Looks like somebody spent 10 times too much money...

http://mp3dj-broadcast.sysworks-com-ar.qarchive.org/

"dave" wrote in message
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Looks like somebody spent 10 times too much money...

http://mp3dj-broadcast.sysworks-com-ar.qarchive.org/

Not bad. Has lots of features for the price. But it doesn't have a
processor, it doesn't do multiple streams simultaneously, and several other
features that SAM2 Broadcaster does have, and that I need for the setup.

May all be a moot point soon, if the per-play rates go up as much as the
industry wants them to..

Brenda Ann wrote:


"dave" wrote in message
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Looks like somebody spent 10 times too much money...

http://mp3dj-broadcast.sysworks-com-ar.qarchive.org/

Not bad. Has lots of features for the price. But it doesn't have a
processor, it doesn't do multiple streams simultaneously, and several
other features that SAM2 Broadcaster does have, and that I need for the
setup.

May all be a moot point soon, if the per-play rates go up as much as the
industry wants them to..


Is this equal??
http://www.icecast.org/


comparison between icecast and shoutcast:

http://www.icecast.org/loadtest3.php


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"user" wrote in message
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Brenda Ann wrote:


"dave" wrote in message
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Looks like somebody spent 10 times too much money...

http://mp3dj-broadcast.sysworks-com-ar.qarchive.org/

Not bad. Has lots of features for the price. But it doesn't have a
processor, it doesn't do multiple streams simultaneously, and several
other features that SAM2 Broadcaster does have, and that I need for the
setup.

May all be a moot point soon, if the per-play rates go up as much as the
industry wants them to..


Is this equal??
http://www.icecast.org/


comparison between icecast and shoutcast:

http://www.icecast.org/loadtest3.php



Clients like Shoutcast and Icecast have at least two faults:

1) They count on your own internet connection as you are the server. These
days, very few connections have diddly for upload speeds. Live365 has their
own servers, so you only need to have one constant stream for all your
listeners.

2) They are not technically legal, as they pay no royalties. This is then
left up to the individual netcasters, most of whom pay no royalties at all.

Brenda Ann wrote:
"user" wrote in message
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Brenda Ann wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
news Looks like somebody spent 10 times too much money...

http://mp3dj-broadcast.sysworks-com-ar.qarchive.org/
Not bad. Has lots of features for the price. But it doesn't have a
processor, it doesn't do multiple streams simultaneously, and several
other features that SAM2 Broadcaster does have, and that I need for the
setup.

May all be a moot point soon, if the per-play rates go up as much as the
industry wants them to..

Is this equal??
http://www.icecast.org/


comparison between icecast and shoutcast:

http://www.icecast.org/loadtest3.php



Clients like Shoutcast and Icecast have at least two faults:

1) They count on your own internet connection as you are the server. These
days, very few connections have diddly for upload speeds. Live365 has their
own servers, so you only need to have one constant stream for all your
listeners.

2) They are not technically legal, as they pay no royalties. This is then
left up to the individual netcasters, most of whom pay no royalties at all.


They do a better job of selling music than the 'Dwardo radio. At least
they tell you the name of the artist while the song is playing.

On May 24, 6:58*am, dave wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
"user" wrote in message
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Brenda Ann wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
news Looks like somebody spent 10 times too much money...

http://mp3dj-broadcast.sysworks-com-ar.qarchive.org/
Not bad. Has lots of features for the price. But it doesn't have a
processor, it doesn't do multiple streams simultaneously, and several
other features that SAM2 Broadcaster does have, and that I need for the
setup.

May all be a moot point soon, if the per-play rates go up as much as the
industry wants them to..

Is this equal??
http://www.icecast.org/

comparison between icecast and shoutcast:

http://www.icecast.org/loadtest3.php

Clients like Shoutcast and Icecast have at least two faults:

1) They count on your own internet connection as you are the server. These
days, very few connections have diddly for upload speeds. Live365 has their
own servers, so you only need to have one constant stream for all your
listeners.

2) They are not technically legal, as they pay no royalties. This is then
left up to the individual netcasters, most of whom pay no royalties at all.

- They do a better job of selling music than the 'Dwardo radio.
-*At least they tell you the name of the artist while the song
- is playing.

IBOC HD-Radio supports a type of R[b]DS and the related
websites of the the HD-Radio Stations usually have the
needed Information; plus many now have the Buy-It-Now
type of Inter-Active User option.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Data_System

Brenda Ann wrote:

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Clients like Shoutcast and Icecast have at least two faults:

N.B. Icecast is currently the preferred, and open source, solution.

1) They count on your own internet connection as you are the server. These
days, very few connections have diddly for upload speeds. Live365 has their
own servers, so you only need to have one constant stream for all your
listeners.

So consider doing multicast; consider establishing a tunneled private
mcast backbone if necessary.

2) They are not technically legal, as they pay no royalties. This is then
left up to the individual netcasters, most of whom pay no royalties at all.

A rather limited viewpoint IMHO; large numbers of icecast streams are of
original source and live material and not 'commercial airplay' as your
statement implies.

Michael

"Brenda Ann" writes:

2) They are not technically legal, as they pay no royalties. This is then
left up to the individual netcasters, most of whom pay no royalties at all.

icecast is perfectly legal.

What the user does with it, however, may not be. If I chose to use icecast
to stream Creative Commons content, there is no law being broken at all.

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"Paul Dwerryhouse" wrote in message
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"Brenda Ann" writes:

2) They are not technically legal, as they pay no royalties. This is then
left up to the individual netcasters, most of whom pay no royalties at
all.

icecast is perfectly legal.

What the user does with it, however, may not be. If I chose to use icecast
to stream Creative Commons content, there is no law being broken at all.


Understood, but you obviously know what was meant by my post.

"Brenda Ann" writes:

Understood, but you obviously know what was meant by my post.

Your post was ambiguous at best. I wanted to make it clear - to anyone else
that was reading it - that there is nothing illegal about icecast. There's
enough misinformation going around about the legality of open-source software
as it is.

Cheers,

Paul

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