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I have a fairly large amount of insulated copper wire, that is solid.
My Sony ICF-7600GR, has an external antenna jack that is just
basically a headphone jack with it's connector. Isn't it possibly just
to put this insulated wire on a 1/8 jack and make fairly ok antenna? I
guess you can't just use any end, I used one from an old pair of
headphones that broke for the heck of it to test and it barely got any
signal in. Am I wrong about using copper wire like this?

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I have a fairly large amount of insulated copper wire, that is solid.
My Sony ICF-7600GR, has an external antenna jack that is just
basically a headphone jack with it's connector. Isn't it possibly just
to put this insulated wire on a 1/8 jack and make fairly ok antenna?


Yes but it needs to be a mono jack with two conductors tip and barrel.

Connect the wire to the jack tip for a single wire antenna.

I guess you can't just use any end, I used one from an old pair of
headphones that broke for the heck of it to test and it barely got
any signal in. Am I wrong about using copper wire like this?


If you want something better use two wires, one to the barrel and the
other to the tip. Stretch the wires in opposite directions and you have
a dipole. Make sure they don't short to each other inside the jack.

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Ventura, California
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On May 20, 7:13 pm, Telamon
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RedPenguin wrote:
I have a fairly large amount of insulated copper wire, that is solid.
My Sony ICF-7600GR, has an external antenna jack that is just
basically a headphone jack with it's connector. Isn't it possibly just
to put this insulated wire on a 1/8 jack and make fairly ok antenna?


Yes but it needs to be a mono jack with two conductors tip and barrel.

Connect the wire to the jack tip for a single wire antenna.

I guess you can't just use any end, I used one from an old pair of
headphones that broke for the heck of it to test and it barely got
any signal in. Am I wrong about using copper wire like this?


If you want something better use two wires, one to the barrel and the
other to the tip. Stretch the wires in opposite directions and you have
a dipole. Make sure they don't short to each other inside the jack.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


Can you just buy those ends anywhere? I never heard of a tip and
barrel, but I guess I can maybe find them at Radio Shack.

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On May 20, 7:13 pm, Telamon
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RedPenguin wrote:
I have a fairly large amount of insulated copper wire, that is solid.
My Sony ICF-7600GR, has an external antenna jack that is just
basically a headphone jack with it's connector. Isn't it possibly just
to put this insulated wire on a 1/8 jack and make fairly ok antenna?


Yes but it needs to be a mono jack with two conductors tip and barrel.

Connect the wire to the jack tip for a single wire antenna.

I guess you can't just use any end, I used one from an old pair of
headphones that broke for the heck of it to test and it barely got
any signal in. Am I wrong about using copper wire like this?


If you want something better use two wires, one to the barrel and the
other to the tip. Stretch the wires in opposite directions and you have
a dipole. Make sure they don't short to each other inside the jack.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


If it ever gets a short, it will not damage the radio, at least
permanently right? I mean since it's not like electricity going
through or something, right?

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RedPenguin wrote:

On May 20, 7:13 pm, Telamon
wrote:
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RedPenguin wrote:
I have a fairly large amount of insulated copper wire, that is solid.
My Sony ICF-7600GR, has an external antenna jack that is just
basically a headphone jack with it's connector. Isn't it possibly just
to put this insulated wire on a 1/8 jack and make fairly ok antenna?


Yes but it needs to be a mono jack with two conductors tip and barrel.

Connect the wire to the jack tip for a single wire antenna.

I guess you can't just use any end, I used one from an old pair of
headphones that broke for the heck of it to test and it barely got
any signal in. Am I wrong about using copper wire like this?


If you want something better use two wires, one to the barrel and the
other to the tip. Stretch the wires in opposite directions and you have
a dipole. Make sure they don't short to each other inside the jack.


Can you just buy those ends anywhere? I never heard of a tip and
barrel, but I guess I can maybe find them at Radio Shack.


I have given you the wrong idea. The tip and barrel are descriptors of
the same plug. The stereo head phone jack you used is a barrel contact,
a ring, then a tip. Examine the stereo headphone jack you have and you
will see that there are three contacts (metal areas) separated by two
insulators. You only need two contacts, a tip and barrel. The plug you
need will be the same size but only have the two contacts missing the
small ring contact.

The antenna jack is meant to power a small external antenna that Sony
sells so you do not want to short the two contacts of the jack. Use
insulated wire.

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Telamon
Ventura, California


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RedPenguin wrote:

On May 20, 7:13 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article . com,

RedPenguin wrote:
I have a fairly large amount of insulated copper wire, that is solid.
My Sony ICF-7600GR, has an external antenna jack that is just
basically a headphone jack with it's connector. Isn't it possibly just
to put this insulated wire on a 1/8 jack and make fairly ok antenna?


Yes but it needs to be a mono jack with two conductors tip and barrel.

Connect the wire to the jack tip for a single wire antenna.

I guess you can't just use any end, I used one from an old pair of
headphones that broke for the heck of it to test and it barely got
any signal in. Am I wrong about using copper wire like this?


