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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Sep 23, 6:44 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Sep 23, 4:02 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

In correct. The new chipsets will be considerably less expensive than
the
existing ones. See press releases on iBiquity website.

Not according to Samsung. They predict that the chipsets will be very
expensive indeed.

You are making things up again.


Samsung's words, not mine. You're just playing some kind of joke on
us, right?

Every article I could find mentioned that the chips would be low in energy
consumption and in price. I found nothing referring to higher prices than
existing chipset costs.


I looked around on on the Samsung web site and the only reference I
could find is the original announcement #172.

There is no information on engineering samples of this module. Not a
good sign for its development. There should be at least a projection of
samples by now according to the news release. Looks like more vaporware
to me.

http://www.sem.samsung.com/cms/_work/en/company/news/newsList.jsp

Looks like Eduardo will be pulling that diehard battery cart so far.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

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dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

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"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Steve" wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 8:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Nobody with any actual knowledge thought there would be portables in
2006.

Not true. The availability of portables was predicted well before
2006.

Not by either iBiquity or receiver manufacturers. Those who were
discussing
this possibility were speculating, and we could have had better data by
calling Miss Cleo.

Snip

You would know better than any other poster about Miss Cleo.

HD radios were originally supposed to be out more than a year ago
including portables. I see you are now into revising history.

Why not? He's been into making stuff up for at least 50 years now. He's got
experience.

Well yeah but about himself. He should stick to that.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

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Steve wrote:

On Sep 23, 6:44 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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On Sep 23, 4:02 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

In correct. The new chipsets will be considerably less expensive than the
existing ones. See press releases on iBiquity website.

Not according to Samsung. They predict that the chipsets will be very
expensive indeed.

You are making things up again.


Samsung's words, not mine. You're just playing some kind of joke on
us, right?

It will definitely be expensive in the beginning. The only way it will
not be expensive in time is for that chip to become a commodity with a
very large volume.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Steve" wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 8:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Nobody with any actual knowledge thought there would be portables in
2006.

Not true. The availability of portables was predicted well before
2006.

Not by either iBiquity or receiver manufacturers. Those who were
discussing
this possibility were speculating, and we could have had better data by
calling Miss Cleo.

Snip

You would know better than any other poster about Miss Cleo.

HD radios were originally supposed to be out more than a year ago
including portables. I see you are now into revising history.

Any reliable source reported, through Spring of this year, that there was no
chip capable of the battery drain requirements of a portable. Now that
Samsung and others have announced low cost low power chips, we can now
predict portables around Q2 or Q3 of 2008.

There were HD radios out nearly 4 years ago. However, they were really
limited in production, marketed mostly to the engineering staffs of early HD
stations. The HD system was developed to first get stations on, then get
some early receivers, then get more stations on, then get FCC approval and
then get mass production. That was the only way manufacturers could have the
necessary guarantees: they wanted about half the total radio listening to be
to HD equipped stations and coverage of about 2/3 of the population of the
US... both goals have been achieved now.

Well that a little better of you and don't neglect that portables were
supposed to be just around the corner.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

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"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Steve" wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 8:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Nobody with any actual knowledge thought there would be portables in
2006.

Not true. The availability of portables was predicted well before
2006.

Not by either iBiquity or receiver manufacturers. Those who were
discussing
this possibility were speculating, and we could have had better data by
calling Miss Cleo.

Snip

You would know better than any other poster about Miss Cleo.

HD radios were originally supposed to be out more than a year ago
including portables. I see you are now into revising history.

Any reliable source reported, through Spring of this year, that there was no
chip capable of the battery drain requirements of a portable. Now that
Samsung and others have announced low cost low power chips, we can now
predict portables around Q2 or Q3 of 2008.

Snip

Not so fast. That one news release was an announcement kickoff for the
system on a chip development. Samples should be available by now
according to that news release. They might have run into problems. We
will see if they can solve them or if sales / management shot off their
mouths.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:

dxAcehole, Creator of all Universes and Supreme Commander United
Militias (S.C.U.M.) wrote:

2008! Damn, time sure has flown by since you adopted the 'Eduardo' shtick back in
2000.
That reminds me..it's been DECADES since your foster family, in
reference to YOU, claimed:

=======================================
“Some people are like slinkies......
Not really good for anything, but they will still bring a smile to your
face when you push them down the stairs.
=======================================

Remember how long you were in a body cast? Three months, if I recall.

