Dear, Clear Channel, Cox Radio, Citadel, Emmis and want to be's.
It's a matter of time before the FCC and our bumbling congress forces all
stations to turn off their analog frequencies and go 100% digital. Or maybe
radio is a dying industry. By 2020 radio as we know it will be irrelevant
and replaced by other technologies Like cassette, 8 track tape 45's and
dial-up have become. FM jukeboxes cannot compete with the technologies we
currently have never mind the future gadgets. Once cheap wireless internet
become available everywhere radio is done. Once cheap wireless internet
finds cars.. it's not good for radio. Radio should bet on content not
towers or frequencies. The time for HD was 10 years ago and where the F....K
were you? HD feels like Am stereo.. it sounded great. But with two
competing flawed technologies nobody cared enough to go out and buy
receivers. Static and Am stereo.. what was radio thinking? Hear the same
thing on HD that you can hear on an analog radio that I already own? mmmm
I'm not sure what are you guys are really thinking? I'll give you a hint..
It's not working.. And I'm not even an over paid "con"sultant..

Thanks to your leadership and greed. Total radio listening is trending down
slowly. Radio ad revenues are flat and declining. And because you've fired
everybody. radio employment has declined sharply. The current crop of
management "your flunkies" are struggling to make the Internet a profitable
and viable solution to the problems you've created. But they simply don't
have a clue. Oh well you might as well fire them too. I'll give you a
another clue.. Advertisers want accountability. Hype, and an intangible
radio ad schedule won't due, thanks to the internet and Googles point and
click.. I'm witting in Mr. Google for president!

Radio must go back to it's roots.. Serve it's communities and bring
personalities back to radio. Hello Mcfly...What's missing is creativity,
personality heart and sole. Thanks to your leadership radio isn't grooming
it's future stars, if anything it's doing the exact opposite and killings
it's future. The bottom line is important, but when the bottom line is more
important than the art you end up killing the very things that made radio
great!.. Hey it's ok... it's before your time. so you're forgiven..

Before you guys ran evil empires, and were children....Wait were you
children? I'll save that for another time. Could you even imagine an ipod,
computer or internet? I couldn't.. Yet, today children by the age of five,
"radio's future" are already tapping on the key board. And by the age of 8,
they're downloading music from the web to their ipod. Music lovers want to
hear what they want, when they want it.. And some day we'll be downloading
music from a wireless internet connection right to our automobiles.. I
personally can't wait..

To the great one, Clear Channel radio really, really, sucks.. It's so bad.
I'd dump Clear Channel to any sucker who can still pass a credit check And
for the CC Clones. Cox, Emmis, Citadel and want to be's. Radio really sucks.
Its time to sell radio while they still make suckers. It's over boys..and
time to pack the golden parachutes. Screw the employees...Oh I'm sorry.. I
forgot you already did. Hey have you thought of running a mortgage company?
I hear you can screw customers, kill an industry..and get huge bonuses..I
think all of you are qualified and pefect for the job.. It's great work if
you can find it..

"IT IS WHAT IT IS"

On Mar 8, 5:53*pm, "Scooter" wrote:
Dear, Clear Channel, Cox Radio, Citadel, Emmis and want to be's.
It's a matter of time before the FCC and our bumbling congress forces all
stations to turn off their analog frequencies and go 100% digital. Or maybe
radio is a dying industry. By 2020 radio as we know it will be irrelevant
and replaced by other technologies Like cassette, 8 track tape 45's and
dial-up have become. *FM jukeboxes cannot compete with the technologies we
currently have never mind the future gadgets. Once cheap wireless internet
become available everywhere radio is done. Once cheap wireless internet
finds cars.. it's not good for radio. *Radio should bet on content not
towers or frequencies. The time for HD was 10 years ago and where the F.....K
were you? HD feels like Am stereo.. it sounded great. *But with two
competing flawed technologies nobody cared enough to go out and buy
receivers. Static and Am stereo.. what was radio thinking? *Hear the same
thing on HD that you can hear on an analog radio that I already own? mmmm
I'm not sure what are you guys are really thinking? *I'll give you a hint..
It's not working.. And I'm not even an over paid "con"sultant..

