David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
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I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.

Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?

Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?


If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.
2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.

Odd? That would be you, oh phoney one.

David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as the fraudulent 'Eduardo', wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
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I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.

Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?

Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?


If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.

So?

2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.

I can associate the use of a Beverage (Yes, moron, with a capital B) antenna
with SW reception on most any given day, and so can the cognoscenti.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

--
William Smith
Indiana
IC-746, FRG-100
1500 foot longwire

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as the fraudulent 'Eduardo', wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...


I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.

Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the
IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades
or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?

Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux
one?


If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.

So?

2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.

I can associate the use of a Beverage (Yes, moron, with a capital B)
antenna
with SW reception on most any given day, and so can the cognoscenti.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



I'm planning on putting together a 750 foot maybe longer Beverage just for
the hell of it. I guess that I can't use it on SW now though, hahhahahaha.
Since I have quite a bit of written material on the Beverage and the skill
to put it in line, I wonder if that makes me qualified to know how it works.
Also, considering that in past years when time wasn't an issue, I used to
regularly receive Atlantic 252 on longwave here in the Midwestern USA state
of Indiana. Not to mention quite a few other longwave catches starting just
after dark local time. Maybe someday I will figure out how to use the
Beverage for shortwave. Mwhahahhaha.

"dxAce" wrote in message
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If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.

So?

2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.

I can associate the use of a Beverage (Yes, moron, with a capital B)
antenna
with SW reception on most any given day, and so can the cognoscenti.

Since when is 650 a shortwave frequency?

David Frackelton Gleason, still trying to convince folks that he is 'Eduardo',
wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.

So?

2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.

I can associate the use of a Beverage (Yes, moron, with a capital B)
antenna
with SW reception on most any given day, and so can the cognoscenti.

Since when is 650 a shortwave frequency?\

Who ever said it was?

Gawd you're a moron.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
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Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to put
one across the way here in a few days when I get some more material.
The idea of a Beverage is to have a multiple wavelength antenna. Multiple
wavelengths on SW frequencies are much shorter, and many longwires are, in
essence, possesing those properties already.

No that would not be correct. A Beverage is a special case antenna
different from long wire antenna.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as the fraudulent 'Eduardo', wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...


I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.

Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?

Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?


If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.

So?

2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.

I can associate the use of a Beverage (Yes, moron, with a capital B) antenna
with SW reception on most any given day, and so can the cognoscenti.

I would consider what you use to be a Beverage antenna for SW since I
believe your long wire antennas to be about 10 foot off the ground. You
have two, one a hundred foot and another 200 foot long.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Sep 24, 9:33 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
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Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to put
one across the way here in a few days when I get some more material.
The idea of a Beverage is to have a multiple wavelength antenna. Multiple
wavelengths on SW frequencies are much shorter, and many longwires are, in
essence, possesing those properties already.


- No that would not be correct.
- A Beverage is a special case antenna
- different from long wire antenna.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

Telamon - How So ? ~ RHF

The Beverage Antenna*
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna

"The Beverage Antenna is a relatively inexpensive
but very effective Long Wire Receiving Antenna
used by Amateur Radio, Shortwave Listening (SWL),
and Longwave Radio DXers and Military Applications."
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna
"A Beverage Antenna consists of a Wire one or two
Wavelengths Long (Hundreds of Feet at HF to several
Kilometres for Llongwave)."
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna
"A Resistor connected to a Ground Rod Terminates
the end of the Beverage Antenna 'pointed' to the
Target Area, a 470 Ohm Non-Inductive Resistor provides
excellent results for most Soils {Locations}."
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna
"A 50 or 75 Ohm Coaxial Cable Transmission Line
connects the Receiver to the opposite-end of the
Beverage Antenna through an Impedance-Matching
Transformer."
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna

READ more "Technical Description"
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverag...al_Description
- Harold Beverage discovered . . .

Three Characteristics of a Beverage Antenna :
* One or More Wavelengths Long
* Near the Ground Surface {within Several Feet}
* Terminated

Three Characteristics of a Longwire Antenna :
* One or More Wavelengths Long
* High Above the Ground Surface {1/4 WL or More}
* Not Terminated
ERGO a Non-Terminated Beverage Antenna
that is Rigged relatively High-Off the Ground

Read - Antenna Height Considerations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna...considerations

Longwave - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave

Medium Wave - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediumwave
Medium Frequency - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_frequency

Shortwave - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortwave
-aka- "HF" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_frequency

byob ~ RHF

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On Sep 24, 9:33 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...

Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to
put
one across the way here in a few days when I get some more material.
The idea of a Beverage is to have a multiple wavelength antenna.
Multiple
wavelengths on SW frequencies are much shorter, and many longwires are,
in
essence, possesing those properties already.


- No that would not be correct.
- A Beverage is a special case antenna
- different from long wire antenna.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

A Beverage is a specific kind of long wire, generally wavelength or
multiples, which can operate well low off the ground (MW Beverages are often
on sticks in the ground) and is grounded at one end and end, not center,
fed. Like other antennas, they can be used in multiples to create
directional patters and "moving" directionality by means of a phasor.

On Sep 25, 10:34 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Sep 24, 9:33 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...

Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to
put
one across the way here in a few days when I get some more material.
The idea of a Beverage is to have a multiple wavelength antenna.
Multiple
wavelengths on SW frequencies are much shorter, and many longwires are,
in
essence, possesing those properties already.

- No that would not be correct.
- A Beverage is a special case antenna
- different from long wire antenna.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

A Beverage is a specific kind of long wire, generally wavelength or
multiples, which can operate well low off the ground (MW Beverages are often
on sticks in the ground) and is grounded at one end and end, not center,
fed. Like other antennas, they can be used in multiples to create
directional patters and "moving" directionality by means of a phasor.- Hide quoted text -

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Very good. Anything else you'd like to paraphrase?