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I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?
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On Jan 1, 10:00*pm, Greg wrote:
I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?


Greg - It's a 'portable' AM-FM Shortwave Radio
-not- a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. ~ RHF
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Greg wrote:
I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?


Quartz clocks suck. They wander all over the place.
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My Kaito 1103 (the same circuitry as the G5) also has an unreliable clock,
and others have complained about the Degen 1103 as well--the manufacturer
might have spent a few more cents on the clock chip.

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I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?



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RHF wrote:

On Jan 1, 10:00 pm, Greg wrote:

I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?



Greg - It's a 'portable' AM-FM Shortwave Radio
-not- a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. ~ RHF
.


But it should be; I feel that _any_ clock in a SW rcvr that is also
used for controlling the rig should be radio controlled. The chipsets
are so cheap now that cost is really not an excuse. Since the clock
is embedded in a rcvr, the mcu could select the source WWVB, WWV, CHU,
etc. as propagation dictates.

Regards,

Michael


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On Jan 1, 11:00*pm, Greg wrote:
I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?


I have a G5, and I like it very much, but yes I have been having
problems qwith the clock as, it seems to gain time on my radio as
well. But I really like the SSB and fine tuning, which works similar
to a BFO. Have you had any problems with images? As the radio is
only dual conversion.
Fred Burgess
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On Jan 2, 1:00*am, Greg wrote:
I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?


As with yours, the clock in my Degen gains a minute in slightly over
a week. That's abysmal performance for a quartz timed clock although
it would be spot on for a Rolex chronometer.
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Greg wrote:

I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?


You can't expect a quartz controlled computer clock to maintain atomic
time accuracy.

Every time you startup or restart you can have the computer query an
Internet time server. If you keep the computer on all the time open the
date and time control panel and un-check then check the "set date and
time automatically" to get the computer to update from the server.

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msg wrote:
RHF wrote:

On Jan 1, 10:00 pm, Greg wrote:

I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?



Greg - It's a 'portable' AM-FM Shortwave Radio
-not- a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. ~ RHF
.


But it should be; I feel that _any_ clock in a SW rcvr that is also
used for controlling the rig should be radio controlled. The chipsets
are so cheap now that cost is really not an excuse. Since the clock
is embedded in a rcvr, the mcu could select the source WWVB, WWV, CHU,
etc. as propagation dictates.

Regards,

Michael


I don't know of any clocks that synchronize automatically to WWV or CHU.
As far as I know there's WWVB and a station in Germany.

The cheapest most accurate clocks are the ones that use the AC mains for
a timebase.
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On Jan 2, 8:43*am, msg wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jan 1, 10:00 pm, Greg wrote:


I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.


I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?


Greg - It's a 'portable' AM-FM Shortwave Radio
-not- a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. ~ RHF
*.


But it should be; I feel that _any_ clock in a SW rcvr that is also
used for controlling the rig should be radio controlled. The chipsets
are so cheap now that cost is really not an excuse. Since the clock
is embedded in a rcvr, the mcu could select the source WWVB, WWV, CHU,
etc. as propagation dictates.

Regards,

Michael


MSG,

My Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Radios default to WWV
on 10.000 MHz when they lose Power. -but- They Do Not
have an Automatic 'Atomic' Clock Setting or Reseting Function.
Nice if that were so... But It Ain't.

That being said, I would agree with you that at a certain "Price
Point"; all Shortwave Radios should; as you suggest have an
Automated 'Atomic' Clock Setting and Re-setting Feature.

some day may be -but- not today ~ RHF
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