"IBOC TECHNOLOGY: An Assessment of Technical & Operational Issues in
the Canadian FM Radio Environment" 24 May 2007

"Based on the evidence currently in hand, the DRCG considers that it
would be risky for Canadian broadcasters to proceed at this time with
an unrestricted roll-out of HD Radio services in the FM band, in the
manner implemented in the US. There is no ground-swell of radio
listener interest in this technology so far and the lack of
inexpensive receivers, as well as unique new programming services,
continues to make it difficult to market HD Radio to the public in the
US. Moreover, there is no evidence that Canadian digital radio
listeners are being lost to the 10% of US FM stations that have
implemented HD Radio to date."

http://www.cab-acr.ca/english/radio/...port_final.pdf

Ha! Ha! Eduardo! Word's getting around, and the other countries
testing IBOC will surely follow!

On Oct 22, 11:19 pm, RHF wrote:
On Oct 22, 1:13 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:





"IBOC TECHNOLOGY: An Assessment of Technical & Operational Issues in
the Canadian FM Radio Environment" 24 May 2007

"Based on the evidence currently in hand, the DRCG considers that it
would be risky for Canadian broadcasters to proceed at this time with
an unrestricted roll-out of HD Radio services in the FM band, in the
manner implemented in the US. There is no ground-swell of radio
listener interest in this technology so far and the lack of
inexpensive receivers, as well as unique new programming services,
continues to make it difficult to market HD Radio to the public in the
US. Moreover, there is no evidence that Canadian digital radio
listeners are being lost to the 10% of US FM stations that have
implemented HD Radio to date."

http://www.cab-acr.ca/english/radio/...port_final.pdf

Ha! Ha! Eduardo! Word's getting around, and the other countries
testing IBOC will surely follow!

IBOC Crock,

Because of the 'limited' number of AM/MW and FM Radio Stations
in Canada : Implemention of IBOC "HD" Radio within Canada itself
is not a Technical Problem; as it is not a Technical Problem in the
Rest-of-the-World. It is only in the USA where there are an over
abundance of both AM/MW and FM Radio Stations that IBOC is a
significant Technical Problem and then the main problem is AM/MW
Nightime Interference due to Medium Wave propagation.

IBOC 'fits' the FM Band Plan.

IBOC does not 'fit' the current AM/MW Band Plan.

i b oc'd ~ RHF
.
With Four (4) Exceptions - I Ask Myself : What IBOC ?
All I See Is The Blinking Blue Light !
In That Distant Land* Where IBOC Fears To Go :
Life Exists and Radio Listeners Live Beyond the 10mv/m Contour.
* Twain Harte, CA -USA-
.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

IBOC is dead on both bands, if not from lack of consumer interest,
poor reception, and bland, repetitive, non-compelling programming.

"RHF" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Oct 22, 1:13 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:

Because of the 'limited' number of AM/MW and FM Radio Stations
in Canada : Implemention of IBOC "HD" Radio within Canada itself
is not a Technical Problem; as it is not a Technical Problem in the
Rest-of-the-World. It is only in the USA where there are an over
abundance of both AM/MW and FM Radio Stations that IBOC is a
significant Technical Problem and then the main problem is AM/MW
Nightime Interference due to Medium Wave propagation.

All of Latin America has higher power, closer packed AM and FM than the US,
and, on FM, places as varied as Indonesia and some of the African nations
like Ghana, have huge numbers of independent FMs.

On Oct 23, 10:06 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

oups.com... On Oct 22, 1:13 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:

Because of the 'limited' number of AM/MW and FM Radio Stations
in Canada : Implemention of IBOC "HD" Radio within Canada itself
is not a Technical Problem; as it is not a Technical Problem in the
Rest-of-the-World. It is only in the USA where there are an over
abundance of both AM/MW and FM Radio Stations that IBOC is a
significant Technical Problem and then the main problem is AM/MW
Nightime Interference due to Medium Wave propagation.

All of Latin America has higher power, closer packed AM and FM than the US,
and, on FM, places as varied as Indonesia and some of the African nations
like Ghana, have huge numbers of independent FMs.

Big surprise that you chimed in.

email JT and Dave at www.supertalkms.com Tell them I! says to play
that Ukrainian version of Highway to Hell song some more.
cuhulin

On Oct 23, 7:06 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

oups.com... On Oct 22, 1:13 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:

Because of the 'limited' number of AM/MW and FM Radio Stations
in Canada : Implemention of IBOC "HD" Radio within Canada itself
is not a Technical Problem; as it is not a Technical Problem in the
Rest-of-the-World. It is only in the USA where there are an over
abundance of both AM/MW and FM Radio Stations that IBOC is a
significant Technical Problem and then the main problem is AM/MW
Nightime Interference due to Medium Wave propagation.

- All of Latin America has higher power, closer packed AM and FM
- than the US, and, on FM, places as varied as Indonesia and some
- of the African nations like Ghana, have huge numbers of independent
- FMs.

d'Eduardo,

Most 'countries' around the World have Government Controlled
{Limited} Media : Which Translates to Fewer Radio Stations per
10-K Square Miles then the USA.

Yes these Government Controlled Radio Stations are Higher
Powered then in the USA.

Plus the AM/MW 9 kHz Band Plan does make things more
compact then the USA's 10 kHz Band Plan.

