In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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Ibiquity sets the price of their chipsets. If radio sales remain dead
in
the water, they might decide they need a new game plan. Selling the
chips
cheap might encourage most of the rest of the broadcasters to buy and
license broadcast equipment from ibiquity.

Several fabs will be selling chipsets in Q1, starting with Samsung, at
low
prices and in power saving designs capable of making competitive
protables
possible... iBiquity is in the development, not the chip business. The
license fees are not as high as people think for the third party fabs.


You do not understand the semiconductor business.

You are making illusions to "low power" designs that are false.

Radio World ran some "battery life" comparisons of a first generation HD
chip to the design spec consumption of the Samsung chip.... 10 times more
"on time" than the early chip, and acceptable comparisons to consumption for
analog signal reception. To the consumer, it's about how long the batteries
will last, not formulae.

I don't know what you mean by "on time" in relation to power
consumption. If you meant that the new chip set consumes 1/10 the power
that I could understand, but regardless the comparison should be the new
chip set to a comparable analog radio and cost by the way.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"Telamon" wrote in message
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Alright then the amount of time the radio plays. That comment didn't
quite fit in with semiconductor chip sets.

So can you point me to a HD portable that runs off batteries? Far as I
can see there are none.

Your reading comprehension really bites, doesn't it? I have said multiple
times that there will be a minimum of two and as many as 4 low power
consumption HD chips shipping in Q1 of 2008; these will enable portables and
boom boxes of all sizes and we should see the first in Q2 or Q3 of 2008.

David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as the faux Hispanic, 'Eduardo', wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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Alright then the amount of time the radio plays. That comment didn't
quite fit in with semiconductor chip sets.

So can you point me to a HD portable that runs off batteries? Far as I
can see there are none.

Your reading comprehension really bites, doesn't it? I have said multiple
times that there will be a minimum of two and as many as 4 low power
consumption HD chips shipping in Q1 of 2008; these will enable portables and
boom boxes of all sizes and we should see the first in Q2 or Q3 of 2008.

2008! Damn, time sure has flown by since you adopted the 'Eduardo' shtick back in
2000.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Don't do business with the Huntington Investment Company, or with Univision!

On Sep 22, 3:13 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

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Alright then the amount of time the radio plays. That comment didn't
quite fit in with semiconductor chip sets.

So can you point me to a HD portable that runs off batteries? Far as I
can see there are none.

Your reading comprehension really bites, doesn't it? I have said multiple
times that there will be a minimum of two and as many as 4 low power
consumption HD chips shipping in Q1 of 2008; these will enable portables and
boom boxes of all sizes and we should see the first in Q2 or Q3 of 2008.

d'Eduardo -but- At What Price Range ?

We are talking an AM/FM Radio that happens to be "HD"
and the 'Average-Joe' Radio Listener is not going to pay
Big Bucks for what he considers an AM/FM Radio.

Here are three AM/FM Radios that I bought in the last year.

Sony ICFS10MK2 Pocket AM/FM Radio ~$11
http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4030071

Panasonic RF-2400 AM / FM Radio ~$17
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00007KDX6/

Sangean DT-200VX 'Pocket" Radio ~$65
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...alty/4117.html

ALL UNDER $100 and TWO UNDER $25

"HD" Radios Won't Sell -If- They Cost Too Much !

I Ask Myself : What IBOC ?
All I See Is The Blinking Blue Light ! ~ RHF
In the Distant Land Where IBOC Fears To Go :
Life Exists and Radio Listeners Live Beyond the 10mv/m Contour.

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

Alright then the amount of time the radio plays. That comment didn't
quite fit in with semiconductor chip sets.

So can you point me to a HD portable that runs off batteries? Far as I
can see there are none.

Your reading comprehension really bites, doesn't it? I have said multiple
times that there will be a minimum of two and as many as 4 low power
consumption HD chips shipping in Q1 of 2008; these will enable portables and
boom boxes of all sizes and we should see the first in Q2 or Q3 of 2008.

Nothing wrong with my reading comprehension since I did not read those
posts bozo. The posts I read spoke of portables back in 2006. It's not
going to happen in 2008 either due to current demand required to support
the processing needed for HD.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

Alright then the amount of time the radio plays. That comment didn't
quite fit in with semiconductor chip sets.

So can you point me to a HD portable that runs off batteries? Far as I
can see there are none.

