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On Oct 6, 1:56?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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Is that bad news for Eduardo?


Just getting up in the morning and having to fake it through another day
is bad
news for 'Eduardo'.


It's not good or bad news. It is one company which wants to further study
and maybe request modifications of night HD. What the bad news is has to do
with the declining and ageing listenership of AM... HD was a hope that had a
slim chance of reversing this.


No, news/talk/sports on AM is alive and well - it is the music FMs
that are screwed:

"News/Talk/Sports:Radio's Last Bastion"

"Music FMs of any flavor are utterly screwed... Right now -- while FMs
are losing the music audience to new media -- satellite radio is
offering more News/Talk/Sports programming than we can fit on AM
radio..."

http://ftp.media.radcity.net/ZMST/daily/IS031005.htm

"News/Talk/Sports Tops Radio Formats, Interep Analysis Reveals"

"The latest share numbers place the News/Talk/Sports format at the
top, pulling in an average of 17 percent of listenership among persons
age 12-plus, based on Arbitron figures for total radio listening in 92
continuously measured metros. That share number is even higher than
levels seen last spring, when the war in Iraq began. According to
Interep, more stations than ever are programming News/Talk."

http://www.thenewsletterplace.com/05...9/article4.htm

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On Oct 6, 1:56 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...



wrote:


Is that bad news for Eduardo?


Just getting up in the morning and having to fake it through another day
is bad
news for 'Eduardo'.


It's not good or bad news. It is one company which wants to further study
and maybe request modifications of night HD. What the bad news is has to do
with the declining and ageing listenership of AM... HD was a hope that had a
slim chance of reversing this.


The end is near, Edurado - word has gotten out about the HD Radio
farce:

"Is HD Radio Toast?"

"There are serious issues of coverage. Early adopters who bought HD
radios report serious drop-outs, poor coverage, and interference. The
engineers of Ibiquity may argue otherwise and defend the system, but
the industry has a serious PR problem with the very people we need to
get the word out on HD... In New York City, the #1 market in the
country, there are 25 stations broadcasting 42 HD channels. You'll
find CHR, AC, Classic Rock, Hip-Hop, News, Talk, and Sports. In other
words, everything you can find on the regular FM dial... The word has
already gotten out about HD Radio. People who have already bought an
HD Radio are telling others of their experience (mostly bad) and no
amount of marketing will reverse this."

http://www.fmqb.com/article.asp?id=487772

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In article . com,
IBOCcrock wrote:

On Oct 6, 1:56?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...



wrote:


Is that bad news for Eduardo?


Just getting up in the morning and having to fake it through another day
is bad
news for 'Eduardo'.


It's not good or bad news. It is one company which wants to further study
and maybe request modifications of night HD. What the bad news is has to do
with the declining and ageing listenership of AM... HD was a hope that had a
slim chance of reversing this.


You know Goddamn well this is bad news, because others surely will
follow - there is NOTHING iNiquity can do to change the laws of
physics - if ther ewas, something would have been done before Sept.
14th.


Eduardo will be along soon with some Arbitron marketing stats that will
PROVE it can be done. When you fake data, misconstrue, and post
non-responses to questions anything is possible.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California
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On Oct 6, 1:56?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...



wrote:


Is that bad news for Eduardo?


Just getting up in the morning and having to fake it through another day
is bad
news for 'Eduardo'.


It's not good or bad news. It is one company which wants to further study
and maybe request modifications of night HD. What the bad news is has to do
with the declining and ageing listenership of AM... HD was a hope that had a
slim chance of reversing this.


"Because of lackluster performance, limited benefit, and reports of
significant interference to other stations, please reinstitute daytime-
only procedures for IBOC-AM...."

You forgot something, dirtbag!



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Awwww... poor little fake boy with the fake amateur license!


You are a jingoist xenophobe, who does not realize that in many places in
the world, particularly 40 to 50 years ago, a test was not a requirement for
a ham license.


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"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 6, 1:56?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...



wrote:


Is that bad news for Eduardo?


Just getting up in the morning and having to fake it through another
day
is bad
news for 'Eduardo'.


It's not good or bad news. It is one company which wants to further study
and maybe request modifications of night HD. What the bad news is has to
do
with the declining and ageing listenership of AM... HD was a hope that
had a
slim chance of reversing this.


You know Goddamn well this is bad news, because others surely will
follow - there is NOTHING iNiquity can do to change the laws of
physics - if ther ewas, something would have been done before Sept.
14th.


Then the bad news is for AM... its obsolescence is now assured. I'll bet, if
the night issue is either real or is not reparable, that a decent LA AM, for
example, has probably lost $8 to $10 million in stick value because of the
fact that there may be no future at all for them.


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"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 6, 1:56?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...



wrote:


Is that bad news for Eduardo?


Just getting up in the morning and having to fake it through another
day
is bad
news for 'Eduardo'.


It's not good or bad news. It is one company which wants to further study
and maybe request modifications of night HD. What the bad news is has to
do
with the declining and ageing listenership of AM... HD was a hope that
had a
slim chance of reversing this.


No, news/talk/sports on AM is alive and well - it is the music FMs
that are screwed

"News/Talk/Sports:Radio's Last Bastion"

"Music FMs of any flavor are utterly screwed... Right now -- while FMs
are losing the music audience to new media -- satellite radio is
offering more News/Talk/Sports programming than we can fit on AM
radio..."

http://ftp.media.radcity.net/ZMST/daily/IS031005.htm

"News/Talk/Sports Tops Radio Formats, Interep Analysis Reveals"

"The latest share numbers place the News/Talk/Sports format at the
top, pulling in an average of 17 percent of listenership among persons
age 12-plus, based on Arbitron figures for total radio listening in 92
continuously measured metros. That share number is even higher than
levels seen last spring, when the war in Iraq began. According to
Interep, more stations than ever are programming News/Talk."


So, music formats have 83% of the audience? That sounds like very few listen
to news and talk.

In the ages that advertisers want, news and talk have about 10% of the
audience, and if you remove the FM news talk and sports stations, it is down
to about 8.5% of the audience. That is miserable... and shows the only
format viable on AM is slowly declining and rapidly moving from AM to FM.


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On Oct 6, 1:56?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...



wrote:


Is that bad news for Eduardo?


Just getting up in the morning and having to fake it through another
day
is bad
news for 'Eduardo'.


It's not good or bad news. It is one company which wants to further study
and maybe request modifications of night HD. What the bad news is has to
do
with the declining and ageing listenership of AM... HD was a hope that
had a
slim chance of reversing this.


"Because of lackluster performance, limited benefit, and reports of
significant interference to other stations, please reinstitute daytime-
only procedures for IBOC-AM...."

You forgot something, dirtbag!


No, nothing is forgotten. Without a technology advance, AM is on its way
out. When AM listening is now below 10% in many smaller markets, and does
not exceed 20% anywhere (SF, where the market definition is based on the
coverage of three AMs), the issue is that any inability to get HD going,
technically, via marketing, etc., has doomed the AM band in the US:


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