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September 19th 07, 11:36 PM
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Battery Operated Tabletops
Does anyone have experience and an opinion (good and bad points) about
any of these receivers: AOR AR-3030 Bearcat DX-1000 Magnavox D-2999 Panasonic RF-3100 RF-4800/4900 RF-600 Realistic DX-300/302 Sony ICF-6700W/6800W Yaesu Musen FRG-7 I'm looking for a backup radio that can handle a decent outdoor antenna, and take internal batteries. If I missed any, please add it to the list with any comments on it you might have, thanks! |
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September 19th 07, 11:56 PM
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On Sep 19, 5:36 pm, willismat wrote:
Does anyone have experience and an opinion (good and bad points) about any of these receivers: AOR AR-3030 Bearcat DX-1000 Magnavox D-2999 Panasonic RF-3100 RF-4800/4900 RF-600 Realistic DX-300/302 Sony ICF-6700W/6800W Yaesu Musen FRG-7 I'm looking for a backup radio that can handle a decent outdoor antenna, and take internal batteries. If I missed any, please add it to the list with any comments on it you If you are looking for a battery powered oldie that will perform very well as a tabletop, then consider the Sony 2010. It has keyboard entry, excellent synch detector, selectable filters and yes it will work well off an external antenna. To be honest it does a fine job on the built-in whip. Unless you are into radios that require extra knob twisting I would avoid the FRG7. |
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September 19th 07, 11:58 PM
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On Sep 19, 5:36 pm, willismat wrote:
Does anyone have experience and an opinion (good and bad points) about any of these receivers: AOR AR-3030 Bearcat DX-1000 Magnavox D-2999 Panasonic RF-3100 RF-4800/4900 RF-600 Realistic DX-300/302 Sony ICF-6700W/6800W Yaesu Musen FRG-7 I'm looking for a backup radio that can handle a decent outdoor antenna, and take internal batteries. If I missed any, please add it to the list with any comments on it you might have, thanks! Don't forget the Lowe HF-150. It not only takes batteries, but if you use rechargeables it will recharge them when you return it to AC power. |
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#4
September 20th 07, 01:31 AM
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On Sep 19, 5:58 pm, Steve wrote:
On Sep 19, 5:36 pm, willismat wrote: Does anyone have experience and an opinion (good and bad points) about any of these receivers: AOR AR-3030 Bearcat DX-1000 Magnavox D-2999 Panasonic RF-3100 RF-4800/4900 RF-600 Realistic DX-300/302 Sony ICF-6700W/6800W Yaesu Musen FRG-7 I'm looking for a backup radio that can handle a decent outdoor antenna, and take internal batteries. If I missed any, please add it to the list with any comments on it you might have, thanks! Don't forget the Lowe HF-150. It not only takes batteries, but if you use rechargeables it will recharge them when you return it to AC power.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Agreed, the Lowe HF-150 is worth consideration...As are the Drake SW8 (particularly models from 1996 onward, featuring the synchronous selectable sideband) and the Eton E1 (a lap-sized portable, like the Sony ICF-2010 & Sony ICFSW77, but much more selective than the Sonys and much more capable of handling an outdoor antenna). Oh, and the Palstar R30CC is supposed to be a very nice performer, too, although I've not used one firsthand. The Magnavox D2999 is, in my opinion, fairly overrated. Good audio, sure. But aside from that, you'd be better off going with a Sony '2010. If good audio is what you're after, you're better off finding a decent (preferably Drake-serviced) Grundig Satellite 800, which is a much more capable and better sounding receiver than the D2999. |
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#5
September 20th 07, 07:11 AM
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:56:46 -0700, Roadie wrote:
On Sep 19, 5:36 pm, willismat wrote: Does anyone have experience and an opinion (good and bad points) about any of these receivers: AOR AR-3030 Bearcat DX-1000 Magnavox D-2999 Panasonic RF-3100 RF-4800/4900 RF-600 Realistic DX-300/302 Sony ICF-6700W/6800W Yaesu Musen FRG-7 I'm looking for a backup radio that can handle a decent outdoor antenna, and take internal batteries. If I missed any, please add it to the list with any comments on it you If you are looking for a battery powered oldie that will perform very well as a tabletop, then consider the Sony 2010. It has keyboard entry, excellent synch detector, selectable filters and yes it will work well off an external antenna. To be honest it does a fine job on the built-in whip. Unless you are into radios that require extra knob twisting I would avoid the FRG7. Huh?! That's the 2nd best radio on the list. The DX-302 is the knob twister. The Uniden doesn't suck, but just barely. |
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#6
September 20th 07, 09:54 PM
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Battery Operated "Portable' Shortwave Radios Used As Table-Tops With External Antenna
= = = On Sep 19, 2:36 pm, willismat
