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One of the turning points on the way to the demise of traditional
broadcasting in the USA was the NAB's flat refusal to adopt Eureka 147
because legacy stations would lose their higher-power legacy
facilities and AM would have equal footing with FM.

Eureka did not even get to the NAB level; the band in the US is
reserved for military uses. It has failed miserably in canada, too.

Since then, Sirius and XM filled the void. Radio has been bleeding
red ever since.
No, satellite has been bleeding. Clear Channel had EBITDA of $1.8
billion last year while the satellite companies collectively lost $1.6
billion.

Radio billings were up 2% last year.
Everybody's bleeding 'cept for me and my monkey.

No, you are just lying and making up statistics that do not exist.
Billing back to the 60's is on the RAB website.
Y'all are bleeding audience, if not cash. How much of that CCU figure was
TV? Outdoor? Attractions?

0% attractions which they spun off several years ago.

Radio is the largest part.

Go to the RAB website, and see the billing figures for the last nearly 60
years.

AM radio is losing audience, as few new listeners come in. FM is at
approximately the same levels as 10, 15, 20 years ago.

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Looks like a false statement to me as I want to know yet do not meet the
conditions you mentioned above.

I suggest that you scan in the article and email it to me then. My email
has a spam trap in it but you should be able to figure it out.


Look at the post from "msg" which covers a small part of the RW article, but
covers all the issues you questioned. Enjoy eating crow... it does not taste
like chicken.

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Anyone who wanted to see the chips working could at CES. Articles in paid
or controlled subscription magazines and newsletters have covered the
developments, including Inside Radio and Radio World. There is lots of
documentation, but all of it requires either going to CES or having
subscriptions to the publications; Inside Radio is about $400 a year, for
example.



The only people putting money into this turd are dinocasters and American
carmakers. That should tell you something.

Funny. My BMW came with HD. BMW is German, in case you are so clueless as to
not know.

Yes. It is a $350 option.

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dxAce, don't be sorry, be GLAD.
cuhulin


I rather thought he was a member.

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David Eduardo wrote:
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Anyone who wanted to see the chips working could at CES. Articles in
paid
or controlled subscription magazines and newsletters have covered the
developments, including Inside Radio and Radio World. There is lots of
documentation, but all of it requires either going to CES or having
subscriptions to the publications; Inside Radio is about $400 a year,
for
example.



The only people putting money into this turd are dinocasters and
American
carmakers. That should tell you something.

Funny. My BMW came with HD. BMW is German, in case you are so clueless as
to
not know.

Yes. It is a $350 option.

Cheap, considering the heads up display was $1300 and the keyless locks
$1100. It's not a KIA.

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

Looks like a false statement to me as I want to know yet do not meet the
conditions you mentioned above.

I suggest that you scan in the article and email it to me then. My email
has a spam trap in it but you should be able to figure it out.


Look at the post from "msg" which covers a small part of the RW article, but
covers all the issues you questioned. Enjoy eating crow... it does not taste
like chicken.

Then maybe you should repost it as I don't know what you are
referencing. I don't eat crow so I don't know what it tastes like but
apparently you do.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

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David Eduardo wrote:
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David Eduardo wrote:
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One of the turning points on the way to the demise of
traditional broadcasting in the USA was the NAB's flat refusal
to adopt Eureka 147 because legacy stations would lose their
higher-power legacy facilities and AM would have equal footing
with FM.

Eureka did not even get to the NAB level; the band in the US is
reserved for military uses. It has failed miserably in canada,
too.

Since then, Sirius and XM filled the void. Radio has been
bleeding red ever since.
No, satellite has been bleeding. Clear Channel had EBITDA of
$1.8 billion last year while the satellite companies
collectively lost $1.6 billion.

Radio billings were up 2% last year.
Everybody's bleeding 'cept for me and my monkey.

No, you are just lying and making up statistics that do not
exist. Billing back to the 60's is on the RAB website.


Y'all are bleeding audience, if not cash. How much of that CCU
figure was TV? Outdoor? Attractions?

What's up Eduardo. Where are those quotes from Radio World?