Thanks to your leadership and greed. Total radio listening is trending down
slowly. Radio ad revenues are flat and declining. And because you've fired
everybody. radio employment has declined sharply. The current crop of
management "your flunkies" are struggling to make the Internet a profitable
and viable solution to the problems you've created. But they simply don't
have a clue. Oh well you might as well fire them too. I'll give you a
another clue.. Advertisers want accountability. Hype, and an intangible
radio ad schedule won't due, thanks to the internet and Googles point and
click.. I'm witting in Mr. Google for president!

Radio must go back to it's roots.. Serve it's communities and bring
personalities back to radio. Hello Mcfly...What's missing is creativity,
personality heart and sole. Thanks to your leadership radio isn't grooming
it's future stars, if anything it's doing the exact opposite and killings
it's future. The bottom line is important, but when the bottom line is more
important than the art you end up killing the very things that made radio
great!.. Hey it's ok... it's before your time. so you're forgiven..

Before you guys ran evil empires, and were children....Wait were you
children? I'll save that for another time. Could you even imagine an ipod,
computer or internet? I couldn't.. Yet, today children by the age of five,
"radio's future" are already tapping on the key board. And by the age of 8,
they're downloading music from the web to their ipod. Music lovers want to
hear what they want, when they want it.. And some day we'll be downloading
music from a wireless internet connection right to our automobiles.. I
personally can't wait..

To the great one, Clear Channel radio really, really, sucks.. It's so bad.
I'd dump Clear Channel to any sucker who can still pass a credit check And
for the CC Clones. Cox, Emmis, Citadel and want to be's. Radio really sucks.
Its time to sell radio while they still make suckers. It's over boys..and
time to pack the golden parachutes. Screw the employees...Oh I'm sorry.. I
forgot you already did. Hey have you thought of running a mortgage company?
I hear you can screw customers, kill an industry..and get huge bonuses..I
think all of you are qualified and pefect for the job.. It's great work if
you can find it..

- *"IT IS WHAT IT IS"

And that is IBOC !

IBOC : The End of Radio.. Maybe..

On Mar 8, 8:53�pm, "Scooter" wrote:
Dear, Clear Channel, Cox Radio, Citadel, Emmis and want to be's.
It's a matter of time before the FCC and our bumbling congress forces all
stations to turn off their analog frequencies and go 100% digital. Or maybe
radio is a dying industry. By 2020 radio as we know it will be irrelevant
and replaced by other technologies Like cassette, 8 track tape 45's and
dial-up have become. �FM jukeboxes cannot compete with the technologies we
currently have never mind the future gadgets. Once cheap wireless internet
become available everywhere radio is done. Once cheap wireless internet
finds cars.. it's not good for radio. �Radio should bet on content not
towers or frequencies. The time for HD was 10 years ago and where the F.....K
were you? HD feels like Am stereo.. it sounded great. �But with two
competing flawed technologies nobody cared enough to go out and buy
receivers. Static and Am stereo.. what was radio thinking? �Hear the same
thing on HD that you can hear on an analog radio that I already own? mmmm
I'm not sure what are you guys are really thinking? �I'll give you a hint..
It's not working.. And I'm not even an over paid "con"sultant..

Thanks to your leadership and greed. Total radio listening is trending down
slowly. Radio ad revenues are flat and declining. And because you've fired
everybody. radio employment has declined sharply. The current crop of
management "your flunkies" are struggling to make the Internet a profitable
and viable solution to the problems you've created. But they simply don't
have a clue. Oh well you might as well fire them too. I'll give you a
another clue.. Advertisers want accountability. Hype, and an intangible
radio ad schedule won't due, thanks to the internet and Googles point and
click.. I'm witting in Mr. Google for president!