= = = wrote: - - Does anyone have experience and an opinion - (good and bad points) about any of these receivers: - - AOR AR-3030 http://www.dxing.com/rx/ar3030.htm Limited Battery Operation uses Eight (8) AA-Cells - Bearcat DX-1000 http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...vr/dx1000.html -IF- Battery Opperation is a key feature the Bearcat does use Eight (8) D-Cells - Magnavox D-2999 http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...ble/d2999.html * Very Collectable - Panasonic RF-3100 - RF-4800/4900 - RF-600 http://www.dxing.com/rx/rf2800.htm http://www.dxing.com/rx/rf4800.htm http://www.dxing.com/rx/rfb300.htm * Collectable - But don't waste your Money - Realistic DX-300/302 http://www.dxing.com/rx/dx200.htm http://www.dxing.com/rx/dx302.htm * The Better Idea - Consider the Realistic DX-394 Receiver that has been Modified by "LowBander" http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ180160394997 - Sony ICF-6700W/6800W http://www.dxing.com/rx/icf6500w.htm http://www.dxing.com/rx/icf6800w.htm * Collectable - Yaesu Musen FRG-7 http://www.dxing.com/rx/frg7.htm * Collectable - A Classic - - I'm looking for a backup radio that can handle a - decent outdoor antenna, and take internal batteries. - If I missed any, please add it to the list with any - comments on it you might have, thanks! - WillisMat, Why buy an older and aged 'used' Radio ? When you could buy a 'new' / newer Radio and have newer Technology and Features plus a Manufactures Warranty. Here are five (5) 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radios that will work well as Table-Top Radio/Receivers and can be used with Batteries or an AC Adapter {Wall-Wart} Plus all of these Radios can be used very well with a moderate size (not to long) Shortwave Listening (SWL) Antenna of about 35~50 Feet -aka- Low Noise* SWL Antenna : Random Wire Antenna + Matching Transformer + Coax Cable feed-in-line. * Read About - The "Low Noise" Shortwave Listening Antenna design concepts that were popularized by John Doty http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...38b087b5e89fee http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4cd5e4a449fb60 Price {Budget} -and- Performance {Expections} : * Price {Budget} - Within these Price ranges these Shortwave Radio/Receivers offer good performance and reliablility for Shortwave Radio Listening (SWL). * Performance {Expections} - Can go from a 'basic' Shortwave Radio/Receiver to one with a lot of Bells and Whistles {Extra Features} that you may or may not want. 1 - Eton E1 Radio {New} ~$500 http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0101.html 2 - Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Radio {Used} ~ $300 http://www.dxing.com/rx/sat800.htm http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0800.html 3 - Sony ICF-2010 Radio {Used} ~$300 http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0841.html 4 - Sony ICF-SW7600GR Radio {New} ~$150 http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0360.html 5 - Redsun RP2100 Radio {New} ~$100 -aka- CCRadio-SW Radio / Kaito KA2100 http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ140138823638 http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2100.html http://www.ccrane.com/radios/shortwa...cradio-sw.aspx the sw radio + the sw antenna + you the swl - iane ~ RHF {pomkia} . Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antennas Group = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf GoTo = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ The SWL Antenna Discussion Group = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna HELP = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna NEWS = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna INFO = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf * * * All Are Welcome : Including ELMERS and 'Want-to-be-Elmers' plus plain old "Mister-Know-It-Alls"; and even those Newbees with "I Know This Is A Really Dumb Question - But _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ " . The Shortwave Listener's Blessing : SWL BLESSING = http://tinyurl.com/s2bjm May You Never Tire of Listening to the Radio and Always have Strong Signals and Noise Free Reception ~ RHF {ibid} http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/9233 . Tous Sont Bienvenus ! - - - Groupe par Radio d'auditeur d'onde courte pour des Antennes de SWL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . Alle Sind Willkommen ! - - - Shortwave Radiozuhörer Gruppe für SWL Antennen http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . Tutti Sono Benvenuti ! - - - Gruppo Radiofonico dell'ascoltatore di onda corta per le Antenne di SWL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . Todos São Bem-vindos ! - - - Grupo de Rádio do ouvinte do Shortwave para Antenas de SWL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . ¡Todos Son Agradables! - - - Grupo de Radio del oyente de la onda corta para las Antenas de SWL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . = = = = Plain Old American-English Translation = = = = All are Welcome - - - To Join the Shortwave Listeners (SWL) Antenna Group on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . | | | / \ ........!....... |
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September 21st 07, 05:09 AM
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On Sep 20, 3:54 pm, RHF wrote:
