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David wrote:

Mike wrote:
On Jan 17, 11:25�am, David wrote:
Mike wrote:
David wrote:
Why not just post a link to the Google results page, instead of posting
each individual site?
Why not follow rules for punctuation? �Those of us with licenses know
the rules require that communications be as clear as possible, in the
interest of keeping monkey chatter to a minimum.
(Now, Google "monkey chatter" for everyone.)
I can go back 5 years and find the same RHF posts.
What's so wrong with posting individual URLs? If you aren't interested
in the info, why bother clicking on it? Newbies, the ones that might
benefit the most from such actions, may not understand how to properly
conduct a wide-ranging search. Sometimes the search engines bury you
in URLs unrelated to what you're looking for. Castigating RHF and
DXAce simply because they post links seems to be focusing negativity
on the MOST USEFUL things those guys do in here. You'd think that you,
more than most, would be encouraging these guys to spend more time
posting links instead of ridiculing YOU daily.
Punctuation? I teach public speaking and I find that most people that
even try to have perfect grammar are suffering from delusions
regarding their own self-grandeur. Understandability is the key and I
don't have any problem understanding what RHF is trying to say. He may
not be the best speller in the world, but his efforts at disseminating
antenna info hardly are suffering from any non-standard spelling or
punctuation. There are many contributors in here with good punctuation
and spelling, but nothing of any real value to read.
If you go back five years, you'll see that RHF was posting DIFFERENT
links back then. To be honest, I think the quality of his links has
improved significantly. To be honest, going back three years doesn't
show a whole lot of evolution transpiring in your posts. Talk about
"monkey chatter"....
To be honest, RRS is infinitely better than it was in the mid-90s. The
racists and neo-Nazis that use to make about half the posts in here
have disappeared. If you don't like RRS, there are now plenty of other
places (with moderation!) where �you can get info.
Do you really believe, David, that your own posts convey as much
valuable info as do at least some of the posts of Steve and Roy? I'm
truly sorry that you've been picked on as much as you have, but your
posts are NOT the reason I've been reading this RRS without posting.
MWBRYANT
I know I'm way less rude than DX Asshole. �I know that proper
punctuation facilitates easier communications, especially for the
visually impaired. �I know that throwing up a bunch of information, some
of it contradicting other of it, is not as helpful as when someone
speaks from personal experience.


1. Passive aggression can be as irritating (and as ridiculous) as
direct aggression. Both some of the most evil and stupid people I've
ever met were far less rude than Steve Lare. Even rude people can be
useful sources of information. (Thanks for today's Top News link,
Steve!)
2. I'm visually impaired. Check the archives. My R-75 has the voice
mod. RHF's stuff don't bother me. Why do you feel that you speak for
the visually-disabled?
3. You would think that a professional pseudo-journalist, like
yourself, would realize that providing contradictory links shows
respect for democratic free choice. Let the reader discern which they
choose to believe.
4. If the filter is going to be that we should be limited to
discussing
only that which is experienced-based, why are you still here? Are you
really suggesting that your real experience with shortwave radio comes
anywhere near the real-world DXing experience of Steve Lare or the
real antenna info being facilitated by RHF? I think these guys are
winning on the level of who has the most useful personal experiences
to convey.

David, exactly, what is your role in the community, again? Are you
here to tell us that we're members of a dead hobby?

Congratulations.

MWBRYANT



I have no idea what RHF's personal knowledge of antennas entails. I
know he puts up links to antennas that don't work very well, are
sometimes overpriced, etc. He just seems to be repeating things.

FYI I used to provide the bulk of EE language loggings for a now-defunct
DXer magazine. I logged Tahiti's little flea-power on 15.XXX in
downtown Houston, in the daytime, on one of my 2 R-390As, and my 120'
steel random wire. Confirmed.


Well, it was 20 kW, hardly 'flea-power', and, it was on 15.xxx.

Also confirmed here, but on 11825 in 1983.

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David wrote:

I have no idea what RHF's personal knowledge of antennas entails. *I
know he puts up links to antennas that don't work very well, are
sometimes overpriced, etc. *He just seems to be repeating things.


He's giving people plenty of different links to info about something
you have to use if you use an actual radio - antennas. given that you
no longer use radios, you're reasons for not caring about such info
are obvious.