Radio must go back to it's roots.. Serve it's communities and bring
personalities back to radio. Hello Mcfly...What's missing is creativity,
personality heart and sole. Thanks to your leadership radio isn't grooming
it's future stars, if anything it's doing the exact opposite and killings
it's future. The bottom line is important, but when the bottom line is more
important than the art you end up killing the very things that made radio
great!.. Hey it's ok... it's before your time. so you're forgiven..

Before you guys ran evil empires, and were children....Wait were you
children? I'll save that for another time. Could you even imagine an ipod,
computer or internet? I couldn't.. Yet, today children by the age of five,
"radio's future" are already tapping on the key board. And by the age of 8,
they're downloading music from the web to their ipod. Music lovers want to
hear what they want, when they want it.. And some day we'll be downloading
music from a wireless internet connection right to our automobiles.. I
personally can't wait..

To the great one, Clear Channel radio really, really, sucks.. It's so bad.
I'd dump Clear Channel to any sucker who can still pass a credit check And
for the CC Clones. Cox, Emmis, Citadel and want to be's. Radio really sucks.
Its time to sell radio while they still make suckers. It's over boys..and
time to pack the golden parachutes. Screw the employees...Oh I'm sorry.. I
forgot you already did. Hey have you thought of running a mortgage company?
I hear you can screw customers, kill an industry..and get huge bonuses..I
think all of you are qualified and pefect for the job.. It's great work if
you can find it..

�"IT IS WHAT IT IS"

"Digital Audio Broadcasting Systems and Their Impact on the
Terrestrial Radio Broadcast Service"

15. We will not establish a deadline for radio stations to convert to
digital broadcasting. Stations may decide if, and when, they will
provide digital service to the public. Several reasons support this
decision. First, unlike television licensees, radio stations are under
no statutory mandate to convert to a digital format. Second, a hard
deadline is unnecessary given that DAB uses an in-band technology that
does not require the allocation of additional spectrum. Thus, the
spectrum reclamation needs that exist for DTV do not exist here.
Moreover, there is no evidence in the record that marketplace forces
cannot propel the DAB conversion forward, and effective markets tend
to provide better solutions than regulatory schemes.

16. iBiquity argues that in the early stages of the transition, the
Commission should favor and protect existing analog signals. It states
that this could be accomplished by limiting the power level and
bandwidth occupancy of the digital carriers in the hybrid mode. At
some point in the future, when the Commission determines there is
sufficient market penetration of digital receivers, iBiquity asserts
that the public interest will be best served by reversing this
presumption to favor digital operations. At that time, broadcasters
will no longer need to protect analog operations by limiting the
digital signal and stations should have the option to implement all-
digital broadcasts. We decline to adopt iBiquity's presumption policy
because it is too early in the DAB conversion process for us to
consider such a mechanism. We find that such a policy, if adopted now,
may have unknown and unintended consequences for a new technology that
has yet to be accepted by the public or widely adopted by the
broadcast industry.

http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-IMPA...-15/i15922.htm

Keep dreaming - all digital will never happen.

On Mar 8, 8:32*pm, wrote:
On Mar 8, 5:53 pm, "Scooter" wrote:

* * Two Star Snip * *

- - "IT IS WHAT IT IS"

- IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T LISTEN TO IT.
-*THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.

Yes - Go Do You Thing and Let Us Enjoy Our Thing.

- NO NEED TO COMPLAIN AND COMPLAIN AND COMPLAIN.

By Posting Your ANTI 'old' Media Free Over-the-Air
AM/FM Radio Messages here day-in-and-day-out.

-*JUST DON'T LISTEN TO IT.

Dang What Could Be More Simplier except . . .
They consider us Dinosaurs for Listening to It.
And while We continue to Listen to 'old' Media
their New Media "Choice" lacks some Validity.

-*THERE ARE THOSE OF US WHO LISTEN TO OUR RADIOS
- SEVERAL HOURS EACH WEEK AND ENJOY IT.