= = = On Sep 19, 2:36 pm, willismat = = = wrote: - - Does anyone have experience and an opinion - (good and bad points) about any of these receivers: - - AOR AR-3030http://www.dxing.com/rx/ar3030.htm Limited Battery Operation uses Eight (8) AA-Cells - Bearcat DX-1000http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/commrxvr/dx1000.html -IF- Battery Opperation is a key feature the Bearcat does use Eight (8) D-Cells - Magnavox D-2999http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/d2999.html * Very Collectable - Panasonic RF-3100 - RF-4800/4900 - RF-600http://www.dxing.com/rx/rf2800.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/rf4800.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/rfb300.htm * Collectable - But don't waste your Money - Realistic DX-300/302http://www.dxing.com/rx/dx200.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/dx302.htm * The Better Idea - Consider the Realistic DX-394 Receiver that has been Modified by "LowBander"http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ180160394997 - Sony ICF-6700W/6800Whttp://www.dxing.com/rx/icf6500w.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/icf6800w.htm * Collectable - Yaesu Musen FRG-7http://www.dxing.com/rx/frg7.htm * Collectable - A Classic - - I'm looking for a backup radio that can handle a - decent outdoor antenna, and take internal batteries. - If I missed any, please add it to the list with any - comments on it you might have, thanks! - WillisMat, Why buy an older and aged 'used' Radio ? When you could buy a 'new' / newer Radio and have newer Technology and Features plus a Manufactures Warranty. Here are five (5) 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radios that will work well as Table-Top Radio/Receivers and can be used with Batteries or an AC Adapter {Wall-Wart} Plus all of these Radios can be used very well with a moderate size (not to long) Shortwave Listening (SWL) Antenna 1 - Eton E1 Radio {New} ~$500http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101.html 2 - Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Radio {Used} ~ $300http://www.dxing.com/rx/sat800.htmhttp://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0800.html 3 - Sony ICF-2010 Radio {Used} ~$300http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0841.html 4 - Sony ICF-SW7600GR Radio {New} ~$150http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0360.html 5 - Redsun RP2100 Radio {New} ~$100 Thanks to all who have given me input, you have helped me quite a bit! I had forgotten about the HF-150, despite the fact that I have an RDI White Paper on it from several years ago that I've read a dozen times (DUH!!!) But as has been said here, bidding gets quite high. I need a backup radio and can't justify the cost. That also goes for the AR3030 (I shouldn't have even considered it, really). Never considered the 2010, as I didn't know that it could take an antenna better than its whip. Performance sure gets high regard...plus it has synch. The E1 is a good idea, that would also be a way to go, but then its back to price for a backup. I was thinking that I could get one of the Panasonics for a good price, same for the DX1000, yet I know performance won't be as good as some others. Also, I didn't know that the Drake SW8 could take batteries. Can the SW2? Sounds like a Sony or a Frog (if it has the battery holder) if I find one at a good price makes the most sense for my needs. One of the Drakes would be great but probably would be costly. I had a 7600GR before and didn't like the ergonomics of it, though it was a good performer with the tennis racket. The 2010 looks much better in this regard. |
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September 21st 07, 12:58 PM
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On Sep 20, 11:09 pm, willismat wrote:
On Sep 20, 3:54 pm, RHF wrote: = = = On Sep 19, 2:36 pm, willismat = = = wrote: - - Does anyone have experience and an opinion - (good and bad points) about any of these receivers: - - AOR AR-3030http://www.dxing.com/rx/ar3030.htm Limited Battery Operation uses Eight (8) AA-Cells - Bearcat DX-1000http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/commrxvr/dx1000.html -IF- Battery Opperation is a key feature the Bearcat does use Eight (8) D-Cells - Magnavox D-2999http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/d2999.html * Very Collectable - Panasonic RF-3100 - RF-4800/4900 - RF-600http://www.dxing.com/rx/rf2800.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/rf4800.htmh... * Collectable - But don't waste your Money - Realistic DX-300/302http://www.dxing.com/rx/dx200.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/dx302.htm * The Better Idea - Consider the Realistic DX-394 Receiver that has been Modified by "LowBander"http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ180160394997 - Sony ICF-6700W/6800Whttp://www.dxing.com/rx/icf6500w.