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On Nov 30, 2:34 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:
- Top 10 technology flops
-
- HD Radio. After more than a decade, everybody's transmitting,
- but nobody's listening. It'll catch on eventually, when it
- comes standard in all AM/FM tuners.
-

IBOC Crock,

I predict that before 2015 every 'new' US Car and Truck
sold will have an IBOC 'Compatible' "HD" AM/FM Radios as
'basic' OEM Factory Installed Standard Equipment.
-while- Satellite Radio will still be an 'option' on many.

# 1 - The "Free" Over-the-Air AM/FM Radio Broadcasters and
Advertisers will want Demand-It* to stay competitive in the
Market Place with the 'New-Media'
* Reason/Justification - In the Public Interest.

# 2 - The FCC will Mandate* that all 'new' AM/FM Radios that
are made-in or imported-into the USA by about the Year
2015 {or before} be IBOC 'Compatible' "HD" AM/FM Radios.
* That's All Car and Truck AM/FM Radios
* That's All Consumer Electronics with Built-in AM/FM Radios
* That Includings All Stand-a-Lone AM/FM Radios and
AM/FM Clock-Radios
* Reason/Justification - In the Public Interest.

My Personal Top 10 Technology Radio/TV Successes . . .
1 - AM Radio
2 - Shortwave Radio
3 - FM Radio
4 - TV
* 5 - Combining an 'AM & FM Radio' in One Box
6 - FM Stereo Radio
7 - Color TV
8 - Cable TV
9 - Satellite TV
10 - HDTV

it's a vision thing ~ RHF
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On Dec 1, 12:15�am, RHF wrote:
On Nov 30, 2:34 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:
- Top 10 technology flops
-
- HD Radio. After more than a decade, everybody's transmitting,
- but nobody's listening. It'll catch on eventually, when it
- comes standard in all AM/FM tuners.
-

IBOC Crock,

I predict that before 2015 every 'new' US Car and Truck
sold will have an IBOC 'Compatible' "HD" AM/FM Radios as
'basic' OEM Factory Installed Standard Equipment.
-while- Satellite Radio will still be an 'option' on many.

# 1 - The "Free" Over-the-Air AM/FM Radio Broadcasters and
Advertisers will want Demand-It* to stay competitive in the
Market Place with the 'New-Media'
* Reason/Justification - In the Public Interest.

# 2 - The FCC will Mandate* that all 'new' AM/FM Radios that
are made-in or imported-into the USA by about the Year
2015 {or before} be IBOC 'Compatible' "HD" AM/FM Radios.
* That's All Car and Truck AM/FM Radios
* That's All Consumer Electronics with Built-in AM/FM Radios
* That Includings All Stand-a-Lone AM/FM Radios and
AM/FM Clock-Radios
* Reason/Justification - In the Public Interest.

My Personal Top 10 Technology Radio/TV Successes . . .
1 - AM Radio
2 - Shortwave Radio
3 - FM Radio
4 - TV
* 5 - Combining an 'AM & FM Radio' in One Box
6 - FM Stereo Radio
7 - Color TV
8 - Cable TV
9 - Satellite TV
10 - HDTV

it's a vision thing ~ RHF
�.
NOTE -IF- The 'Top 10 Technology Flops' List that does not
have 8-Track Tape on it - Ain't No List At All ! ~ RHF
�.


Satrad is STANDARD on many vehicles, including FORD. Sync-type
products will have pushed everything else out of dash by 2020. Radio
is dying, and will be insignificant by 2025 - too bad, iBiquity forgot
to think about that, or realize that no one buys radios anymore. Gen Y
listens to iPods, and radio is not even on their radar.
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On Nov 30, 11:35Â*pm, IBOCcrock wrote:
On Dec 1, 12:15�am, RHF wrote:





On Nov 30, 2:34 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:
- Top 10 technology flops
-
- HD Radio. After more than a decade, everybody's transmitting,
- but nobody's listening. It'll catch on eventually, when it
- comes standard in all AM/FM tuners.
-


IBOC Crock,


I predict that before 2015 every 'new' US Car and Truck
sold will have an IBOC 'Compatible' "HD" AM/FM Radios as
'basic' OEM Factory Installed Standard Equipment.
-while- Satellite Radio will still be an 'option' on many.


# 1 - The "Free" Over-the-Air AM/FM Radio Broadcasters and
Advertisers will want Demand-It* to stay competitive in the
Market Place with the 'New-Media'
* Reason/Justification - In the Public Interest.


# 2 - The FCC will Mandate* that all 'new' AM/FM Radios that
are made-in or imported-into the USA by about the Year
2015 {or before} be IBOC 'Compatible' "HD" AM/FM Radios.
* That's All Car and Truck AM/FM Radios
* That's All Consumer Electronics with Built-in AM/FM Radios
* That Includings All Stand-a-Lone AM/FM Radios and
AM/FM Clock-Radios
* Reason/Justification - In the Public Interest.