FYI I used to provide the bulk of EE language loggings for a now-defunct
DXer magazine. *I logged Tahiti's little flea-power on 15.XXX in
downtown Houston, in the daytime, on one of my 2 R-390As, and my 120'
steel random wire. *Confirmed.


Actually Tahiti was on 15.179 with at least 20 kW. I heard it
regularly during those days on portables using just their whips.
Confirmed. (BTW, they broadcast in French...) So, your claim to
experience comes from experiences 25 years ago?


This was back in the late '80s, when the Sun was spottin' and the Cold
War has hoppin'. *SWBC was still viable back then. *GHFS was almost as
entertaining. *Since then, it's been steadily downhill, both
propagation-wise and target wise.


Life is what you make of it. While there are certainly a different
lineup of broadcasters than 20 years ago, I have no problem finding
enough stuff on the air to keep me interested. Lare's links to updated
DX info facilitates that enjoyment and provides a much better source
of info than those old club publications of the '80s.

The cultural aspect of SWL cannot be disregarded and frankly I'm shocked
that so many "American" people here are listening to other cultures but
not hearing the message. *The USA is a rogue nation. *The USA is the
greatest threat to world peace. *What! *Impossible!


You sound like your mindset was shaped by listening to Radio Moscow in
the 1970's. Like you, I'm sometimes dismayed by American foreign
policy, but this is simply not the forum for such conversations. There
are plenty of other places where such conversations would be welcome,
but I sure hope that you can refine your observations to be more
specific. Otherwise, you'll get eaten alive in the real political
forums. Also, I've noticed the Lare seldom initiates his own political
observations - he mainly responds to people, like you. So,,,,,,,,,

I make no apologies for being annoying to bigots


How about just apologizing for being annoying? You were around in here
back in the old days when this place was awash with real bigots, like
Kevin Strom. I sure don't remember you feeling the need to stand up to
them like you perceive you are against Steve.

David, you're negativity against shortwave radio is far more annoying
in a shortwave group than are Lare's persistent insults against you or
the Canadians. After seven years, most of us just laugh at Steve's
posts. Like we do with Cuhulin. But almost everytime I read one of
your posts, I want to spit on my monitor. Why do you stay in here?
Admit it, you enjoy "tweaking" people's noses, by constantly using
your "experience" to tell us how outdated we all are.

Enough. I made my point.

Off to celebrate my 50th birthday,

MWBRYANT
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Mike wrote:

David wrote:

I have no idea what RHF's personal knowledge of antennas entails. I
know he puts up links to antennas that don't work very well, are
sometimes overpriced, etc. He just seems to be repeating things.


He's giving people plenty of different links to info about something
you have to use if you use an actual radio - antennas. given that you
no longer use radios, you're reasons for not caring about such info
are obvious.


FYI I used to provide the bulk of EE language loggings for a now-defunct
DXer magazine. I logged Tahiti's little flea-power on 15.XXX in
downtown Houston, in the daytime, on one of my 2 R-390As, and my 120'
steel random wire. Confirmed.


Actually Tahiti was on 15.179 with at least 20 kW. I heard it
regularly during those days on portables using just their whips.
Confirmed. (BTW, they broadcast in French...) So, your claim to
experience comes from experiences 25 years ago?


This was back in the late '80s, when the Sun was spottin' and the Cold
War has hoppin'. SWBC was still viable back then. GHFS was almost as
entertaining. Since then, it's been steadily downhill, both
propagation-wise and target wise.


Life is what you make of it. While there are certainly a different
lineup of broadcasters than 20 years ago, I have no problem finding
enough stuff on the air to keep me interested. Lare's links to updated
DX info facilitates that enjoyment and provides a much better source
of info than those old club publications of the '80s.

The cultural aspect of SWL cannot be disregarded and frankly I'm shocked
that so many "American" people here are listening to other cultures but
not hearing the message. The USA is a rogue nation. The USA is the
greatest threat to world peace. What! Impossible!


You sound like your mindset was shaped by listening to Radio Moscow in
the 1970's. Like you, I'm sometimes dismayed by American foreign
policy, but this is simply not the forum for such conversations. There
are plenty of other places where such conversations would be welcome,
but I sure hope that you can refine your observations to be more
specific. Otherwise, you'll get eaten alive in the real political
forums. Also, I've noticed the Lare seldom initiates his own political
observations - he mainly responds to people, like you. So,,,,,,,,,

I make no apologies for being annoying to bigots


How about just apologizing for being annoying? You were around in here
back in the old days when this place was awash with real bigots, like
Kevin Strom. I sure don't remember you feeling the need to stand up to
them like you perceive you are against Steve.