I myself listen to the Free Over-the-Air AM/FM Radio
-aka- 'old' Media several Hours a Day most Days. )

-*THOSE WHO THINK RADIO WILL DIE HAVE LITTLE INSIGHT.

Insight is 'Seeing' -while- Radio is "Sound"

"They Have Not Heard the Past and Can Not Hear The Future."

- - - Sounds better to me. ;-}

GA - Relax and continue to Enjoy your Radios.

Maybe the Subject-Line needs to Read :
IBOC : The End of Radio.. Maybe.. and Just Maybe Not !

The Present RRS Newsgroup Reality is :
There is a 'group' of around a half-dozen Posters here who
Post many supposed Anti-IBOC-HD-Radio Messages here
are nothing more that little-minded-haters : Who Post are
in-fact a vailed Attack on 'old' Media in the form of Free
Over-the-Air AM/FM Radio. To them it really does not
matter if the Free Over-the-Air AM/FM Radio is Analog or
Digital [IBOC] it is simply 'old' Media which they Hate and
They Love New Media. So to that end, they Post Here at/on
Rec.Radio.Shortwave : To-Get-In-The-Face of Lover's of
'old' Media.

GA - Remember With Respct To :
Old Media {Terrestrial} Free Over-the-Air AM/FM Radio :
Significantly the Age Groups over the Age of 35 Years are
still primarily "Free" Over-the-Air AM/FM Radio Listeners
which translates to a continued Major Market Share for
Terrestrial Based AM/FM Radio Broadcasters for two to
three Decades {20~30 Years} to come Into-the-Future*.
* Yes - AM/FM Radio will have Many Listeners for Many Years to Come !
* Yes - AM/FM Radio is Business with a Future for Many Years to
Come !

Bridge Ratings Audience AM/FM Radio Erosion Study 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/hd-ra...7a3fdede5e67a0

the truth is out there - riding on a radio wave ~ RHF

As a kid growing up in the 70's I loved radio. I built many transmitters and
programmed many low power stations. I loved radio when personalities were
allowed to bring their personality to work and on air too. There was a time
when you could tell what city you were in by simply listening to a radio
station. To be honest I find most radio today stale. With the exception of a
few great stations it mostly all sounds the same. Corporate monolithic
programming for all. When I'm in the mood for music.. I love Pandora.com and
Slacker.com among other great web sites. When the radio is on it's mainly
background noise while driving. I never listen to radio when home, because I
have so many more great choices.. The spice of life is variety and
excitement.

" Radio is to music, as is KFC is to Chicken" thanks Lewis Black for that
line.

On Mar 9, 7:45*am, "Scooter" wrote:

- As a kid growing up in the 70's I loved radio.

Grew-up listening to the AM/MW Radio in the late 1950s
and early 1960s. Back then FM Radio : What's That ?
... and FM Stereo {Stere-Who?} had not started yet :-{

- I built many transmitters and programmed
- many low power stations.

While I have always been a simple Radio Listener
and nothing more.

- I loved radio when personalities were allowed to
- bring their personality to work and on air too.

Those were the days. "Characters Welcome"

- There was a time when you could tell what city
- you were in by simply listening to a radio station.

YES - There were a Hundred-and-One 'different' Voices
to hear all night long across the AM/MW Radio Band.

- To be honest I find most radio today stale.

Five Hundred Plus Stations with Rush and the Clones
during the day with Coast-to-Coast being heard on
as many all night long.

- With the exception of a few great stations
- it mostly all sounds the same.

Very True and a very few Great AM/MW Radio
Stations are left On-the-Air.

- Corporate monolithic programming for all.

Yes the vast majority are 'clones'.

- When I'm in the mood for music..

I simply turn-on one of the All Music and Commercial Free
Digital Audio Channels* on the Cable TV / Satellite TV.
* The are part of every basic TV Package and usually
give you 40 or more 'choices' in the Music Programming
that you can 'choose' to Listen To ) GREAT !
+ Plus No Computer is Required
+ Plus No Extra XM/SIRIUS Direct Satellite Radio
Subscription to Pay.
+ Plus Add an FM "Whole-House" Radio Transmitter
to the separate Set-Top-Box L&R Stereo Audio Outputs
and you have All Music and Commercial Free Digital Audio
throughout your Home.
+ Plus Only Costs $3~$5 extra a for another Set-Top-Box
to Add both Digital TV and Audio to another Room*
* Way Better and Cheaper than PC and DSS Audio.

