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ASCII wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
It's the addled moments right after the shaking stops that people
will
change stations, or even turn the radio on if it wasn't already,
whereas 'during' the event, they are likely trying to decide if they
should evacuate their structure or just hold onto something.

You said, "during an earthquake." And that is wrong.

An earthquake event is considered to consist of a series of shocks
and after the initial one there are usually several aftershocks with the
interludes consisting of anxious people tuning to KNX.
I can see why so many people think you're such a nit picking jerk.


Look up the definition of the word 'pedant'.

Or better yet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedant

Note the 'Usage of term' and the 'Obsessive-compulsive personality
disorder'
sections.


The more serious the threat to his credibility he perceives,
the more he goes into an OCD compensatory mode
until the vicious cycle eventually implodes.
Glad I'm not in LA,


That explains why you have no clue as to local media usage and ratings, and
probably why you don't understand earthquakes.


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"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Thu, 05 Jun
2008 02:00:36 -0400, dxAce wrote: Begin



ASCII wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
It's the addled moments right after the shaking stops that people
will
change stations, or even turn the radio on if it wasn't already,
whereas 'during' the event, they are likely trying to decide if they
should evacuate their structure or just hold onto something.

You said, "during an earthquake." And that is wrong.

An earthquake event is considered to consist of a series of shocks
and after the initial one there are usually several aftershocks with the
interludes consisting of anxious people tuning to KNX.
I can see why so many people think you're such a nit picking jerk.

Look up the definition of the word 'pedant'.

Or better yet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedant

Note the 'Usage of term' and the 'Obsessive-compulsive personality
disorder'
sections.


The more serious the threat to his credibility he perceives,
the more he goes into an OCD compensatory mode
until the vicious cycle eventually implodes.
Glad I'm not in LA,


That explains why you have no clue as to local media usage and ratings, and
probably why you don't understand earthquakes.


Actually it explains just why you're a pedant, oh faux one.

Now go pretend that you own the Empire State Building.


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None of the three program for or have any interest in listenership in San
Diego, signal or not.


They just pay Tom Reopelle to hang out here, is that it?
There's not much San Diego news that KNX doesn't cover.


Just checked 78% of the KNX San Diego audience (what is called cume) is
in-car. The average station's in-car usage is about 30%, not 78%. This would
indicate people who drive between the LA market (LA and Orange) and San
Diego, but live in SD County; they are listening to KNX for the LA traffic
(they do essentially no SD traffic) as they commute into and out of the LA
market to a home in SD County.

In any case, the listening to KNX in SD is so little it occasionally does
not even show up in any or most of the tables of the ratings. In the "sales
demo" of 25-54, KNX is second from last with a 33rd place showing for
Winter, 2008.


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None of them... KFI, KFWB or KNX program for or sell in san Diego.


Makes no difference to how they're being received here
and at what strength, or even the quality of programming,
unless you're implying the LA target audience doesn't deserve the best
any station can offer.
And if KNX doesn't care about San Diego,
what's Tom Reopelle doing here?


'Dwardo et al know nothing about radio, beyond lowest common denominator
fast bucks. Their approach has led to an unlistenable medium, where the
majority of the audience is dismissed because they don't respond well to
****ty commercials. Radio is theater of the mind.
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dxAce wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Thu, 05 Jun
2008 02:00:36 -0400, dxAce wrote: Begin


ASCII wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
It's the addled moments right after the shaking stops that people
will
change stations, or even turn the radio on if it wasn't already,
whereas 'during' the event, they are likely trying to decide if they
should evacuate their structure or just hold onto something.
You said, "during an earthquake." And that is wrong.
An earthquake event is considered to consist of a series of shocks
and after the initial one there are usually several aftershocks with the
interludes consisting of anxious people tuning to KNX.
I can see why so many people think you're such a nit picking jerk.
Look up the definition of the word 'pedant'.

I'd be trying to keep the 50" TV from falling over.


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dxAce wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Thu, 05 Jun
2008 02:00:36 -0400, dxAce wrote: Begin


ASCII wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
It's the addled moments right after the shaking stops that people
will
change stations, or even turn the radio on if it wasn't already,
whereas 'during' the event, they are likely trying to decide if they
should evacuate their structure or just hold onto something.
You said, "during an earthquake." And that is wrong.
An earthquake event is considered to consist of a series of shocks
and after the initial one there are usually several aftershocks with the
interludes consisting of anxious people tuning to KNX.
I can see why so many people think you're such a nit picking jerk.
Look up the definition of the word 'pedant'.