If you want something better use two wires, one to the barrel and the
other to the tip. Stretch the wires in opposite directions and you have
a dipole. Make sure they don't short to each other inside the jack.


If it ever gets a short, it will not damage the radio, at least
permanently right? I mean since it's not like electricity going
through or something, right?


The jack is meant to power a small external antenna amplifier that Sony
sells so don't short the two contacts in the jack.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California
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On May 20, 10:25 pm, Telamon
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RedPenguin wrote:
On May 20, 7:13 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article . com,


RedPenguin wrote:
I have a fairly large amount of insulated copper wire, that is solid.
My Sony ICF-7600GR, has an external antenna jack that is just
basically a headphone jack with it's connector. Isn't it possibly just
to put this insulated wire on a 1/8 jack and make fairly ok antenna?


Yes but it needs to be a mono jack with two conductors tip and barrel.


Connect the wire to the jack tip for a single wire antenna.


I guess you can't just use any end, I used one from an old pair of
headphones that broke for the heck of it to test and it barely got
any signal in. Am I wrong about using copper wire like this?


If you want something better use two wires, one to the barrel and the
other to the tip. Stretch the wires in opposite directions and you have
a dipole. Make sure they don't short to each other inside the jack.


If it ever gets a short, it will not damage the radio, at least
permanently right? I mean since it's not like electricity going
through or something, right?


The jack is meant to power a small external antenna amplifier that Sony
sells so don't short the two contacts in the jack.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


Though, will it ever damage the radio?

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On May 20, 10:25 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article . com,



RedPenguin wrote:
On May 20, 7:13 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article . com,


RedPenguin wrote:
I have a fairly large amount of insulated copper wire, that is solid.
My Sony ICF-7600GR, has an external antenna jack that is just
basically a headphone jack with it's connector. Isn't it possibly just
to put this insulated wire on a 1/8 jack and make fairly ok antenna?


Yes but it needs to be a mono jack with two conductors tip and barrel.


Connect the wire to the jack tip for a single wire antenna.


I guess you can't just use any end, I used one from an old pair of
headphones that broke for the heck of it to test and it barely got
any signal in. Am I wrong about using copper wire like this?


If you want something better use two wires, one to the barrel and the
other to the tip. Stretch the wires in opposite directions and you have
a dipole. Make sure they don't short to each other inside the jack.


If it ever gets a short, it will not damage the radio, at least
permanently right? I mean since it's not like electricity going
through or something, right?


The jack is meant to power a small external antenna amplifier that Sony
sells so don't short the two contacts in the jack.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


Also, does connecting the tip and barrel connections together cause a
short resulting in damage or only something temporary?

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In article om,
RedPenguin wrote:

On May 20, 10:25 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article . com,



RedPenguin wrote:
On May 20, 7:13 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article . com,


RedPenguin wrote:
I have a fairly large amount of insulated copper wire, that is solid.
My Sony ICF-7600GR, has an external antenna jack that is just
basically a headphone jack with it's connector. Isn't it possibly just
to put this insulated wire on a 1/8 jack and make fairly ok antenna?


Yes but it needs to be a mono jack with two conductors tip and barrel.


Connect the wire to the jack tip for a single wire antenna.


I guess you can't just use any end, I used one from an old pair of
headphones that broke for the heck of it to test and it barely got
any signal in. Am I wrong about using copper wire like this?


If you want something better use two wires, one to the barrel and the
other to the tip. Stretch the wires in opposite directions and you have
a dipole. Make sure they don't short to each other inside the jack.


If it ever gets a short, it will not damage the radio, at least
permanently right? I mean since it's not like electricity going
through or something, right?


The jack is meant to power a small external antenna amplifier that Sony
sells so don't short the two contacts in the jack.


Though, will it ever damage the radio?


That I don't know.

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Telamon
Ventura, California
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In article om,
RedPenguin wrote:

On May 20, 10:25 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article . com,



RedPenguin wrote:
On May 20, 7:13 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article . com,


RedPenguin wrote:
I have a fairly large amount of insulated copper wire, that is solid.
My Sony ICF-7600GR, has an external antenna jack that is just
basically a headphone jack with it's connector. Isn't it possibly just
to put this insulated wire on a 1/8 jack and make fairly ok antenna?


Yes but it needs to be a mono jack with two conductors tip and barrel.


Connect the wire to the jack tip for a single wire antenna.


I guess you can't just use any end, I used one from an old pair of
headphones that broke for the heck of it to test and it barely got
any signal in. Am I wrong about using copper wire like this?


If you want something better use two wires, one to the barrel and the
other to the tip. Stretch the wires in opposite directions and you have
a dipole. Make sure they don't short to each other inside the jack.


If it ever gets a short, it will not damage the radio, at least
permanently right? I mean since it's not like electricity going
through or something, right?


The jack is meant to power a small external antenna amplifier that Sony
sells so don't short the two contacts in the jack.


Though, will it ever damage the radio?


I don't know if the voltage source in the radio is sufficiently self
protecting or not.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California
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