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I have been listening to the Voice of Russia, but lately it seems it's
being jammed. There's an annoying chirp sound right on top of the
frequency. Is it the U.S. jamming them? Or is it just propagation? The
chirping sound makes it hard to listen to them. Thanks. Jacob

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Jacob Shank wrote:

I have been listening to the Voice of Russia, but lately it seems it's
being jammed. There's an annoying chirp sound right on top of the
frequency. Is it the U.S. jamming them? Or is it just propagation? The
chirping sound makes it hard to listen to them. Thanks. Jacob


What time? What frequency? Where are you located and what receiving equipment
are you using?


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On May 21, 8:02 pm, (Jacob Shank) wrote:
I have been listening to the Voice of Russia, but lately it seems it's
being jammed. There's an annoying chirp sound right on top of the
frequency. Is it the U.S. jamming them? Or is it just propagation? The
chirping sound makes it hard to listen to them. Thanks. Jacob


Dear Mr. Shank,

No one is intentionally jamming the Voice of Russia World Service, at
least in the United States, and certainly at your location. Have you
been listening to shortwave for a long time? Your comments, regarding
Coordinated Universal Time and the Meter Band/Frequency readout on
your radio indicate to me that you may be new to the hobby.

The Voice of Russia World Service transmits to the United States
starting at 0100 UTC (which corresponds to 9:00 PM EDT and 7:00 PM
MDT). Their broadcasts continue until 0500 UTC and they use a few
frequencies in the 31-meter band and the 22-meter band. Please note
that there are no world band transmissions at all between 14900 kHz
(14.9 MHz or mc/s) and 14995 kHz and, of course, none by the Voice of
Russia. WWV (Time Signal) broadcasts on 15000 kHz and is, of course,
instantly recognizable.

VOR's signal quality is variable. Some nights the transmissions are of
"local" quality but other nights they are weak, often with extreme
fades. Some frequencies come in better than others. But, at least at
my location in southern New Jersey, the signals are always "in the
clear."

If, in fact, you are actually hearing something around 14.9 MHz, it
may be some sort of "image," in which case you may be hearing this
image at or near a utility transmission. This might explain the
"chirping" sound you note.

Have you had your radio for a long time? Was it purchased new at the
time? It is possible that the radio, especially if bought "used," may
be in need of some service.

Check http://www.primetimeshortwave.com and http://www.wrth.com
for the latest English-language broadcast schedules. VOR's schedules

can be found he http://www.ruvr.ru/main.php?lng=eng&w=129&p= .

With all due respect, if you are interested in the shortwave hobby
(for news, political commentary, entertainment, or whatever), I
STRONGLY suggest that you purchase a few books on the subject.
PASSPORT TO WORLD BAND RADIO, and the WORLD RADIO-TV HANDBOOK (WRTH)
are two yearly publications which will give you a very good overview
and extremely useful information regarding listening to world band
transmissions. There are a number of other books on the varying
aspects of the subject as well, many good ones of which are available
at Universal Radio http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/book1.html
.


I like listening to the Voice of Russia too. Their "Jazz Show,"
Fridays at 0230 (Thursday evenings at 10:30 PM EDT - 8:30 PM MDT) is a
particular favorite of mine, as are their various classical music
shows. "Moscow Mailbag" is just about everyone's favorite!

I hope the above was of some use to you.

Best,

Joe


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If you look at the H500 dial it is an "airplane" dial. He is looking at the
wrong end of the pointer. When one end is pointing to 14.9-15 the other end
is pointing to 9.4-9.5. VOR definitely transmits in that band at the time
mentioned.

The H500 dial is not the most clearly marked.

Tony

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On May 21, 8:02 pm, (Jacob Shank) wrote:
I have been listening to the Voice of Russia, but lately it seems it's
being jammed. There's an annoying chirp sound right on top of the
frequency. Is it the U.S. jamming them? Or is it just propagation? The
chirping sound makes it hard to listen to them. Thanks. Jacob


Dear Mr. Shank,

No one is intentionally jamming the Voice of Russia World Service, at
least in the United States, and certainly at your location. Have you
been listening to shortwave for a long time? Your comments, regarding
Coordinated Universal Time and the Meter Band/Frequency readout on
your radio indicate to me that you may be new to the hobby.

