On Jun 5, 2:25*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Bart Bailey" wrote in message

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In posted on Thu, 5
Jun 2008 05:17:21 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

That explains why you have no clue as to local media usage and ratings,
and
probably why you don't understand earthquakes.

First, I don't care about artificial 'ratings'

If you owned or worked at a radio station, they would be one of your primary
concerns.

and second I do understand and care about real phenomena.

- If you think people tune in to the radio during
- an earthquake, I doubt even that.

d'Eduardo,

Usually people will 'turn-on' the Radio or TV with 3 Minutes
of an Earth-Quake to Find Out "How Bad It Was". That is
provided they were not already listening to the Radio or TV
and the Power did not go OFF.

While the Earth Quake is Happening : The First Concern
is Personal Safety.

The the First Minute After is Checking on 'others'.

Followed-by checking on the Radio or TV to see . . .
"How Bad It Was".

~ RHF

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Thu,
5 Jun 2008 14:24:32 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

Most of SD county does not receive a listenable signal from KNX based on
what signal level is required to get ratings.

I get them just fine,
maybe you're thinking of the Anza Borrego desert communities

No, I am thinking of the fact, verified by dozens of ratings periods in
many, many markets that shows that AMs get over 95% of their in home and at
work listening (70% lof the total listening on average is in home or at work
where ZIPs are tracable) is in areas where the signal is 10 mv/m or greater.
Since only a tiny amount of shoreline has that intensity from KNX, there is
pretty much nowhere that the signal is usable by the average, non-hobbyist,
listener. Which is part of why they have essentially no in home or at work
listening at all in SD County (the county is the metro for Arbitron).


Besides, with KNX being an information resource, it's not the type
entertainment that drooling dolts who bother to do ratings surveys
would be interested in.

I see, then that is why good all-news WTOP in DC is #1 in the entire
market.

Don't know nor care, can't receive them here.

But is disproves your theory, as do WBBM, WINS, WCBS, KCBS, etc., which rate
very high in each of their markets.

KNX just has no appeal in SD,

that's an uninformed and blatant lie

If it had appeal, it would have listeners. Heck, it does not even have SD
traffic unless said traffic affects LA drivers. And it has LA traffic every
10 minutes, which would be enormously un-interesting in SD.

and the signal in all except the extreme
coastal areas is not at the level that listeners require to actually use a
station.

I'm about seven miles inland in an inner-city neighborhood,
way east of I-5 and 'use' them whenever I want to, day or night.

The average listener, as proven, does not tolerate the signal levels you
find acceptable.

In any case, KNX or the local hip hop station are both sustained by
ratings
and the conversion of ratings into revenue, generally in very close
proportion to the ratings delivery. There is no other metric in larger
markets to judge radio by besides ratings, and each station exists based
on
generating ratings numbers.

The only 'metric' of any significance to this newsgroup is the ability
to be received, and KNX well qualifies in San Diego.

But it is not a San Diego station, does not try to appeal to San Diego, and
has a signal level there with 99.9% of listeners will not use.

That's reality.

On Jun 5, 2:24*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Bart Bailey" wrote in message

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In posted on Thu, 5
Jun 2008 05:14:16 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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None of the three program for or have any interest in listenership in
San
Diego, signal or not.

They just pay Tom Reopelle to hang out here, is that it?
There's not much San Diego news that KNX doesn't cover.

They only occasionally get any ratings at all there,

Ratings are only for hucksters to brandish about,
my S-meter makes no distinction on the signals I receive.

Most of SD county does not receive a listenable signal from KNX based on
what signal level is required to get ratings.

ratings Rating RATINGS

Hello Wake-Up d'Eduardo - Radio Listeners Don't F'ing Care
About Your Stinking Ratings.

Real 24/7 Radio Listeners Care About :

1 - Does the Radio Station 'sound good enough' to Listen To

2a - Does the Radio Station Programming Interest Me.

