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I'm getting a KA2100 .
Has anyone installed an external SW antenna for it? I'm wondering how much signal it can take... and the impedance of the PAL connection (I have an F to PAL adapter, F connector coax and will get a balun if needed). |
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On Apr 30, 3:10*pm, "Sanjaya" wrote:
- I'm getting a KA2100 . Nice choice in a very good 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio. Same Radio as the Redsun RP2100 [Kaito KA2100 & CCRadio SW] - Has anyone installed an external SW antenna for it? Usually use a "PAL" to "F" Connector Adapter with RG-6 Quad-Shield {TV Type} Coax Cable. RadioShack Catalog # 278-265 = http://tinyurl.com/bcbfw -Or- a short So-239 Plug to PAL Connector 'adapter' Cable* http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...table/1052.jpg * Universal-Radio.Com Item # 1052 ABOUT - The PAL Connector plus PAL-to-F Adapters and a lot more . . . http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...1f34e5bbcaecb8 - I'm wondering how much signal it can take... I use the same Shortwave Radio Listening (SWL) Antennas with the Redsun RP2100 [Kaito KA2100 & CCRadio SW] as i do with the Grundig Satellit 800-M and Eton E1 Radios and the Icom IC-R75 and Kenwood R-5000 Receivers. The Redsun RP2100 [Kaito KA2100 & CCRadio SW] has a very useful, effective and fuctional RF Gain Control : Just Use It As Needed. - and the impedance of the PAL connection The Issue is not so much the Impedance of the type of Connector as the type of Coax Cable being used with that Connector. The 25~100 Feet of Coax Cable is going to have a greater impact on the Impedance that the Radio's Antenna Input 'sees'; then any 2" Connector. The "F" and PAL Connectors are mainly used with RG-59 and RG-6 Coax Cable so 'figure' 75 Ohms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RG-59 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RG-6 So 'consider' The External Shortwave Antenna Input to be Low Impedance "LO-Z" : 40 Ohms ~ 120 Ohms -vice- High Impedance "HI-Z" 300 Ohms ~ 800+ Ohms Designed for the Twin Terminals of most Radios. - (I have an F to PAL adapter, F connector coax - and will get a balun if needed). Since most of the time a Coax Cable will be being used with the PAL Connector pluged into the Radio : The -if- a Long Wire {Random Wire} Antenna is being used a 9:1 Matching Transformer should be used between the Antenna and Coax Cable. A Dipole or Loop Antenna 'connected' to the Coax Cable would not be required -but- a 4:1 Matching Transformer could also be used between these types of Balance Antennas and Coax Cable. - Sanjaya, hope this helps - iane ~ RHF {pomkia} |
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![]() "RHF" wrote... [snips] Since most of the time a Coax Cable will be being used with the PAL Connector pluged into the Radio : The -if- a Long Wire {Random Wire} Antenna is being used a 9:1 Matching Transformer should be used between the Antenna and Coax Cable hope this helps - iane ~ RHF Yes, very much. Thank you. |
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Sanjaya schrieb:
I'm getting a KA2100 . Has anyone installed an external SW antenna for it? I'm wondering how much signal it can take... and the impedance of the PAL connection (I have an F to PAL adapter, F connector coax and will get a balun if needed). There is a resistive matching network at the antenne input to give an impedance of between 50 and 75 ohms, so no extra un-un is needed. In stronger signal locations, however, I would strongly suggest using a preselector or tuned antenna, as the set is quite sensitive to 2nd order intermod. Stephan -- Home: http://stephan.win31.de/ Weniger Meer ist mehr Mehr. |
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Good post RHF - my Redsun RP2100 works beautifully with my DX! Pro. It
came from China with a PAL to coax adapter. The DX1 is 50 Ohms and delivers a huge signal to the RP2100 which handles it beautifully, but as RHF says, needs judicial use of the RF control. Good DX and happy listening. John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s Icom IC-7700, Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods Drake SW8. ERGO software Sony 7600D, GE SRIII, Redsun RP2100 BW XCR 30, Sangean 803A. Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro Mk II, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop. http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx On May 1, 1:14*am, RHF wrote: On Apr 30, 3:10*pm, "Sanjaya" wrote: - I'm getting a KA2100 . Nice choice in a very good 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio. Same Radio as the Redsun RP2100 [Kaito KA2100 & CCRadio SW] - Has anyone installed an external SW antenna for it? Usually use a "PAL" to "F" Connector Adapter with RG-6 Quad-Shield {TV Type} Coax Cable. RadioShack Catalog # 278-265 =http://tinyurl.com/bcbfw -Or- a short So-239 Plug to PAL Connector 'adapter' Cable*http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...table/1052.jpg * Universal-Radio.Com Item # 1052 ABOUT - The PAL Connector plus PAL-to-F Adapters and a lot more . . .http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...1f34e5bbcaecb8 - I'm wondering how much signal it can take... I use the same Shortwave Radio Listening (SWL) Antennas with the Redsun RP2100 [Kaito KA2100 & CCRadio SW] as i do with the Grundig Satellit 800-M and Eton E1 Radios and the Icom IC-R75 and Kenwood R-5000 Receivers. The Redsun RP2100 [Kaito KA2100 & CCRadio SW] has a very useful, effective and fuctional RF Gain Control : Just Use It As Needed. - and the impedance of the PAL connection The Issue is not so much the Impedance of the type of Connector as the type of Coax Cable being used