree with it, the
paleoclimate record found in ocean sediment cores is beginning to
support it. Recent paleoclimate studies have shown that when heat
circulation in the North Atlantic Ocean slowed in the past, the
climate changed in Northern Europe. Although the last ice age peaked
about 20,000 years ago, the warming trend was interrupted at various
points by cold spells. In a paper published in Nature on April 22,
2004, McManus and colleagues Roger Francois, Jeanne Gherardi, Lloyd
Keigwin and Susan Brown-Leger at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute
and the Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l'environnement in
France showed that cold periods in Europe 17,500 and 12,700 years ago
happened just after melting ice diluted the salty North Atlantic
water, and the ocean "conveyor belt" slowed. The evidence, which they
took from radioactive elements in ocean cores, is beginning to support
the theory, but McManus cautions that there are still pieces to fill
in before we fully understand what role the conveyor belt played in
past climate change and what role it might play in the future.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Stu..._Evidence/pale...

David - Scientist - Some Do and Some Don't Believe
in the ? Scientific ? Basis ? for Claims of Mankind
Being the Primary Cause of Global Warming ~ RHF

TELLING THE TRUTH - "The Great Global Warming Swindle"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...31355859226455

In article .com,
Cato wrote:

barnega wrote:

Journalists make a living by getting their work published..
they entertain that's their job. As they say; No one ever gets a
story published by saying " nothings going to happen"


Cato replys: And just where were these journalists getting their
info from? Are you saying that Science Digest, Science Magazine, The
Christian Science Monitor, Newsweek, The New York Times, The
Washington Post, Science News, etc. etc. including, yes, teachers in
the schools, were all pulling a "fast one" on everybody back then?
It was all lies? A conspiracy put together by those publications? Are
these publications no better then the Weekly World News rag??

If they were all proved to be liars, then they would have been
raked over the coals, their reputations destroyed, and relegated to
the level of cheap supermarket tabloids.
Never happened.

Do you realize they were getting there info from.. wait for it...
scientists?

Do you remember this?..... Fortune magazine actually won a
"Science Writing Award" from the
American Institute of Physics for its own analysis of the danger.

"As for the present cooling trend a number of leading climatologists
have concluded that it is very bad news indeed,".... Fortune
Magazine, February, 1974.

That's right..... The American Institute of Physics,
(Scientists), awarded Fortune magazine for what?? Telling us all a
lie?? As if they were not better then the Weekly World News rag???
Global warming proponents are accepting a good financial
income from the global warming scare and have become global warming
propagandists to promote their interests. These include some
researchers who obtain research grants and some environmental
organisations who need donations. They are making a living by
promoting fear of man-made global warming. They have a vested
interest in pulling this scam. And not just because of the money
involved, but also because many of them have political goals that
depend on the Man- Made Global Warming Scare.
Vaclav Klaus, president of the Czech Republic, said in written
testimony that global warming has turned into a religion that has
replaced the ideology of communism and threatens basic freedoms. Mr.
Klaus said the push to curb greenhouse gases would hurt poorer
nations that can't afford modern technology. He compares radical
environmentalists to Marxists, and says initiatives such as the Kyoto
Protocol require enormous costs without any realistic prospect for
success.

Global warming is just a fad. Wait a few years and we will be back to
global cooling because man cut back on CO2 to much.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Apr 24, 6:02 am, David wrote:
On 22 Apr 2007 15:58:31 -0700, RHF wrote:



David - Scientist - Some Do and Some Don't Believe
in the ? Scientific ? Basis ? for Claims of Mankind
Being the Primary Cause of Global Warming ~ RHF

That doesn't matter. The question is can the women make it better...

David - Hillary is NOT the Answer ~ RHF

In article ,
David wrote:

On 22 Apr 2007 15:58:31 -0700, RHF wrote:



David - Scientist - Some Do and Some Don't Believe
in the ? Scientific ? Basis ? for Claims of Mankind
Being the Primary Cause of Global Warming ~ RHF

That doesn't matter. The question is can the women make it better...

A man is the problem not men.

The primary cause of global warming is Al Gore.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California