"Steve" wrote in message
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You are being obtuse. We are talking about MW and FM broadcast stations
and
such, not point to point communications devices.

If that's what you're talking about, you should choose your words more
carefully.

You are, as I said, being obtuse. And ingenuous.

Then they are aware that radio broadcasting is a business, whether for
profit or not, with the possible exception of state run facilities, which
are a totally different animal.

Nope. They are aware of that, too.

Many state broadcasters are run for political gain or to provide employment
for supporters. They are many times not run in a businesslike manner.

Local stations in their local service areas are not being drowned by
interference in the US.

Yes, they are. You obviously don't spend much time listening to the
radio.

Cite, please, a few examples, of US stations being interferred with in their
local interference free countours.

Actually, my opinions and actions are based almost totally on listener
input.

Garbage in, garbage out....

You had better decide. Either listener input is good or bad, but it can not
be both.

When you have talked with about 10,000 listeners a year, get back to me on
this.

I'll get back to you when I see some evidence of your actually having
listened to the radio once or twice.

I listen all day and most of the night.

People like you don't, and perhaps can't, look beyond the blinders you
wear. Five years from now you'll probably still be a luddite, but
others will read your posts and feel embarrassed for you.

I am not interested in programming something I like. I am interested in
finding out what listeners like, and having our team of about 70 programmers
use listener guidance to create radio that appeals to large groups of
listeners. Talking to listeners is hardly embarrassing; talking as if you
knew what you were saying when you don't is.

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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You mean business, don't you? You appear to be a businessman who has
nothing but disdain for radio.

Radio, except for government run facilities, is a business. Even private
sector non-commercial stations, like HCJB, are businesses with budgets
and
systems intended to make them run efficiently.

Most broadcasters know that they can not have a successful business
without
listeners. So I have considerable respect for the listener and spend most
of
my time finding out at the street level what they want from radio
stations
in their market. MW and FM stations' markets are, today, the metropolitan
area where they operate, not someplace far away... so for such cases,
"listener" is synonymous with "local listener."

Having lived and worked many decades ago in a nation where, at one time,
domestic SW was the only "local" radio for a significant part of the
population, I can still remember when SW might have fit a commercial
station's business model. Today, in most places, it does not. Any disdain
I
feel is for those who think that yesterday's radio is relevant today.

Ain't that the nation that tossed your lying ass out?


When you have risked your life and property to defend democracy, let me
know.

Please, enlighten us once again with your tales!

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Please, enlighten us once again with your tales!



Please enlighten us once again about how you bought 10,000 rounds of Russian
ammo.

dxAce wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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You mean business, don't you? You appear to be a businessman who has
nothing but disdain for radio.
Radio, except for government run facilities, is a business. Even private
sector non-commercial stations, like HCJB, are businesses with budgets
and
systems intended to make them run efficiently.

Most broadcasters know that they can not have a successful business
without
listeners. So I have considerable respect for the listener and spend most
of
my time finding out at the street level what they want from radio
stations
in their market. MW and FM stations' markets are, today, the metropolitan
area where they operate, not someplace far away... so for such cases,
"listener" is synonymous with "local listener."

Having lived and worked many decades ago in a nation where, at one time,
domestic SW was the only "local" radio for a significant part of the
population, I can still remember when SW might have fit a commercial
station's business model. Today, in most places, it does not. Any disdain
I
feel is for those who think that yesterday's radio is relevant today.
Ain't that the nation that tossed your lying ass out?

When you have risked your life and property to defend democracy, let me
know.

Please, enlighten us once again with your tales!


Yeah, even I want to hear about how you defend democracy by leaving
the conflict.

The heroes I know, who risked life and property to defend democracy
took up arms and brought the fight to those who would challenge democracy.

There is no risk in leaving the fight behind.


And as I said some time ago, the only thing I've ever heard you
renounce is your citizenship.

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Please, enlighten us once again with your tales!



Please enlighten us once again about how you bought 10,000 rounds of Russian
ammo.

Ya just plunk the money down. Pretty simple, oh faux one!

So please, tell us once again how you 'risked your life and property to defend
democracy'.

On Jan 7, 6:02*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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Local stations in their local service areas are not being drowned by
interference in the US.

Yes, they are. You obviously don't spend much time listening to the
radio.

Cite, please, a few examples, of US stations being interferred with in
their
local interference free countours.

Just about all of the ones I hear in NYC.

What NYC stations are being interferred with inside their licensed
interference free contours? I do not know of one.