CTV & DSTV : All Music and Commercial Free Digital Audio
Channels - Maybe the End of Music Radio . . .
CTV = Cable Television
DSTV = Direct Satellite Cable Television

someday, at least in the home ~ RHF

In article
,
RHF wrote:

On Mar 8, 8:32*pm, wrote:
On Mar 8, 5:53 pm, "Scooter" wrote:

* * Two Star Snip * *

- - "IT IS WHAT IT IS"

- IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T LISTEN TO IT.
-*THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.

SNIP

You had to go write a whole page of crap after writing this?

Why don't you get lost so normal people can enjoy the news group.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Mar 10, 7:09*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,

*RHF wrote:
On Mar 8, 8:32*pm, wrote:
On Mar 8, 5:53 pm, "Scooter" wrote:

* * Two Star Snip * *

- - "IT IS WHAT IT IS"


- - - IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T LISTEN TO IT.
- - - THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.

Telamon here is a re-write just for you :

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T READ TO IT.
=PS= THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.

- SNIP

IBOC : The End of Radio.. Maybe.. and Just Maybe Not !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...92cd8b9ed43f63

- You had to go write a whole page of crap after writing this?

- Why don't you get lost so normal people can enjoy the news group.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California
-

Telamon,

Everytime I "Get-Lost" : You Go Out of Your Way to Find-Me
and Bring Me Back into to this Game of Newsgroup Ping-Pong.

Hello Telamon - Where Was Your Added Value In This Thread ?

Teli - Please Learn To Be A Positive Contributor Here and Not
Just Another "Trill" In-Search-Of a "Troll" To Get Some Attention.

remember - newsgroups they are about 'content' ~ RHF
-ps- Setting the "Followup-To: alt.idiots" was a good one
sort-of-whimpy -but- a good one ;-}
http://www.kimrichter.com/Blog/uploa...ack-722897.gif

In article
,
RHF wrote:

On Mar 10, 7:09*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,

*RHF wrote:
On Mar 8, 8:32*pm, wrote:
On Mar 8, 5:53 pm, "Scooter" wrote:

* * Two Star Snip * *

- - "IT IS WHAT IT IS"


- - - IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T LISTEN TO IT.
- - - THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.

Telamon here is a re-write just for you :

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T READ TO IT.
=PS= THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.

SNIP

Just read this. If you are an idiot don't post here.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 01:53:12 GMT, "Scooter" wrote:

Dear, Clear Channel, Cox Radio, Citadel, Emmis and want to be's.
It's a matter of time before the FCC and our bumbling congress forces all
stations to turn off their analog frequencies and go 100% digital. Or maybe
radio is a dying industry. By 2020 radio as we know it will be irrelevant
and replaced by other technologies Like cassette, 8 track tape 45's and
dial-up have become. snip

I disagree. Radio is a timeless, elemental technology which is
probably going to be around as long as humans inhabit this earth. It
will probably decline in popularity as new technologies come around,
but I doubt it will ever completely go away. If large commercial
broadcasters are leaving (analog) radio, that can only be a good
thing, IMO: it will free the airwaves for smaller, independent
broadcasters to operate with little government interference.

BTW, out of the technologies you list, only one is truly obsolete: 8
track tapes. Dial-up is still used by a lot of people, and in rural
areas, it is often the ONLY way to get online. 45s are still a popular
release format among indy rock bands, and a lot of smaller labels are
still releasing vinyl. As for cassettes, they're still widely
available, so presumably, people are still buying them. As a matter of
fact, someone mentioned an article to me a few months ago that was
titled, "Cassettes: the format that refuses to die."
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