The Voice of Russia World Service transmits to the United States
starting at 0100 UTC (which corresponds to 9:00 PM EDT and 7:00 PM
MDT). Their broadcasts continue until 0500 UTC and they use a few
frequencies in the 31-meter band and the 22-meter band. Please note
that there are no world band transmissions at all between 14900 kHz
(14.9 MHz or mc/s) and 14995 kHz and, of course, none by the Voice of
Russia. WWV (Time Signal) broadcasts on 15000 kHz and is, of course,
instantly recognizable.

VOR's signal quality is variable. Some nights the transmissions are of
"local" quality but other nights they are weak, often with extreme
fades. Some frequencies come in better than others. But, at least at
my location in southern New Jersey, the signals are always "in the
clear."

If, in fact, you are actually hearing something around 14.9 MHz, it
may be some sort of "image," in which case you may be hearing this
image at or near a utility transmission. This might explain the
"chirping" sound you note.

Have you had your radio for a long time? Was it purchased new at the
time? It is possible that the radio, especially if bought "used," may
be in need of some service.

Check http://www.primetimeshortwave.com and http://www.wrth.com
for the latest English-language broadcast schedules. VOR's schedules

can be found he http://www.ruvr.ru/main.php?lng=eng&w=129&p= .

With all due respect, if you are interested in the shortwave hobby
(for news, political commentary, entertainment, or whatever), I
STRONGLY suggest that you purchase a few books on the subject.
PASSPORT TO WORLD BAND RADIO, and the WORLD RADIO-TV HANDBOOK (WRTH)
are two yearly publications which will give you a very good overview
and extremely useful information regarding listening to world band
transmissions. There are a number of other books on the varying
aspects of the subject as well, many good ones of which are available
at Universal Radio http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/book1.html
.


I like listening to the Voice of Russia too. Their "Jazz Show,"
Fridays at 0230 (Thursday evenings at 10:30 PM EDT - 8:30 PM MDT) is a
particular favorite of mine, as are their various classical music
shows. "Moscow Mailbag" is just about everyone's favorite!

I hope the above was of some use to you.

Best,

Joe





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On May 23, 6:08 pm, "TonyC" wrote:
If you look at the H500 dial it is an "airplane" dial. He is looking at the
wrong end of the pointer. When one end is pointing to 14.9-15 the other end
is pointing to 9.4-9.5. VOR definitely transmits in that band at the time
mentioned.

The H500 dial is not the most clearly marked.


I collected antique tube radios for a number of years, and I never
understood how people in the 1930s and 1940s could NOT be driven
absolutely bonkers by many of the "decorative" airplane dials common
on many of those radios. I am not familiar with the radio in question,
but I have seen PLENTY of confusing dials. I never actually tried to
listen to shortwave on any of my stuff, just AM (usually called "BC"
or something similar).

I can't imagine sitting at home in 1940 or so, with huge headphones
on, desperately trying to find Berlin, Tokyo, or London at the same
place on a poorly marked and designed analog dial where it MIGHT have
been the night before, with images galore and tube drift too. Yikes.
Maybe that was part of the fun, and the advent of $50 all digital
appliance radios and reliable station lists took the fun out of
shortwave and led to its decline (along with satellites and the
attendant expectation of static free video from war zones on demand).

Even DXing on the transistorized analog radios common in the 1960s
must have been crazy. I have a GE World Monitor and 6-18 Mhz is
squeezed onto a very small dial-on one band labeled "SW". Not even
Tecsun, which makes the windup analog SW radio, is that nuts.



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American Insurgent wrote:

On May 23, 6:08 pm, "TonyC" wrote:
If you look at the H500 dial it is an "airplane" dial. He is looking at the
wrong end of the pointer. When one end is pointing to 14.9-15 the other end
is pointing to 9.4-9.5. VOR definitely transmits in that band at the time
mentioned.

The H500 dial is not the most clearly marked.


I collected antique tube radios for a number of years, and I never
understood how people in the 1930s and 1940s could NOT be driven
absolutely bonkers by many of the "decorative" airplane dials common
on many of those radios. I am not familiar with the radio in question,
but I have seen PLENTY of confusing dials. I never actually tried to
listen to shortwave on any of my stuff, just AM (usually called "BC"
or something similar).