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/icf6800w.htm * Collectable - Yaesu Musen FRG-7http://www.dxing.com/rx/frg7.htm * Collectable - A Classic - - I'm looking for a backup radio that can handle a - decent outdoor antenna, and take internal batteries. - If I missed any, please add it to the list with any - comments on it you might have, thanks! - WillisMat, Why buy an older and aged 'used' Radio ? When you could buy a 'new' / newer Radio and have newer Technology and Features plus a Manufactures Warranty. Here are five (5) 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radios that will work well as Table-Top Radio/Receivers and can be used with Batteries or an AC Adapter {Wall-Wart} Plus all of these Radios can be used very well with a moderate size (not to long) Shortwave Listening (SWL) Antenna 1 - Eton E1 Radio {New} ~$500http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101.html 2 - Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Radio {Used} ~ $300http://www.dxing.com/rx/sat800.htmhttp://www.universal-radio.com/cata... 3 - Sony ICF-2010 Radio {Used} ~$300http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0841.html 4 - Sony ICF-SW7600GR Radio {New} ~$150http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0360.html 5 - Redsun RP2100 Radio {New} ~$100 Thanks to all who have given me input, you have helped me quite a bit! I had forgotten about the HF-150, despite the fact that I have an RDI White Paper on it from several years ago that I've read a dozen times (DUH!!!) But as has been said here, bidding gets quite high. I need a backup radio and can't justify the cost. That also goes for the AR3030 (I shouldn't have even considered it, really). Never considered the 2010, as I didn't know that it could take an antenna better than its whip. Performance sure gets high regard...plus it has synch. The E1 is a good idea, that would also be a way to go, but then its back to price for a backup. I was thinking that I could get one of the Panasonics for a good price, same for the DX1000, yet I know performance won't be as good as some others. Also, I didn't know that the Drake SW8 could take batteries. Can the SW2? Sounds like a Sony or a Frog (if it has the battery holder) if I find one at a good price makes the most sense for my needs. One of the Drakes would be great but probably would be costly. I had a 7600GR before and didn't like the ergonomics of it, though it was a good performer with the tennis racket. The 2010 looks much better in this regard.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Don't count out the HF-150. While I suspect the one currently on ebay will go for an excessive amount of money, they often go for around $400. IMO this makes it a fine value, especially considering that you'd pay close to $400 for many new or used portables. |
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September 21st 07, 02:43 PM
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On Sep 21, 6:58 am, Steve wrote:
On Sep 20, 11:09 pm, willismat wrote: On Sep 20, 3:54 pm, RHF wrote: = = = On Sep 19, 2:36 pm, willismat = = = wrote: - - Does anyone have experience and an opinion - (good and bad points) about any of these receivers: - - AOR AR-3030http://www.dxing.com/rx/ar3030.htm Limited Battery Operation uses Eight (8) AA-Cells - Bearcat DX-1000http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/commrxvr/dx1000.html -IF- Battery Opperation is a key feature the Bearcat does use Eight (8) D-Cells - Magnavox D-2999http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/d2999.html * Very Collectable - Panasonic RF-3100 - RF-4800/4900 - RF-600http://www.dxing.com/rx/rf2800.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/rf4800.htmh... * Collectable - But don't waste your Money - Realistic DX-300/302http://www.dxing.com/rx/dx200.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/dx302.htm * The Better Idea - Consider the Realistic DX-394 Receiver that has been Modified by "LowBander"http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ180160394997 - Sony ICF-6700W/6800Whttp://www.dxing.com/rx/icf6500w.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/icf6800w.htm * Collectable - Yaesu Musen FRG-7http://www.dxing.com/rx/frg7.htm * Collectable - A Classic - Show quoted text - Don't count out the HF-150. While I suspect the one currently on ebay will go for an excessive amount of money, they often go for around $400. IMO this makes it a fine value, especially considering that you'd pay close to $400 for many new or used portables.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You're right, I probably will have to put out more than I had expected. Even for a backup its a good idea to have a good performer, so in the end I guess it would be a good value. The D2999 has been suggested a few times to be avoided (when the eBay cost is considered). Same with the Bearcat and aparently all the Panasonics. I have noticed a few Sony ICF-6700Ws on eBay have sold in the $150-200 range. The 6800WA (Orange) is the one that gets attention but how is this receiver, a decent value at $150? Probably a good idea to save a bit more and figure on looking for a good deal around $350 for a Sat 800, Sony 2010 or HF-150, if I can find one at the right time. |
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#10
September 21st 07, 04:40 PM
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Some folks who've steeply discounted E1s on
eBay have found themselves in the lurch with regard to warranty issues. That is to say, some folks who've bought steeply discounted presumably "new in box" E1s on eBay have found themselves without warranty coverage when these vendors were not authorized Eton retailers. Something to think about, given that there have been some issues with regard to E1 display failures (see May 4th article at http://www.passband.com/2007/05/) |
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