Remember how long you've been a dumbass Canuck? Since you were born, if I recall.



Alcohol impairs memory and recall. Hence, your recall is not to be trusted.

JB

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Or the first start date was when the radios hit the shelves. Or when
the
much ignored HD radio sales campaign started.

That was June, 2007. It was a requirement for manufactureers to begin
development, even if there was no FCC approval and few receivers


They started making and retailing radios before the start date?

The $200 million radio ad campaign was a year and a half before the start
date?

I guess those were startdates 0.2 and 0.51 or something.



Or the big Christmas of 2005.
Or when the 1000th HD station went on the air (even though the part
makers
thought HD radio was still in limbo). Or the big Christmas of 2006. Or
when the new and improved encoding was implemented.

So many disappointments, so many start dates.

For major manufacturers, the start date was the day the FCC approved.



Here's the list from early 2006:

"HD digital radio receivers are currently manufactured by more than 15
companies, including Audio Design Associates, Kenwood, Alpine, Panasonic,
Boston Acoustics, Polk, Day Sequerra, Radiosophy, Delphi, Rotel, DICE,
Sanyo, Eclipse (Fujitsu), Yamaha, JVC and Visteon."

http://www.hdradio.com/press_room.php?newscontent=23

Too bad HD radio has been flat for the pre-start manufacturers. Now that HD
radio finally has major manufacturers and StartDate 1.0, there's nowhere to
go but up!!

Frank Dresser

Too bad HD radio hasn't been a roaring success.

On Sep 23, 2:18 pm, Telamon
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When will there be OEM "HD" Radios for Automobiles ?

Already are. Mine came with one.

When is it estimated that an "HD Radio will be Standard
Equipment in ALL Cars and Trucks ?

No idea.

That may be a while yet. If you look around on the Internet you will
find a transportable that can shuttle between car and home. This notable
development indicates a battery operated unit is still a long ways off
if it ever happens.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

"U.S. automakers not jumping into HD Radio"

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv...7?pageNumber=1

Will never happen.

On Sep 23, 2:29 pm, Telamon
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Steve wrote:
On Sep 22, 8:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

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Alright then the amount of time the radio plays. That comment
didn't quite fit in with semiconductor chip sets.

So can you point me to a HD portable that runs off batteries?
Far as I can see there are none.

Your reading comprehension really bites, doesn't it? I have said
multiple times that there will be a minimum of two and as many
as 4 low power consumption HD chips shipping in Q1 of 2008;
these will enable portables and boom boxes of all sizes and we
should see the first in Q2 or Q3 of 2008.

Nothing wrong with my reading comprehension since I did not read
those posts bozo. The posts I read spoke of portables back in
2006.

Nobody with any actual knowledge thought there would be portables
in 2006.

Not true. The availability of portables was predicted well before
2006.

Snip

That's correct. The marketing bozos don't realize that HD, DRM or other
digital modes will require a constant processing load in order for the
receiver to function. This means there will be a constant demand for
power from the batteries. One way that semiconductors can save power is
by shutting down circuits from switching when they are not needed but
that can't happen here.

I don't expect someone like Eduardo to understand the technical details
of the hurtles that need to be overcome for HD portable development.

I expect Eduardo to have the first HD portable though. This portable
will be held in one hand and his other hand will be used to pull the
small cart with a diehard car battery to power it walking the streets of
LA.

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How's Eduardo ever going to hold the required AM-loop and FM-dipole
antennas?

On Sep 23, 4:10 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"David" wrote in message

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:38:59 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:

... virtually all the "good" facilities in the
top 100 markets are on... that alone represents nearly two-thirds of the
US
population.

KFI?

Yes, when they replace the tower that was felled by an airplane. Currently,
the emergency facility has a high Q ATU and ugly load properties and they
can not put the HD exciter on; Clear Channel has a corporate mandate for HD
on all AMs.

How amusing - the HD Radio Alliance's stations are jamming each other,
so the AM-HDs have to cycle their exciters off and on!