That was a popular style at the time. "Industrial"


I can't imagine sitting at home in 1940 or so, with huge headphones
on, desperately trying to find Berlin, Tokyo, or London at the same
place on a poorly marked and designed analog dial where it MIGHT have
been the night before, with images galore and tube drift too. Yikes.
Maybe that was part of the fun, and the advent of $50 all digital
appliance radios and reliable station lists took the fun out of
shortwave and led to its decline (along with satellites and the
attendant expectation of static free video from war zones on demand).

Even DXing on the transistorized analog radios common in the 1960s
must have been crazy. I have a GE World Monitor and 6-18 Mhz is
squeezed onto a very small dial-on one band labeled "SW". Not even
Tecsun, which makes the windup analog SW radio, is that nuts.



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prove it.
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"American Insurgent" wrote in message
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On May 23, 6:08 pm, "TonyC" wrote:
If you look at the H500 dial it is an "airplane" dial. He is looking at

the
wrong end of the pointer. When one end is pointing to 14.9-15 the other

end
is pointing to 9.4-9.5. VOR definitely transmits in that band at the

time
mentioned.

The H500 dial is not the most clearly marked.


I collected antique tube radios for a number of years, and I never
understood how people in the 1930s and 1940s could NOT be driven
absolutely bonkers by many of the "decorative" airplane dials common
on many of those radios. I am not familiar with the radio in question,
but I have seen PLENTY of confusing dials. I never actually tried to
listen to shortwave on any of my stuff, just AM (usually called "BC"
or something similar).

I can't imagine sitting at home in 1940 or so, with huge headphones
on, desperately trying to find Berlin, Tokyo, or London at the same
place on a poorly marked and designed analog dial where it MIGHT have
been the night before, with images galore and tube drift too. Yikes.


Oh man, that is the epitomy of nirvana for an old guy like me.

Maybe that was part of the fun, and the advent of $50 all digital
appliance radios and reliable station lists took the fun out of
shortwave and led to its decline (along with satellites and the
attendant expectation of static free video from war zones on demand).

Even DXing on the transistorized analog radios common in the 1960s
must have been crazy. I have a GE World Monitor and 6-18 Mhz is
squeezed onto a very small dial-on one band labeled "SW". Not even
Tecsun, which makes the windup analog SW radio, is that nuts.

They don't make um like they used to, fortunately/unfortunately.
B


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I collected antique tube radios for a number of years, and I never
understood how people in the 1930s and 1940s could NOT be driven
absolutely bonkers by many of the "decorative" airplane dials common
on many of those radios. I am not familiar with the radio in question,
but I have seen PLENTY of confusing dials. I never actually tried to
listen to shortwave on any of my stuff, just AM (usually called "BC"
or something similar).


One of the best tuning systems I ever saw
was on an old GRUNO ( 1930s? ) console radio.
( I think the old ZENITHS used a similar system )

The tuning dial was arranged like a clock face.
There were two pointers.... an "hour" and a 'minute" hand.
..... and it tuned just like a clock mechanism.

On Shortwave, you didn't have to remember a specific frequency.
Just that BBC came in on "twenty to four"...
or that Cuba came in on "five after nine".

Made it easy to keep a log of stations too.

rj
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I have a few push button radios.I hate push buttons.(except for
''certain kinds'' of ''push buttons''.
cuhulin

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On May 31, 3:55 pm, "RJ" wrote:
I collected antique tube radios for a number of years, and I never
understood how people in the 1930s and 1940s could NOT be driven
absolutely bonkers by many of the "decorative" airplane dials common
on many of those radios. I am not familiar with the radio in question,
but I have seen PLENTY of confusing dials. I never actually tried to
listen to shortwave on any of my stuff, just AM (usually called "BC"
or something similar).


One of the best tuning systems I ever saw
was on an old GRUNO ( 1930s? ) console radio.
( I think the old ZENITHS used a similar system )

The tuning dial was arranged like a clock face.
There were two pointers.... an "hour" and a 'minute" hand.
.... and it tuned just like a clock mechanism.

On Shortwave, you didn't have to remember a specific frequency.
Just that BBC came in on "twenty to four"...
or that Cuba came in on "five after nine".

Made it easy to keep a log of stations too.

rj



Yeah, it was Grunow who made the clock face dial, they called it a
"teledial" or something similar. I've only seen those in ads, not even
in the days when antique stores were loaded with quality old radios
did you ever see Grunows. I don't think Grunow sold very many of those
things, they were just too weird for 1940 America.

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