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On Dec 25, 5:24 am, BCBlazysusan wrote:
I have heard the advertisement that the new CCrane has the twin coil
for BCB reception. How is the twin coil in this radio the same as the
actual add-on? They can't fit all that in the radio. ;-)

Is it really the same antenna as the add-on? I have wanted to get the
Twin Coil then I heard the commercial, what gives?


If you even have to ask this question, let me tell about this bridge
in NYC which I have for sale CHEAP ...

Best,

Joe

P.S. C. Crane has ALWAYS been known for its "hype" - sometimes it
actually does reflect the quality of the particular product being
described (e.g. The CCrane Twin-Coil Antenna) but, just as often, NOT
(e.g. the CCRadio-SW).
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On Dec 30, 2:57*pm, Joe Analssandrini
If you even have to ask this question, let me tell about this bridge
in NYC which I have for sale CHEAP ...

Best,

Joe

P.S. C. Crane has ALWAYS been known for its "hype" - sometimes it
actually does reflect the quality of the particular product being
described (e.g. The CCrane Twin-Coil Antenna) but, just as often, NOT
(e.g. the CCRadio-SW).


Ummm, exactly the reason I asked. You say "has always been known for
hype" then follow that with "sometimes it actually does reflect the
quality".....that is why the question was asked. ;-)

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On Dec 30, 10:58 pm, BCBlazysusan wrote:
P.S. C. Crane has ALWAYS been known for its "hype" - sometimes it
actually does reflect the quality of the particular product being
described (e.g. The CCrane Twin-Coil Antenna) but, just as often, NOT
(e.g. the CCRadio-SW).


Ummm, exactly the reason I asked. You say "has always been known for
hype" then follow that with "sometimes it actually does reflect the
quality".....that is why the question was asked. ;-)


I can understand your asking the question and I apologize for the
"flip" answer.

Here are a few resources for you to examine. The first one is
Passband's:

http://www.passband.com/radio-antenn...ar-comparable/

Passband also has some other news items about this radio. Go to their
home page and click on All Updates: Receiver and Antenna News (40)

And here are RadioIntel's reviews of both products:

http://www.radiointel.com/review-redsunrp2100.htm plus
http://www.radiointel.com/review-ccrane_twincoil.htm .

There are some other review sites as well. Just "Google" either
product.

Even though some of these reviews are older, it should immediately be
apparent that, just on the basis of its size, the standalone C. Crane
Twin-Coil Antenna would be totally unable to fit into a radio the size
of the Redsun RP-2100/CCRadio-SW.

I hate to say this, but it appears to me that MW DXing (for which the
Twin-Coil Antenna was designed) may be on its way out. If IBOC becomes
widespread, you can forget about any serious listening on the MW band.
Try it for yourself. With any MW station using IBOC, you will hear
nothing but noise 10 kHz below and 10 kHz above, especially at night.
And if you try to listen to a somewhat distant MW station that is
suffering from selective-fading distortion and you turn on your
synchronous detection circuit (if your radio has one - the Redsun/C.
Crane does not) to eliminate this, just wait until you hear the racket
in the background of the station if it has its IBOC turned on!

In my opinion, MW (AM) IBOC is a total disaster. Should the MW band go
totally digital, what might happen to communications in the event of a
regional disaster? The only AM signals that can reliably reach long
distances, necessary in a country the size of ours, is ANALOG AM. But
I digress ...

From the reviews, I gather that the Redsun RP-2100 in its various
guises is a satisfying radio to its owners. If I were buying one, I
should buy from Universal Radio which sells the Kaito version for
$50.00 less than C. Crane sells its version:

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2100.html vs.
http://www.ccrane.com/radios/shortwa...cradio-sw.aspx

These two radios are essentially identical and, while both have a form
of "twin-coil" ferrite rod MW antenna, it is NOT the standalone C.
Crane Twin-Coil one, regardless of what is in C. Crane's "blurb.".

I myself own one of these C. Crane Twin-Coil Antennas (and it is quite
good) though I do not know how much use it will be in the relatively
near future. I do not own a Redsun RP-2100 (et al.).

Again, I do apologize for my previous and rather unhelpful reply to
you and I hope you and yours have a happy and healthy new year.

Best,

Joe
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