with that Connector. *The 25~100 Feet of Coax Cable is going to have a greater impact on the Impedance that the Radio's Antenna Input 'sees'; then any 2" Connector. The "F" and PAL Connectors are mainly used with RG-59 and RG-6 Coax Cable so 'figure' 75 Ohmshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RG-59http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RG-6 So 'consider' The External Shortwave Antenna Input to be Low Impedance "LO-Z" : 40 Ohms ~ 120 Ohms -vice- High Impedance "HI-Z" 300 Ohms ~ 800+ Ohms Designed for the Twin Terminals of most Radios. - (I have an F to PAL adapter, F connector coax - and will get a balun if needed). Since most of the time a Coax Cable will be being used with the PAL Connector pluged into the Radio : The -if- a Long Wire {Random Wire} Antenna is being used a 9:1 Matching Transformer should be used between the Antenna and Coax Cable. A Dipole or Loop Antenna 'connected' to the Coax Cable would not be required -but- a 4:1 Matching Transformer could also be used between these types of Balance Antennas and Coax Cable. - Sanjaya, hope this helps - iane ~ RHF {pomkia} *. Are You Interested in building a better Shortwave Listening* (SWL) Antenna ? {SWL Group} =http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf GoTo =http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ *. RHF's Standard "Shortwave Radio Listener (SWL) Antennas Group" Reference Message Signature-Line =http://tinyurl.com/25zbrghttp://grou...1dac3b4a1798e0 *. * Remember 55.5% of Shortwave Radio Listening (SWL) is the Shortwave Antenna =http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf *. RHF's Radio Shack in Twain Harte, California -USA- SHACK INFO =http://tinyurl.com/2skmxm Shortwave Radio / Receiver and SWL Antenna Info *. -=2SKMXM=- -=25ZBRG=- SWR3:SWL:INFO *. |
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, RHF wrote: SNIP hope this helps - iane ~ RHF {pomkia} SNIP It didn't help. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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RHF wrote:
hope this helps - iane ~ RHF {pomkia} Thank you for your many shortwave related postings. I, for one, am getting sick of the attacks on you. It would appear not all the children went back to school last fall. What is the best PASSIVE loop design you've come across? mike |
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On Apr 30, 6:06*pm, Stephan Grossklass
wrote: Sanjaya schrieb: I'm getting a KA2100 . Has anyone installed an external SW antenna for it? I'm wondering how much signal it can take... and the impedance of the PAL connection (I have an F to PAL adapter, F connector coax and will get a balun if needed). - There is a resistive matching network at the antenne input - to give an impedance of between 50 and 75 ohms, so no - extra un-un is needed. In stronger signal locations, however, - I would strongly suggest using a preselector or tuned antenna, - as the set is quite sensitive to 2nd order intermod. - - Stephan - -- - Home:http://stephan.win31.de/ - Weniger Meer ist mehr Mehr. SGk - Is Right. Except for AC Mains "Noise Isolation" there is no need for an 1:1 UnUn at the back of the Radio : Especially -if- you are using Battery Power and a Balance Antenna like a Dipole {Windom} or a {Horizontal} Loop. However -if- you are using AC Mains to Power the Radio -and- a Long Wire {Random Wire} Antenna -then- using a 9:1 Matching Transformer 'between' the Coax Cable feed-in-line and the single Wire Antenna along with a Ground Rod is the recommended method of getting the Maximum Signal from your Antenna to the Radio with the least Noise. iane ~ RHF |
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In article ZGbSj.3523$XI1.631@edtnps91, m II wrote:
RHF wrote: hope this helps - iane ~ RHF {pomkia} Thank you for your many shortwave related postings. I, for one, am getting sick of the attacks on you. It would appear not all the children went back to school last fall. No thanks from me. Get lost news group retard. What is the best PASSIVE loop design you've come across? The only passive loop design he has come across is from me, which was forgotten nanoseconds after he read the post. Go knock back a few more beers Mikey. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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, RHF wrote: On Apr 30, 6:06*pm, Stephan Grossklass wrote: Sanjaya schrieb: I'm getting a KA2100 . Has anyone installed an external SW antenna for it? I'm wondering how much signal it can take... and the impedance of the PAL connection (I have an F to PAL adapter, F connector coax and will get a balun if needed). - There is a resistive matching network at the antenne input - to give an impedance of between 50 and 75 ohms, so no - extra un-un is needed. In stronger signal locations, however, - I would strongly suggest using a preselector or tuned antenna, - as the set is quite sensitive to 2nd order intermod. - - Stephan - -- - Home:http://stephan.win31.de/ - Weniger Meer ist mehr Mehr. SGk - Is Right. Except for AC Mains "Noise Isolation" there is no need for an 1:1 UnUn at the back of the Radio : Especially -if- you are using Battery Power and a Balance Antenna like a Dipole {Windom} or a {Horizontal} Loop. However -if- you are using AC Mains to Power the Radio -and- a Long Wire {Random Wire} Antenna -then- using a 9:1 Matching Transformer 'between' the Coax Cable feed-in-line and the single Wire Antenna along with a Ground Rod is the recommended method of getting the Maximum Signal from your Antenna to the Radio with the least Noise. The problem here is you are an idiot and so what you post is just crap. Read at your own risk. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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