My Personal Top 10 Technology Radio/TV Successes . . .
1 - AM Radio
2 - Shortwave Radio
3 - FM Radio
4 - TV
* 5 - Combining an 'AM & FM Radio' in One Box
6 - FM Stereo Radio
7 - Color TV
8 - Cable TV
9 - Satellite TV
10 - HDTV


it's a vision thing ~ RHF
�.
NOTE -IF- The 'Top 10 Technology Flops' List that does not
have 8-Track Tape on it - Ain't No List At All ! ~ RHF
�.


Satrad is STANDARD on many vehicles, including FORD. Sync-type
products will have pushed everything else out of dash by 2020. Radio
is dying, and will be insignificant by 2025 - too bad, iBiquity forgot
to think about that, or realize that no one buys radios anymore. Gen Y
listens to iPods, and radio is not even on their radar.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


IBOC Crock - This Is Your Brain On iPods ! ~ RHF
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Real Super-Radios Last Forever On One Set of Batteries.

-while- Clephones and iPods that are used for Several
Hours a Day 'require' a Daily Battery Recharge.

iboc crock - u b stuck on ipod ~ RHF
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If nobody is buying radios anymore, how can Bose afford all that
advertising? And who is buying all those Polk, BA, Cambridge, Tivoli,
Sangean, etc etc radios?

Go down to your local Fry's (or equivalent). Hi-fi table-top radios
are already abundant and rapidly proliferating. With an iPod dock,
and an alarm and maybe a CD, they make the perfect bedroom system - I
just bought the Tivoli iYiYi for my bedroom. I already have a
Cambridge HD radio with CD player next door in my office. Have a BA
receptor radio in the kitchen. Hmm, that's three radios, just for
me. Heck, I'll probably get one for my next car, and if iPod
intorduces one I'll get that too.

Samsung is (already or just about to be) sampling low-power SOC HD.
From the press release:
...features a System-in-Package (SIP) module and a CMOS, mixed-signal single-chip tuner. Target HD Radio applications include: mobile phones, portable media players, portable navigation devices, table radios and home audio-video components.


Will definitely drive costs down. Wonder if FCC might indeed start
requiring IBOC in radios - maybe phase it in like they did with ATSC
tuners in large then smaller TVs.

With the terrific programming I get free, I can't even imagine paying
for radio.

disclaimer: I worked for the engineering company that produced the
"proof of concept" receiver for Ibiquity. Yep, I helped design North
America's first ever terrestrial digital radio receiver. It was about
seven RU high. I thought digital radio was a neat idea then and I
stitll do.
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In article
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peejay wrote:

Snip

disclaimer: I worked for the engineering company that produced the
"proof of concept" receiver for Ibiquity. Yep, I helped design North
America's first ever terrestrial digital radio receiver. It was about
seven RU high. I thought digital radio was a neat idea then and I
stitll do.


HD radio sucks.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


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On Dec 4, 7:43 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,

peejay wrote:

Snip

disclaimer: I worked for the engineering company that produced the
"proof of concept" receiver for Ibiquity. Yep, I helped design North
America's first ever terrestrial digital radio receiver. It was about
seven RU high. I thought digital radio was a neat idea then and I
stitll do.


HD radio sucks.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


Telamon - Need I remind you that there is a
World of Suck-Ups Out-There to be Serviced. ~ RHF
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On Dec 4, 7:49 pm, peejay wrote:
If nobody is buying radios anymore, how can Bose afford all that
advertising? And who is buying all those Polk, BA, Cambridge, Tivoli,
Sangean, etc etc radios?

Go down to your local Fry's (or equivalent). Hi-fi table-top radios
are already abundant and rapidly proliferating. With an iPod dock,
and an alarm and maybe a CD, they make the perfect bedroom system - I
just bought the Tivoli iYiYi for my bedroom. I already have a
Cambridge HD radio with CD player next door in my office. Have a BA
receptor radio in the kitchen. Hmm, that's three radios, just for
me. Heck, I'll probably get one for my next car, and if iPod
intorduces one I'll get that too.

Samsung is (already or just about to be) sampling low-power SOC HD.
From the press release:

...features a System-in-Package (SIP) module and a CMOS, mixed-signal single-chip tuner. Target HD Radio applications include: mobile phones, portable media players, portable navigation devices, table radios and home audio-video components.


Will definitely drive costs down. Wonder if FCC might indeed start
requiring IBOC in radios - maybe phase it in like they did with ATSC
tuners in large then smaller TVs.

With the terrific programming I get free, I can't even imagine paying
for radio.

disclaimer: I worked for the engineering company that produced the
"proof of concept" receiver for Ibiquity. Yep, I helped design North
America's first ever terrestrial digital radio receiver. It was about
seven RU high. I thought digital radio was a neat idea then and I
stitll do.