Or better yet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedant

Note the 'Usage of term' and the 'Obsessive-compulsive personality
disorder'
sections.

The more serious the threat to his credibility he perceives,
the more he goes into an OCD compensatory mode
until the vicious cycle eventually implodes.
Glad I'm not in LA,

That explains why you have no clue as to local media usage and ratings, and
probably why you don't understand earthquakes.


Actually it explains just why you're a pedant, oh faux one.

Now go pretend that you own the Empire State Building.




ROFLMAO!
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Jun 2008 05:14:16 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin


"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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None of the three program for or have any interest in listenership in
San
Diego, signal or not.


They just pay Tom Reopelle to hang out here, is that it?
There's not much San Diego news that KNX doesn't cover.


They only occasionally get any ratings at all there,


Ratings are only for hucksters to brandish about,
my S-meter makes no distinction on the signals I receive.


Most of SD county does not receive a listenable signal from KNX based on
what signal level is required to get ratings.

Besides, with KNX being an information resource, it's not the type
entertainment that drooling dolts who bother to do ratings surveys
would be interested in.


I see, then that is why good all-news WTOP in DC is #1 in the entire market.
KNX just has no appeal in SD, and the signal in all except the extreme
coastal areas is not at the level that listeners require to actually use a
station.

In any case, KNX or the local hip hop station are both sustained by ratings
and the conversion of ratings into revenue, generally in very close
proportion to the ratings delivery. There is no other metric in larger
markets to judge radio by besides ratings, and each station exists based on
generating ratings numbers.


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Jun 2008 05:17:21 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

That explains why you have no clue as to local media usage and ratings,
and
probably why you don't understand earthquakes.


First, I don't care about artificial 'ratings'


If you owned or worked at a radio station, they would be one of your primary
concerns.

and second I do understand and care about real phenomena.


If you think people tune in to the radio during an earthquake, I doubt even
that.


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An aftershock is a separate earthquake or temblor. It's a separate
incident.


Then why are Northridge or Loma Prieta each
referred to as an earthquake (singular) instead of clusters?


The Northridge quake occurred at 4:31 AM on January 14, 1994. Everything
else was an aftershock.

Nether Northridge nor Loma Prieta were clusters. A cluster is a long
sequence of many similarly sized events that runs at about the same level
for many days and even weeks, such as the one last year centered around the
Southeastern end of the Salton Sea. Northridge was a major quake followed be
decreasing and smaller aftershocks where the average daily activity is on a
decline. Clusters often remain at comparable intensity and frequency levels
for many, many days.


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"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Thu, 5
Jun 2008 05:14:16 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin


"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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None of the three program for or have any interest in listenership in
San
Diego, signal or not.


They just pay Tom Reopelle to hang out here, is that it?
There's not much San Diego news that KNX doesn't cover.


They only occasionally get any ratings at all there,


Ratings are only for hucksters to brandish about,
my S-meter makes no distinction on the signals I receive.


Most of SD county does not receive a listenable signal from KNX based on
what signal level is required to get ratings.


I get them just fine,
maybe you're thinking of the Anza Borrego desert communities

Besides, with KNX being an information resource, it's not the type
entertainment that drooling dolts who bother to do ratings surveys
would be interested in.


I see, then that is why good all-news WTOP in DC is #1 in the entire market.


Don't know nor care, can't receive them here.

KNX just has no appeal in SD,


that's an uninformed and blatant lie

and the signal in all except the extreme
coastal areas is not at the level that listeners require to actually use a
station.


I'm about seven miles inland in an inner-city neighborhood,
way east of I-5 and 'use' them whenever I want to, day or night.

In any case, KNX or the local hip hop station are both sustained by ratings
and the conversion of ratings into revenue, generally in very close
proportion to the ratings delivery. There is no other metric in larger
markets to judge radio by besides ratings, and each station exists based on
generating ratings numbers.


The only 'metric' of any significance to this newsgroup is the ability
to be received, and KNX well qualifies in San Diego.- Hide quoted text -

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