-or- 2b - Do I Enjoy Listening To Radio Station Content.

d'oh - you provide broadcaster answers
to radio listeners questions - d'oh again ~ RHF
-ps- you are not 'connecting' with the listener.

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Thu, 5
Jun 2008 16:52:36 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

Radio can only serve audiences that advertisers
want to reach.

How about the elusive 18 - 34 demographic?
Bet they'd love to reach into all those iPods with their custom play
lists and NO commercial messages ;-)

Over 95% of them also listen to radio.

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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posted on Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:23:57 -0700 (PDT), RHF wrote: Begin

d'oh - you provide broadcaster answers
to radio listeners questions - d'oh again ~ RHF
-ps- you are not 'connecting' with the listener.

Maybe he thinks he's gonna browbeat me into buying some airtime

You couldn't afford it.

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"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Thu,
5 Jun 2008 14:24:32 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

Most of SD county does not receive a listenable signal from KNX based on
what signal level is required to get ratings.

I get them just fine,
maybe you're thinking of the Anza Borrego desert communities

No, I am thinking of the fact, verified by dozens of ratings periods in
many, many markets that shows that AMs get over 95% of their in home and at
work listening (70% lof the total listening on average is in home or at work
where ZIPs are tracable) is in areas where the signal is 10 mv/m or greater.
Since only a tiny amount of shoreline has that intensity from KNX, there is
pretty much nowhere that the signal is usable by the average, non-hobbyist,
listener. Which is part of why they have essentially no in home or at work
listening at all in SD County (the county is the metro for Arbitron).

SNIP

You are so full of crap. You don't know what you are talking about at
all.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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"Brenda Ann" wrote:

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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The only 'metric' of any significance to this newsgroup is the ability
to be received, and KNX well qualifies in San Diego.

Don't bother to try arguing with Eduardo. He lives in the same ivory tower
as all sales types do, which has little or no connection to real life. Hell,
they don't even count the 'demo' with the most disposable income: Boomers.
We buy a lot of goods and services, but the broadcast industry doesn't feel
that we are worth their effort, and don't program to us, so we have to find
out about new things via the internet or word of mouth. Oh well.. guess the
advertising agencies and broadcasters don't want their cut of our disposable
income. For our household alone, that amounts to perhaps $20,000 a year.
Their loss. Unfortunately, it's also our loss, since we have to turn to mp3
players and CD's for programming we want to hear.

Eduardo is full of it. Don't believe him for a minute.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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The only 'metric' of any significance to this newsgroup is the ability
to be received, and KNX well qualifies in San Diego.

Don't bother to try arguing with Eduardo. He lives in the same ivory tower
as all sales types do, which has little or no connection to real life.

Actually, I am a programmer who was for many years a chief engineer as well.

SNIP

You sure could not tell that from the crap you post.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo wrote:

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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posted on Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:23:57 -0700 (PDT), RHF wrote: Begin

d'oh - you provide broadcaster answers
to radio listeners questions - d'oh again ~ RHF
-ps- you are not 'connecting' with the listener.

Maybe he thinks he's gonna browbeat me into buying some airtime

You couldn't afford it.

Maybe he could pretend, like you do, oh faux one.

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Thu,
5
Jun 2008 05:17:21 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

That explains why you have no clue as to local media usage and
ratings, and probably why you don't understand earthquakes.

First, I don't care about artificial 'ratings'

If you owned or worked at a radio station, they would be one of your
primary concerns.

and second I do understand and care about real phenomena.

If you think people tune in to the radio during an earthquake, I
doubt even that.

That is the most stupid thing you have posted yet.

Think about my statement again. People "tune in" _after_ and earthquake, not
during it. My point is that, unlike hurricanes or tornado situations or
floods, there is no advance warning for a quake, and not enough time during
a quake to tune in. Tune in occurs after the incident, not during it.

In any case, most of the population does not use AM radio, mucho of it does
not even know AM exists. The first source of info is TV for most of the two
youngest generations of Americans. Not AM radio.