Your reading comprehension really bites, doesn't it? I have said multiple
times that there will be a minimum of two and as many as 4 low power
consumption HD chips shipping in Q1 of 2008; these will enable portables
and
boom boxes of all sizes and we should see the first in Q2 or Q3 of 2008.

Nothing wrong with my reading comprehension since I did not read those
posts bozo. The posts I read spoke of portables back in 2006. It's not
going to happen in 2008 either due to current demand required to support
the processing needed for HD.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Those things should be really good on batteries... as there is no 'current
demand' for them.

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

Alright then the amount of time the radio plays. That comment didn't
quite fit in with semiconductor chip sets.

So can you point me to a HD portable that runs off batteries? Far as I
can see there are none.

Your reading comprehension really bites, doesn't it? I have said multiple
times that there will be a minimum of two and as many as 4 low power
consumption HD chips shipping in Q1 of 2008; these will enable portables
and
boom boxes of all sizes and we should see the first in Q2 or Q3 of 2008.

Nothing wrong with my reading comprehension since I did not read those
posts bozo. The posts I read spoke of portables back in 2006.

Nobody with any actual knowledge thought there would be portables in 2006.
In a luncheon address to the Program Directors and Managers I work with, in
2005, the CEO of iBiquity stated that there was no chip capable of portable
usage and that there were no portables in the immediate future. This was the
story everyone in the industry heard, so nobody in radio was talking about
portables in '06 as there were none, none were planned and the HD system was
not even approved..

First, the FCC had not approved HD. No company was going to take the risk of
spending on a chip design which would be useless if the FCC did not approve;
many were worried the FCC might change the standard, requiring chip
revisions. Now, they can safely proceed.

The moist significant development is the entry of Samsung, the largest
consumer electronics company in the world. This pretty much guarantees lower
prices and broad availability of chips and, consequently, radios.

On Sep 22, 5:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

Alright then the amount of time the radio plays. That comment didn't
quite fit in with semiconductor chip sets.

So can you point me to a HD portable that runs off batteries? Far as I
can see there are none.

Your reading comprehension really bites, doesn't it? I have said multiple
times that there will be a minimum of two and as many as 4 low power
consumption HD chips shipping in Q1 of 2008; these will enable portables
and
boom boxes of all sizes and we should see the first in Q2 or Q3 of 2008.

Nothing wrong with my reading comprehension since I did not read those
posts bozo. The posts I read spoke of portables back in 2006.

Nobody with any actual knowledge thought there would be portables in 2006.
In a luncheon address to the Program Directors and Managers I work with, in
2005, the CEO of iBiquity stated that there was no chip capable of portable
usage and that there were no portables in the immediate future. This was the
story everyone in the industry heard, so nobody in radio was talking about
portables in '06 as there were none, none were planned and the HD system was
not even approved..

First, the FCC had not approved HD. No company was going to take the risk of
spending on a chip design which would be useless if the FCC did not approve;
many were worried the FCC might change the standard, requiring chip
revisions. Now, they can safely proceed.

The moist significant development is the entry of Samsung, the largest
consumer electronics company in the world. This pretty much guarantees lower
prices and broad availability of chips and, consequently, radios.- Hide quoted text -

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d'Eduardo,

IMHO - "HD" AM & FM Radio will Live or Die : If-and-When
there are "HD" AM & FM Radios in Every Car and Truck :

When will there be OEM "HD" Radios for Automobiles ?

When is it estimated that an "HD Radio will be Standard
Equipment in ALL Cars and Trucks ?

I Ask Myself : What IBOC ?
All I See Is The Blinking Blue Light ! ~ RHF
In the Distant Land Where IBOC Fears To Go :
Life Exists and Radio Listeners Live Beyond the 10mv/m Contour.

"RHF" wrote in message
ps.com...

When will there be OEM "HD" Radios for Automobiles ?

Already are. Mine came with one.

When is it estimated that an "HD Radio will be Standard
Equipment in ALL Cars and Trucks ?

No idea.

dxAcehole, Creator of all Universes and Supreme Commander United
Militias (S.C.U.M.) wrote:

2008! Damn, time sure has flown by since you adopted the 'Eduardo' shtick back in
2000.


That reminds me..it's been DECADES since your foster family, in
reference to YOU, claimed:

=======================================
“Some people are like slinkies......
Not really good for anything, but they will still bring a smile to your
face when you push them down the stairs.
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Remember how long you were in a body cast? Three months, if I recall.






mike