"Will definitely drive costs down. Wonder if FCC might indeed start
requiring IBOC in radios - maybe phase it in like they did with ATSC
tuners in large then smaller TVs."

Boring - have been through this befo

"Digital Audio Broadcasting Systems and Their Impact on the
Terrestrial Radio Broadcast Service "

15. We will not establish a deadline for radio stations to convert to
digital broadcasting. Stations may decide if, and when, they will
provide digital service to the public. Several reasons support this
decision. First, unlike television licensees, radio stations are under
no statutory mandate to convert to a digital format. Second, a hard
deadline is unnecessary given that DAB uses an in-band technology that
does not require the allocation of additional spectrum. Thus, the
spectrum reclamation needs that exist for DTV do not exist here.
Moreover, there is no evidence in the record that marketplace forces
cannot propel the DAB conversion forward, and effective markets tend
to provide better solutions than regulatory schemes.

16. iBiquity argues that in the early stages of the transition, the
Commission should favor and protect existing analog signals. It states
that this could be accomplished by limiting the power level and
bandwidth occupancy of the digital carriers in the hybrid mode. At
some point in the future, when the Commission determines there is
sufficient market penetration of digital receivers, iBiquity asserts
that the public interest will be best served by reversing this
presumption to favor digital operations. At that time, broadcasters
will no longer need to protect analog operations by limiting the
digital signal and stations should have the option to implement all-
digital broadcasts. We decline to adopt iBiquity's presumption policy
because it is too early in the DAB conversion process for us to
consider such a mechanism. We find that such a policy, if adopted now,
may have unknown and unintended consequences for a new technology that
has yet to be accepted by the public or widely adopted by the
broadcast industry.

http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-IMPA...-15/i15922.htm
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On Dec 1, 12:15 am, RHF wrote:
On Nov 30, 2:34 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:
- Top 10 technology flops
-
- HD Radio. After more than a decade, everybody's transmitting,
- but nobody's listening. It'll catch on eventually, when it
- comes standard in all AM/FM tuners.
-

IBOC Crock,

I predict that before 2015 every 'new' US Car and Truck
sold will have an IBOC 'Compatible' "HD" AM/FM Radios as
'basic' OEM Factory Installed Standard Equipment.
-while- Satellite Radio will still be an 'option' on many.

# 1 - The "Free" Over-the-Air AM/FM Radio Broadcasters and
Advertisers will want Demand-It* to stay competitive in the
Market Place with the 'New-Media'
* Reason/Justification - In the Public Interest.

# 2 - The FCC will Mandate* that all 'new' AM/FM Radios that
are made-in or imported-into the USA by about the Year
2015 {or before} be IBOC 'Compatible' "HD" AM/FM Radios.
* That's All Car and Truck AM/FM Radios
* That's All Consumer Electronics with Built-in AM/FM Radios
* That Includings All Stand-a-Lone AM/FM Radios and
AM/FM Clock-Radios
* Reason/Justification - In the Public Interest.

My Personal Top 10 Technology Radio/TV Successes . . .
1 - AM Radio
2 - Shortwave Radio
3 - FM Radio
4 - TV
* 5 - Combining an 'AM & FM Radio' in One Box
6 - FM Stereo Radio
7 - Color TV
8 - Cable TV
9 - Satellite TV
10 - HDTV

it's a vision thing ~ RHF
.
NOTE -IF- The 'Top 10 Technology Flops' List that does not
have 8-Track Tape on it - Ain't No List At All ! ~ RHF
.


"I predict that before 2015 every 'new' US Car and Truck
sold will have an IBOC 'Compatible' "HD" AM/FM Radios as
'basic' OEM Factory Installed Standard Equipment.
-while- Satellite Radio will still be an 'option' on many."

You are plainly ignorant:

"Ford SYNC, HD Radio and the state of competition"

"Now here's the killer: Ford is making SYNC available as a factory-
installed option for just over $300. And for the top-end trim levels,
like the Focus SES, it'll be a standard feature. That's right...
standard. So if you have an iPod, or Zune (ha!), you can now control
it easily while you drive. If you have a cellphone that supports a
service like mSpot, or a phone that supports Pandora, you can now
listen to them in your car... easily. And this will have a ripple-
effect throughout all the other auto manufacturers as the platform is
licensed to GM, Honda and Toyota (this is Microsoft we're talking
about)..."

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/fo...mpetition.html

"Ford Gets More Sirius"

"Sirius Satellite Radio and Ford announced today that they are
targeting a 70% installation rate for the Ford and Mercury brand of
automobiles. Ford had previously announced that their Lincoln brand
was effectively at standard equipment. This commitment with the Ford
and Mercury brands is a substantial step for Sirius, as it brings Ford
up to a similar installation pace as Chrysler."

http://siriusbuzz.com/ford-gets-more-sirius.php
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