I can't find any that aren't being interfered with.

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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Yeah, even I want to hear about how you defend democracy by leaving
the conflict.

For more than half a year, my colleague at Diario El Tiempo and I voiced
opposition to the military junta in Ecuador by talking and writing about
the promised return to democracy. He disappeared (or was disappeared) and
I was given 24 hours to leave... the fellows in uniforms had rifles, so
there was not a "road to appeal" available.
The heroes I know, who risked life and property to defend democracy
took up arms and brought the fight to those who would challenge
democracy.

And some took up themightiest sword, the pen.


But in each case, they took the fight to the enemy. Leaving doesn't
risk, nor does it defend.



There is no risk in leaving the fight behind.

I would get a good chuckle out of finding out how you think I could have
remained, given I was escorted to the airport; the intent was to silence the
radio stations by nationalization, not to silence me personally.

Tell that to Diego Ortiz of El Tiempo. Or to his widow and children.


And you're now in his class? Um....idontthinkso.

I was not similarly treated only because the junta was concerned about
disappearing a foreigner.

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Jan 7, 6:02 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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Local stations in their local service areas are not being drowned by
interference in the US.

Yes, they are. You obviously don't spend much time listening to the
radio.

Cite, please, a few examples, of US stations being interferred with in
their
local interference free countours.

Just about all of the ones I hear in NYC.

What NYC stations are being interferred with inside their licensed
interference free contours? I do not know of one.

I can't find any that aren't being interfered with.

The company I am with has three NYC metro stations, and none is being
interfered with. Neither is any other, per our CE who goes to the SBE
meetings and would have heard about this.

David Eduardo wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
Yeah, even I want to hear about how you defend democracy by leaving
the conflict.

For more than half a year, my colleague at Diario El Tiempo and I voiced
opposition to the military junta in Ecuador by talking and writing about
the promised return to democracy. He disappeared (or was disappeared) and
I was given 24 hours to leave... the fellows in uniforms had rifles, so
there was not a "road to appeal" available.
The heroes I know, who risked life and property to defend democracy
took up arms and brought the fight to those who would challenge
democracy.

And some took up themightiest sword, the pen.


But in each case, they took the fight to the enemy. Leaving doesn't
risk, nor does it defend.



There is no risk in leaving the fight behind.

I would get a good chuckle out of finding out how you think I could have
remained, given I was escorted to the airport; the intent was to silence the
radio stations by nationalization, not to silence me personally.

So, regale us yet again with your tale of selling the radio stations which were
nationalized.

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
Yeah, even I want to hear about how you defend democracy by leaving
the conflict.

For more than half a year, my colleague at Diario El Tiempo and I
voiced
opposition to the military junta in Ecuador by talking and writing
about
the promised return to democracy. He disappeared (or was disappeared)
and
I was given 24 hours to leave... the fellows in uniforms had rifles,
so
there was not a "road to appeal" available.
The heroes I know, who risked life and property to defend democracy
took up arms and brought the fight to those who would challenge
democracy.

And some took up themightiest sword, the pen.


But in each case, they took the fight to the enemy. Leaving
doesn't
risk, nor does it defend.



There is no risk in leaving the fight behind.

I would get a good chuckle out of finding out how you think I could have
remained, given I was escorted to the airport; the intent was to silence
the
radio stations by nationalization, not to silence me personally.

So, regale us yet again with your tale of selling the radio stations which
were
nationalized.

I did not ever sell any station in Ecuador. The government wished to
nationalize the station group. In the 24 hours I had before being put on a
plane (it was the era when there were not flights every day to the US out of
Quito, which was then only a daylight airport) I had my attorney (Lic.
Benjamín Cevallos assisted by Lic. Segundo Maiguashca) transfer most of the
stations to an employee cooperative, headed by Ulpiano Orozco. Since the
junta felt it was " a people's government" and was similar to that of Gral.
Velasco in Perú, they could not take the stations away from "the workers"
which was my intent... both to save their jobs and to keep the government
from closing the stations. The shares of two frequencies were transferred to
my daughter's name, and the whole deal made contingent on this last step,
under the hope the government would leave the whole arrangement alone due to
the adverse publicity messing with an employee cooperative would bring.

Since I had a VP / General Manager position in what is now the US' 13th
largest market within 2 weeks of leaving, I came out both alive and
employed. The experience of building a dozen stations in just a few years,
learning how to sell them and manage them, was of immense value... and given
the economic conditions of Ecuador today, probably as positive as the whole
thing was negative.