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David Eduardo wrote:

"Rfburns" wrote in message
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On Feb 9, 11:22 pm, Telamon

Trust me. If there's a new AM/FM HD radio chip pending at Samsung or
any other place on earth iBiquity would be touting it from the roof
tops. They need any positive press they can get because to-date there
hasn't been much to report. As I said before - no demand, no HD.


The chip was most recently touted by some of iBiquity's investors, via the
heads of major broadcast groups at the SCBA conference in LA two weeks ago
Tuesday. It's written up in Radio Ink, with clear references to the coming
"HD explosion" based on the new chip.

Eddie, you're like the Titantic, you're playing music while the ship
is sinklng.


Absurd.


Absurd? Yes indeed, like your years of lies and obfuscations!


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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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..

OK, provide links to all the products your company has in development.
It
should be easy if this is all public information.

I'm not pointing out the company I work for on Usenet. Any company out
there makes forward looking statements in press releases followed by
all
the disclamers. Go read any business news outlet about any
manufacturing
company. Go read the link to the Samsung web site I posted or any other
semiconductor maker.


I'd remind you that the CEO's or COO's of several of the largest radio
companies in the US made "forward looking" statements two weeks ago at
the
SCBA conference; such statements come under considerable scrutiny by
regulatory agencies if they are not based on factual data.


Hence all the disclaimers that follow.


There were no disclaimers of the type you refer to.


If there was nothing to disclaim then it was just vague hot air. I read
the statements you refer to and what was said was not defined in any way
so disclaimers were not necessary.

Press releases that do make real promises about some product always
have disclaimers.

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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Rfburns" wrote in message
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On Feb 9, 11:22 pm, Telamon

Trust me. If there's a new AM/FM HD radio chip pending at Samsung or
any other place on earth iBiquity would be touting it from the roof
tops. They need any positive press they can get because to-date there
hasn't been much to report. As I said before - no demand, no HD.


The chip was most recently touted by some of iBiquity's investors, via the
heads of major broadcast groups at the SCBA conference in LA two weeks ago
Tuesday. It's written up in Radio Ink, with clear references to the coming
"HD explosion" based on the new chip.

Eddie, you're like the Titantic, you're playing music while the ship
is sinklng.


Absurd.


The only thing Absurd is your posts to the contrary.

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On Feb 10, 12:20*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:


I work in radio,


Why should we believe this, given all the others lies you've told here?
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On Feb 10, 12:23*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message

...

On Feb 9, 11:22 pm, Telamon


Trust me. If there's a new *AM/FM HD radio chip pending at Samsung or
any other place on earth iBiquity would be touting it from the roof
tops. *They need any positive press they can get because to-date there
hasn't been much to report. *As I said before - no demand, no HD.


The chip was most recently touted by some of iBiquity's investors, via the
heads of major broadcast groups at the SCBA conference in LA two weeks ago
Tuesday. It's written up in Radio Ink, with clear references to the coming
"HD explosion" based on the new chip.

Expect something more along the linds of an "HD fart".


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On Feb 9, 8:16*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,





*craigm wrote:
Telamon wrote:


In article ,
*craigm wrote:


Telamon wrote:


In article ,
*"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Telamon" wrote in message


...
Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on
the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion
here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and
FMBCB.


Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously,
digital as HD is digital.


Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.


Telemon,
Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development projects
on the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are
doing. Most companies do not disclose development activities until there
is a competitive reason to do so.


They are a publicly traded company and need to let their stockholders
know what they are working on. Check the news here


http://www.samsung.com/us/business/semiconductor/index.html


Really? Public companies actually tell their stockholder the details of
their development plans?


Yes. This happens every day.

Not in any company I've worked for. If what you propose were true, what
would the value of a confidentiality agreement be?


Where have you worked that sales has not stated that the latest device
will be available on some date? Sales is trying to create demand before
the parts are made so they can sell them the day the parts can ship. How
else do you think things work? You must have a pretty sheltered work
life there buddy.

Why not look at the link. Read any news service about the stock market.
Just about any company any day is telling you what the next big
development is going to be that they are working on. When I worked for a
semiconductor company I was always busting my butt to make some deadline
created in a press news release. It's no different where I work now
since I still work in manufacturing.

Believe me if Samsung is or has been working on a HD radio on a chip you
would see a press release about it on their web site. Everything else is
there like HD TV devices so why not an HD radio chip? Eduardo got you
convinced it is a big secret? Well think again.

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Dang Telamon - You KNOW EVERYTHING ! -while-
the rest of us mere mortals seem to know jack-****.

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In article
,
RHF wrote:

On Feb 9, 8:16*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,





*craigm wrote:
Telamon wrote:


In article ,
*craigm wrote:


Telamon wrote:


In article ,
*"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Telamon" wrote in
message


.
..
Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip
on
the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion
here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and
FMBCB.


Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is,
obviously,
digital as HD is digital.


Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.


Telemon,
Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development
projects
on the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are
doing. Most companies do not disclose development activities until
there
is a competitive reason to do so.


They are a publicly traded company and need to let their stockholders
know what they are working on. Check the news here


http://www.samsung.com/us/business/semiconductor/index.html


Really? Public companies actually tell their stockholder the details of
their development plans?


Yes. This happens every day.

Not in any company I've worked for. If what you propose were true, what
would the value of a confidentiality agreement be?


Where have you worked that sales has not stated that the latest device
will be available on some date? Sales is trying to create demand before
the parts are made so they can sell them the day the parts can ship. How
else do you think things work? You must have a pretty sheltered work
life there buddy.

Why not look at the link. Read any news service about the stock market.
Just about any company any day is telling you what the next big
development is going to be that they are working on. When I worked for a
semiconductor company I was always busting my butt to make some deadline
created in a press news release. It's no different where I work now
since I still work in manufacturing.

Believe me if Samsung is or has been working on a HD radio on a chip you
would see a press release about it on their web site. Everything else is
there like HD TV devices so why not an HD radio chip? Eduardo got you
convinced it is a big secret? Well think again.


Dang Telamon - You KNOW EVERYTHING ! -while-
the rest of us mere mortals seem to know jack-****.

Please Do Anoint Us With More of Your Infinite Wisdom ~ RHF


Being a clueless individual I'm sure it seems that way to you but be
assured that I do not know everything.

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Steve wrote:

On Feb 10, 12:20 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:


I work in radio,


Why should we believe this, given all the others lies you've told here?


And, he's certainly told some whoppers over the years, and not just here.


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Steve wrote:
On Feb 10, 12:20 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

I work in radio,


Why should we believe this, given all the others lies you've told here?


It depends on how you define "work" and "radio".
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"Telamon" wrote in message
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There were no disclaimers of the type you refer to.


If there was nothing to disclaim then it was just vague hot air. I read
the statements you refer to and what was said was not defined in any way
so disclaimers were not necessary.

Press releases that do make real promises about some product always
have disclaimers.


The seminar, with the heads of 5 of the top 10 broadcasting companies, was
webcast. The information on HD was more extensive than the report; all such
executives are cognizant of forward looking statements.


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