I 'predict' that China (PRC) will be going to IBOC Broadcasting
on both AM/MW and FM Radio. Much lower Cost for Media
Expansion to 'serve' the Masses -vice- building all new Radio
Station's Transmitters and Towers. Followed by India etc . . .

IMHO - The 'future' of USA Terrestrial Based "Free" Over-the-Air
Radio Broadcasting is in an Expanded FM Radio Band. This can
be done by 'converting' the old Analog TV Channel 5 & 6 Frequency
Range 76~88 Mhz to the IBOC Digital Broadcasting and transfering
the majority of 'local' AM/MW Radio Stations to the FM Band.

it's a 'vision' thing ~ RHF

You ever scratch your hiney and then take a wiff of it? Roseanne Hale,
in Lima,Ohio,she once sent out the Stinky Monkey mpeg, about seven years
ago.And a few years later, she had the gaul to email tell me I am
Obnoxious!
I Love you, Rosie.
cuhulin

"RHF" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Oct 23, 7:06 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

oups.com... On Oct 22,
1:13 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:

Because of the 'limited' number of AM/MW and FM Radio Stations
in Canada : Implemention of IBOC "HD" Radio within Canada itself
is not a Technical Problem; as it is not a Technical Problem in the
Rest-of-the-World. It is only in the USA where there are an over
abundance of both AM/MW and FM Radio Stations that IBOC is a
significant Technical Problem and then the main problem is AM/MW
Nightime Interference due to Medium Wave propagation.

- All of Latin America has higher power, closer packed AM and FM
- than the US, and, on FM, places as varied as Indonesia and some
- of the African nations like Ghana, have huge numbers of independent
- FMs.

d'Eduardo,

Most 'countries' around the World have Government Controlled
{Limited} Media : Which Translates to Fewer Radio Stations per
10-K Square Miles then the USA.

That is not true. In this Hemisphere, there is no nation save Cuba where the
government controls media. In most nations, for every government station,
there are 100 non-government ones.

Ecuador has nearly 200 AMs still on the air, and over 600 FMs, and only two
or three are government owned... every other nation is pretty much like
that.

Yes these Government Controlled Radio Stations are Higher
Powered then in the USA.

Not always.

Plus the AM/MW 9 kHz Band Plan does make things more
compact then the USA's 10 kHz Band Plan.

Not by much. And that plan does not apply in The Americas.

I 'predict' that China (PRC) will be going to IBOC Broadcasting
on both AM/MW and FM Radio. Much lower Cost for Media
Expansion to 'serve' the Masses -vice- building all new Radio
Station's Transmitters and Towers. Followed by India etc . . .

China will soon have more private stations than government ones, India
already does.

IMHO - The 'future' of USA Terrestrial Based "Free" Over-the-Air
Radio Broadcasting is in an Expanded FM Radio Band. This can
be done by 'converting' the old Analog TV Channel 5 & 6 Frequency
Range 76~88 Mhz to the IBOC Digital Broadcasting and transfering
the majority of 'local' AM/MW Radio Stations to the FM Band.

Too many radios that do not cover it...

On Oct 23, 1:29 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Oct 23, 7:06 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

groups.com... On Oct 22,
1:13 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:

Because of the 'limited' number of AM/MW and FM Radio Stations
in Canada : Implemention of IBOC "HD" Radio within Canada itself
is not a Technical Problem; as it is not a Technical Problem in the
Rest-of-the-World. It is only in the USA where there are an over
abundance of both AM/MW and FM Radio Stations that IBOC is a
significant Technical Problem and then the main problem is AM/MW
Nightime Interference due to Medium Wave propagation.

- All of Latin America has higher power, closer packed AM and FM
- than the US, and, on FM, places as varied as Indonesia and some
- of the African nations like Ghana, have huge numbers of independent
- FMs.

d'Eduardo,

Most 'countries' around the World have Government Controlled
{Limited} Media : Which Translates to Fewer Radio Stations per
10-K Square Miles then the USA.

That is not true. In this Hemisphere, there is no nation save Cuba where the
government controls media. In most nations, for every government station,
there are 100 non-government ones.

Ecuador has nearly 200 AMs still on the air, and over 600 FMs, and only two
or three are government owned... every other nation is pretty much like
that.



Yes these Government Controlled Radio Stations are Higher
Powered then in the USA.

Not always.



Plus the AM/MW 9 kHz Band Plan does make things more
compact then the USA's 10 kHz Band Plan.

Not by much. And that plan does not apply in The Americas.



I 'predict' that China (PRC) will be going to IBOC Broadcasting
on both AM/MW and FM Radio. Much lower Cost for Media
Expansion to 'serve' the Masses -vice- building all new Radio
Station's Transmitters and Towers. Followed by India etc . . .

China will soon have more private stations than government ones, India
already does.



IMHO - The 'future' of USA Terrestrial Based "Free" Over-the-Air
Radio Broadcasting is in an Expanded FM Radio Band. This can
be done by 'converting' the old Analog TV Channel 5 & 6 Frequency
Range 76~88 Mhz to the IBOC Digital Broadcasting and transfering
the majority of 'local' AM/MW Radio Stations to the FM Band.

Too many radios that do not cover it...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You Lack 'Vision'. ~ RHF

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

That is not true. In this Hemisphere, there is no nation save Cuba where
the
government controls media. In most nations, for every government station,
there are 100 non-government ones.

Snip

Venezuela is about 95%. Hugo is still working on that last 5%.


Nope. All but about a dozen stations are privately owned commercial
operations. I don't see the Cisneros family being "government."