David, you're negativity against shortwave radio is far more annoying
in a shortwave group than are Lare's persistent insults against you or
the Canadians. After seven years, most of us just laugh at Steve's
posts. Like we do with Cuhulin. But almost everytime I read one of
your posts, I want to spit on my monitor. Why do you stay in here?
Admit it, you enjoy "tweaking" people's noses, by constantly using
your "experience" to tell us how outdated we all are.

Enough. I made my point.

Off to celebrate my 50th birthday,


Happy Birthday. I remember my 50th, and how great I felt. It all went down hill
from there!


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The DXAce wrote:

Happy Birthday. I remember my 50th, and how great I felt. It all went down hill
from there!


Why thank you, Steve. I think that's the kindest thing you've ever
posted to me! Don't let anyone ever keep you from posting your links.
Your posted logs on Tanzania back in the summer were awesome. Got me
another country!

I hope you are doing well.

MWBRYANT


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Mike wrote:

The DXAce wrote:

Happy Birthday. I remember my 50th, and how great I felt. It all went down hill
from there!


Why thank you, Steve. I think that's the kindest thing you've ever
posted to me! Don't let anyone ever keep you from posting your links.
Your posted logs on Tanzania back in the summer were awesome. Got me
another country!


Well, you do mean Zanzibar, correct? At any rate, congratulations on a new one. Don't
let the naysayers get ya down!

One thing I've noted of late is that 11735 is sometimes absent. Must be they have
occasional transmitter problems. But, when they are on, they do have some interesting
music, and of course the sometimes English at 1800.




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DX Ace:

Well, you do mean Zanzibar, correct? At any rate, congratulations on a new one. Don't
let the naysayers get ya down!


Well, you are right. In the NASWA country list it counts as Zanzibar,
though that area is now incorporated into the nation known as
Tanzania. The thrill of hearing a new country is what keeps me in this
hobby. Your DX logs serve as valuable targets for me to attempt.
Thanks.


One thing I've noted of late is that 11735 is sometimes absent. Must be they have
occasional transmitter problems. But, when they are on, they do have some interesting
music, and of course the sometimes English at 1800.


Thanks, again. I was wondering if my recent problems in hearing them
on 11735 might be related either to propagation or antenna problems.
Thanks for clearing that up.

Take it easy!

Mike
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Mike wrote:

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Actually Tahiti was on 15.179 with at least 20 kW. I heard it
regularly during those days on portables using just their whips.
Confirmed. (BTW, they broadcast in French...) So, your claim to
experience comes from experiences 25 years ago?


I don't like to intrude on these ****ing matches, but hey, don't
dis mature experience; sometimes the art of the past is far better
than that of the present.

Regards,

Michael
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dxAce wrote:

Mike wrote:

The DXAce wrote:

Happy Birthday. I remember my 50th, and how great I felt. It all went down hill
from there!


Why thank you, Steve. I think that's the kindest thing you've ever
posted to me! Don't let anyone ever keep you from posting your links.
Your posted logs on Tanzania back in the summer were awesome. Got me
another country!


Well, you do mean Zanzibar, correct? At any rate, congratulations on a new one. Don't
let the naysayers get ya down!

One thing I've noted of late is that 11735 is sometimes absent. Must be they have
occasional transmitter problems. But, when they are on, they do have some interesting
music, and of course the sometimes English at 1800.


Thinking of Tanzania itself (which is currently inactive out of Dar-es-Salaam, operating
on 5050), I got very lucky a few years ago when I noticed that another DX'er had received
a QSL from them. I had sent reports in the past but had not received a reply. So I zipped
off a copy of my report from 1993 and was fortunate to receive a QSL.

Here is an example of the card:

http://www.antique-corner.com/SWLQSL/tanzan.htm

This is a hobby where patience is often required.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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y'all wimmins,,,, wait a minute.I need to go pee pee.
cuhulin

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Tarzan and Jungle Jim old movies were filmed in Tanzania,,,, weren't
they?
cuhulin

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