I'm still waiting for those quotes Eduardo. Come on key clown get with
it. If you have time to post your life story you have time to back up
your claims but you won't do it because you can't.

Man, it's a real battle between RFI and Eduardo this week.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

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What's up Eduardo. Where are those quotes from Radio World?

I'm still waiting for those quotes Eduardo. Come on key clown get with
it. If you have time to post your life story you have time to back up
your claims but you won't do it because you can't.

Man, it's a real battle between RFI and Eduardo this week.

I told you that msg had already posted sufficiently data for you to have to
retract all your silly insults and denials.

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What's up Eduardo. Where are those quotes from Radio World?

I'm still waiting for those quotes Eduardo. Come on key clown get with
it. If you have time to post your life story you have time to back up
your claims but you won't do it because you can't.

Man, it's a real battle between RFI and Eduardo this week.

I told you that msg had already posted sufficiently data for you to have
to
retract all your silly insults and denials.

OK if you can't back it up just say so.

I can, when I get back to my desk. My itinerary is HOU, MIA, ORD, SJU, JFK,
LA. In the meantime, I posted msg's link and fair use posting so you can
print it and stuff it down your throat.

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Still waiting for those quotes Eduardo. If you got time to BS in other
threads you can post a quote backing up your claims.

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As for SiPort and CES, there are over 400 hits on Google citing
articles describing the product; here is a Radio World quote from
http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0121/t.10856.html:

Radio World Email Newsletters :: The Leslie Report

SiPort Unveils Single Chip IC for HD-R

by Leslie Stimson, 1.24.2008 Leslie Stimson is the News Editor and
Washington Bureau Chief for Radio World.


SiPort's HD Radio chipset was an interesting highlight of this
month's CES,
though it wasn't out on the floor. What I saw in the company's
suite in
the
Hilton was pretty interesting.

The semiconductor company displayed what its engineers say is a
single-chip
solution for the portable market to invited attendees.

In an exclusive interview, SiPort Vice President of Engineering
Aiman Kabakibo told me his company's chip consumes roughly 120 to
125 mW of power.

The chip, in development since 2005, can also support DAB and DAB+,
RDS and
the FM subcarrier-based MSN Direct signal in addition to HD Radio
and Terrestrial Digital Multimedia Broadcast.

"In order for us to achieve the lowest power [consumption] and
footprint
we had to start with a clean piece of paper and do this from the
ground up so we could optimize for power," he said.

The company displayed two prototype MP3 players with integrated FM
HD-R
receivers using its chip.

A company spokesman said SiPort expects to launch its chip with
major
customers this summer.

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0121/t.10856.html

Thanks for the link.

OK, now I'll explain what this is to you. It is a thing called
vaporware. Why do I call it vaporware? Let's take this one step at a
time.

According to Leslie Stimson's article:

"SiPort¹s HD Radio chipset was an interesting highlight of this month¹s
CES, though it wasn¹t out on the floor. What I saw in the company¹s
suite in the Hilton was pretty interesting."

It is not out on the floor because it is not a product yet and is still
under development. This is typical behavior when you are trying to
convince someone of a product that's not ready. It's called high
pressure sales talk. You can't do this out on a exhibition floor
effectively. You should understand this tactic.

Leslie Stimson's article:
"The semiconductor company displayed what its engineers say is a
single-chip solution for the portable market to invited attendees."

What to make of this statement? Pretty vague isn't it. My best guess is
they just showed IC packages that you can see old picture of on the net.
I would not take this statement to mean he saw something working because
it is just to easy to say so.

Leslie Stimson's article:
"A company spokesman said SiPort expects to launch its chip with major
customers this summer."

The rest is nearly meaningless fluff talk by SiPort except for this last
line, which means it does not exist yet. Will it ever exist? Maybe this
summer or maybe not.

This company does not have its own fabrication facilities and will
contract with a firm such as TSMC to make the parts. This will probably
cost millions of dollars and they are most likely looking for financial
backing. That's what is going on in the hotel suite.

Now, Eduardo tell me again how crow tastes.

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Telamon
Ventura, California