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On Feb 3, 6:35*pm, wrote:
On Feb 3, 5:08 pm, RHF wrote: SAN-EARTH M5C Conductive Cement for Grounding Systems http://www.sankosha-usa.com/sanearth.asp SAN-EARTH is used to build Conductive Concrete Grounding Electrodes. SAN-EARTH absorbs moisture from the surrounding soil and hardens to become a Conductive Solid. SAN-EARTH covered Copper Electrodes last ten times longer than Bare Copper Ground Wwires. Note - The surface area of the Electrode is dramatically increased, Resistance to Ground is substantially reduced and surge Impedance is lowered significantly. SAN-EARTH Electrodes provide the low Resistance Ground that is essential to any Lightning Protection System. SAN-EARTH Technical Reviewhttp://www.sankosha-usa.com/pdf/san-earth-tech..pdf Typical Installation of an In-the-Ground Radial {Lateral Electrode} using San-Earth.http://www.sankosha-usa.com/pdf/san-earth-lateral.pdf QUESTIONS : Has Anybody Used This Stuff ? How Does The Stuff Work ? Would You Buy / Use It Again ? i want to know - cause iane ~ RHF {pomkia} *. -ps- Telamon be sure to Count* this as another one of my 'Clueless Posts' -cause- IT IS ! ;-{ Plus Extra Credit for the : Cut, Copy and Paste Stuff. ![]() * Rec.Radio.Shortwave Newsgroup Readers : Please I Need Your Votes ! -and- I Want Your Votes ! In this Weeks Race for the RRS "Clueless Troll" Award. *. Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antennas Group =http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf GoTo =http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ The SWL Antenna Discussion Group =http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna HELP =http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna NEWS =http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna INFO =http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf * * * All Are Welcome : Including ELMERS and 'Want-to-be-Elmers' plus plain old "Mister-Know-It-Alls"; and even those Newbees with "I Know This Is A Really Dumb Question - But _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ " *. Shortwave Radio Listener QSL Reports News & Info Grouphttp://groups.google.com/group/shortwave-listener-qsl-reports Read & Post Your Shortwave Listener (SWL) Reception Reports SWL-QSL-REPORTS =http://tinyurl.com/3awlyr *. The Shortwave Listener's Blessing : SWL BLESSING =http://tinyurl.com/s2bjm May You Never Tire of Listening to the Radio and Always have Strong Signals and Noise Free Reception ~ RHF {ibid}http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/9233 *. Tous Sont Bienvenus ! - - - Groupe par Radio d'auditeur d'onde courte pour des Antennes de SWLhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ *. Alle Sind Willkommen ! - - - Shortwave Radiozuhörer Gruppe für SWL Antennenhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ *. Tutti Sono Benvenuti ! - - - Gruppo Radiofonico dell'ascoltatore di onda corta per le Antenne di SWLhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ *. Todos São Bem-vindos ! - - - Grupo de Rádio do ouvinte do Shortwave para Antenas de SWLhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ *. ¡Todos Son Agradables! - - - Grupo de Radio del oyente de la onda corta para las Antenas de SWLhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ *. = = = = Plain Old American-English Translation = = = = All are Welcome - - - To Join the Shortwave Listeners (SWL) Antenna Group on YAHOO !http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ *. *| *| *| / \ .......!....... - - I never heard of this. - If it didn't come out of Japan, I'd suspect it was snake oil. -*However, googling I found other conductive concrete links. - This one looks pretty cool : - http://www.cement.org/tech/cct_con_d...conductive.asp - M...Sushi, Wow a Concrete Bridge with a building De-Icing System. [ Electric Road Bed Warmer ] Roca Spur Bridge located on Nebraska Highway 77 South about 24 km (15 miles) south of Lincoln, NE -source- University of Nebraska . Conductive Cement Materials {Formula} : * Steel Fibers of variable lengths amounted to 1.5% * Carbon Products of different particle sizes amounted to 25% per volume of the Conductive Concrete * Crushed Limestone of 13-mm (0.5-in.) maximum size * Nebraska 47B Fine Aggregate were also used in the mix -ps- Using locally available {within State} Rock products. Question - Couldn't you make/mix {Home Brew} your own "Stuff" ? Oops ! - What happens when someone Drives Over It with a Set of Chains-On ? Underground Conduit - When they ran the Power Output http://www.commserv.ucsb.edu/infrast...nderground.asp Lines from the Solar Array around the side of the House to the Electrical Service Enterance at the far corner of the Garage. They used a Pink Colored Concert Slurry as protection against Ground Diggers. {Oops} ~ RHF |
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On Feb 3, 10:56 pm, RHF wrote:
On Feb 3, 6:35 pm, wrote: On Feb 3, 5:08 pm, RHF wrote: SAN-EARTH M5C Conductive Cement for Grounding Systems http://www.sankosha-usa.com/sanearth.asp SAN-EARTH is used to build Conductive Concrete Grounding Electrodes. SAN-EARTH absorbs moisture from the surrounding soil and hardens to become a Conductive Solid. SAN-EARTH covered Copper Electrodes last ten times longer than Bare Copper Ground Wwires. Note - The surface area of the Electrode is dramatically increased, Resistance to Ground is substantially reduced and surge Impedance is lowered significantly. SAN-EARTH Electrodes provide the low Resistance Ground that is essential to any Lightning Protection System. SAN-EARTH Technical Reviewhttp://www.sankosha-usa.com/pdf/san-earth-tech.pdf Typical Installation of an In-the-Ground Radial {Lateral Electrode} using San-Earth.http://www.sankosha-usa.com/pdf/san-earth-lateral.pdf QUESTIONS : Has Anybody Used This Stuff ? How Does The Stuff Work ? Would You Buy / Use It Again ? i want to know - cause iane ~ RHF {pomkia} . -ps- Telamon be sure to Count* this as another one of my 'Clueless Posts' -cause- IT IS ! ;-{ Plus Extra Credit for the : Cut, Copy and Paste Stuff. ![]() * Rec.Radio.Shortwave Newsgroup Readers : Please I Need Your Votes ! -and- I Want Your Votes ! In this Weeks Race for the RRS "Clueless Troll" Award. . Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antennas Group =http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf GoTo =http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ The SWL Antenna Discussion Group =http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna HELP =http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna NEWS =http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna INFO =http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf * * * All Are Welcome : Including ELMERS and 'Want-to-be-Elmers' plus plain old "Mister-Know-It-Alls"; and even those Newbees with "I Know This Is A Really Dumb Question - But _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ " . Shortwave Radio Listener QSL Reports News & Info Grouphttp://groups.google.com/group/shortwave-listener-qsl-reports Read & Post Your Shortwave Listener (SWL) Reception Reports SWL-QSL-REPORTS =http://tinyurl.com/3awlyr . The Shortwave Listener's Blessing : SWL BLESSING =http://tinyurl.com/s2bjm May You Never Tire of Listening to the Radio and Always have Strong Signals and Noise Free Reception ~ RHF {ibid}http://groups..yahoo.com/group/Short...a/message/9233 . Tous Sont Bienvenus ! - - - Groupe par Radio d'auditeur d'onde courte pour des Antennes de SWLhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . Alle Sind Willkommen ! - - - Shortwave Radiozuhörer Gruppe für SWL Antennenhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . Tutti Sono Benvenuti ! - - - Gruppo Radiofonico dell'ascoltatore di onda corta per le Antenne di SWLhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . Todos São Bem-vindos ! - - - Grupo de Rádio do ouvinte do Shortwave para Antenas de SWLhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . ¡Todos Son Agradables! - - - Grupo de Radio del oyente de la onda corta para las Antenas de SWLhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . = = = = Plain Old American-English Translation = = = = All are Welcome - - - To Join the Shortwave Listeners (SWL) Antenna Group on YAHOO !http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . | | | / \ .......!....... - - I never heard of this. - If it didn't come out of Japan, I'd suspect it was snake oil. - However, googling I found other conductive concrete links. - This one looks pretty cool : -http://www.cement.org/tech/cct_con_design_conductive.asp - M...Sushi, Wow a Concrete Bridge with a building De-Icing System. [ Electric Road Bed Warmer ] Roca Spur Bridge located on Nebraska Highway 77 South about 24 km (15 miles) south of Lincoln, NE -source- University of Nebraska . Conductive Cement Materials {Formula} : * Steel Fibers of variable lengths amounted to 1.5% * Carbon Products of different particle sizes amounted to 25% per volume of the Conductive Concrete * Crushed Limestone of 13-mm (0.5-in.) maximum size * Nebraska 47B Fine Aggregate were also used in the mix -ps- Using locally available {within State} Rock products. Question - Couldn't you make/mix {Home Brew} your own "Stuff" ? Oops ! - What happens when someone Drives Over It with a Set of Chains-On ? Underground Conduit - When they ran the Power Outputhttp://www.commserv.ucsb.edu/infrastructure/planning/underground.asp Lines from the Solar Array around the side of the House to the Electrical Service Enterance at the far corner of the Garage. They used a Pink Colored Concert Slurry as protection against Ground Diggers. {Oops} ~ RHF . -ps- Telamon be sure to Count* this as another one of my 'Clueless Posts' -cause- IT IS ! ;-{ Plus Extra Credit for the : Cut, Copy and Paste Stuff. ![]() * Rec.Radio.Shortwave Newsgroup Readers : Please I Need Your Votes ! -and- I Want Your Votes ! In this Weeks Race for the RRS "Clueless Troll" Award. . I'm sure you can roll your own conductive cement, just like you can build something that is patented. Selling your own conductive cement would be another story. As a side note, when you deal with sheets of conductive material, the term sheet resistance (Doh!) comes into play. This is really common in chip design where you roll your own resistors. However, getting back to the cement, even though the copper wire is much lower resistance than the carbon embedded cement, the cement makes up for it with greater contact to the soil. If you watch construction in expensive areas (i.e. where you don't have land to waste), the engineers use what is generally known as geotex. They place the dirt in layers with geotex in between layers in such a manner where the slope can be steeper than is just soil was used. Well, I had a hunch and sure enough they have conductive geotex http://www.geosynthetica.net/tech_do...Geotextile.asp It gets a bit messy since some refer to heat conductivity rather than electrical conductivity. I most places with poor soil conductivity, they just use a counterpoise. You can often see the radials from satellite photographs. I have a few documented he http://www.lazygranch.com/nellis_range_beacons.htm |
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