On Jul 22, 5:54*am, Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
m II wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

Subject: *Wild Pigs

Of course none of this movement to totalitarianism has happened in the
last seven and a half years. The Patriot act is merely for your own good.

mike

* You keep forgetting how many times Bill Clinton tried to pass the
Patriot Act. And how many times the Republican Congress blocked him.

* Or that Projects Echelon and Carnivore were built during his
administration.

- The (not even) Patriot Act is a hodge-podge of fascist
- dreams that has been kicking around for decades.
-*Clinton is no benchmark of virtue; why do you worship him so?

DaviD - Clinton is no benchmark of virtue; why do you worship him so?

On Jul 22, 5:58*am, Dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
*Dave wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:41:29 -0400, dxAce wrote:

* Interesting that no one's talking about that pile of Saddam's
'fictional' yellowcake that ended up in Canada.
Yeah via D{e@o G@r(}a , that place that should not be mentioned.
A pile of ore is not a weapon. *It is not a gathering threat.

http://www.dg.navy.mil/web/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ego-garcia.htm

Really? What about the illness it caused in Iraq?

- The illness caused when we left the stockpile unguarded
- and the locals dumped the powder out and reused the
- barrels for drinking water? *Tragic.

Dave so we are responsible for the Problems
cause by Saddam Hussein's Government ?

tragically you are wrong on this one too ~ RHF

dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

Dave wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:16:36 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

"Nuclear" has been a dirty word since the movie 'The China
Syndrome,' a film often pointed to as a reference in debates where
nuclear plants were to be constructed. As a population, most of what
is 'understood' about nuclear energy production comes from that film.

Three Mile Island was the horror it was BECAUSE of the The China
Syndrome, when in fact, though a meltdown had occurred--some 8 feet of
reactor core was lost--the systems did precisely what they were
supposed to do, and shut the reactor down.

Odd, no one ever talks about THAT.

The problem is not the ignorant 'drill happy' folks.

The problem is the ignorant uneducated folks attempting to create a
panic based on short sight, and snapshot focus on a very narrow
picture of global events. And an overall suppression of understanding
of energy production by so-called professionals in education.


Nuclear plants need lots of water. Many installed nukes are running on
low power now due to water shortage.
There is no water shortage. Record snows last year, record rains this
spring, and the wettest summer in 50 years have rivers overunning their
banks. Lakes over their piers, and even tributaries with white water for
the first time in a century.

Nuclear plants are built on the shores of rivers, lakes and other
bodies of water. They're not running at half power due to low water.
http://planetsave.com/blog/2008/01/2...ry-up-nuclear-
power-plants-in-southeast/

http://drought.unl.edu/dm/monitor.html
You come help replace the burned out sump pump in my basement, and
I'll listen to your noise about drought.

Mine was rusted out (been here a long time before I got here) and when I
discovered that I replaced it that very day. My basement is dry, but it's just
good insurance if a pipe were to burst or the water heater would fail.



There is so much water here, mine has been running non stop for three
months.

Drought my ass.

D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

Dave wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:16:36 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

"Nuclear" has been a dirty word since the movie 'The China
Syndrome,' a film often pointed to as a reference in debates where
nuclear plants were to be constructed. As a population, most of what
is 'understood' about nuclear energy production comes from that film.

Three Mile Island was the horror it was BECAUSE of the The China
Syndrome, when in fact, though a meltdown had occurred--some 8 feet of
reactor core was lost--the systems did precisely what they were
supposed to do, and shut the reactor down.

Odd, no one ever talks about THAT.

The problem is not the ignorant 'drill happy' folks.

The problem is the ignorant uneducated folks attempting to create a
panic based on short sight, and snapshot focus on a very narrow
picture of global events. And an overall suppression of understanding
of energy production by so-called professionals in education.


Nuclear plants need lots of water. Many installed nukes are running on
low power now due to water shortage.
There is no water shortage. Record snows last year, record rains this
spring, and the wettest summer in 50 years have rivers overunning their
banks. Lakes over their piers, and even tributaries with white water for
the first time in a century.

Nuclear plants are built on the shores of rivers, lakes and other
bodies of water. They're not running at half power due to low water.
http://planetsave.com/blog/2008/01/2...ry-up-nuclear-
power-plants-in-southeast/

http://drought.unl.edu/dm/monitor.html
You come help replace the burned out sump pump in my basement, and
I'll listen to your noise about drought.

Mine was rusted out (been here a long time before I got here) and when I
discovered that I replaced it that very day. My basement is dry, but it's just
good insurance if a pipe were to burst or the water heater would fail.



There is so much water here, mine has been running non stop for three
months.

Drought my ass.

Yeah, been a lot of rain here. None yet today, but storms just NE of me now. Some
nice static.

Canada's proven oil reserves were estimated at 179 billion barrels
(28×109 m3) as of 2007, placing it second only to Saudi Arabia.
U.S. invasion plans are on the table. For the U.S.,taking Canada
would be "merely a matter of marching" - (Jefferson quote before the
War of 1812).

dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

Dave wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:16:36 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

"Nuclear" has been a dirty word since the movie 'The China
Syndrome,' a film often pointed to as a reference in debates where
nuclear plants were to be constructed. As a population, most of what
is 'understood' about nuclear energy production comes from that film.

Three Mile Island was the horror it was BECAUSE of the The China
Syndrome, when in fact, though a meltdown had occurred--some 8 feet of
reactor core was lost--the systems did precisely what they were
supposed to do, and shut the reactor down.

Odd, no one ever talks about THAT.

The problem is not the ignorant 'drill happy' folks.

The problem is the ignorant uneducated folks attempting to create a
panic based on short sight, and snapshot focus on a very narrow
picture of global events. And an overall suppression of understanding
of energy production by so-called professionals in education.


Nuclear plants need lots of water. Many installed nukes are running on
low power now due to water shortage.
There is no water shortage. Record snows last year, record rains this
spring, and the wettest summer in 50 years have rivers overunning their
banks. Lakes over their piers, and even tributaries with white water for
the first time in a century.

Nuclear plants are built on the shores of rivers, lakes and other
bodies of water. They're not running at half power due to low water.
http://planetsave.com/blog/2008/01/2...ry-up-nuclear-
power-plants-in-southeast/

http://drought.unl.edu/dm/monitor.html
You come help replace the burned out sump pump in my basement, and
I'll listen to your noise about drought.
Mine was rusted out (been here a long time before I got here) and when I
discovered that I replaced it that very day. My basement is dry, but it's just
good insurance if a pipe were to burst or the water heater would fail.


There is so much water here, mine has been running non stop for three
months.

Drought my ass.

Yeah, been a lot of rain here. None yet today, but storms just NE of me now. Some
nice static.




None here..but then, that MTA is really effective at static avoidance.

RHF wrote:
On Jul 22, 5:59 am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jul 21, 3:45 pm, Dave wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:45:47 -0700, RHF wrote:
Dave Two Words : "Dirty Bomb" ~ RHF
Al Qaeda pursued a "Dirty Bomb"
- The subject was Iraq, not Al Qaeda.
Simply Matching "The Source" -with- "The Doer"
US Removes Uranium from Iraq -and-
Sets Back the Islam-O-Facist "Dirty Bomb" Project
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...022144f484dbcf
- A "dirty bomb" would contaminate a few acres,
- at best (worst).
Dave you are simply dismissing reality.
A Dirty Bomb like most Bombs can be small enough
to 'contaminate' an Office - the little terror
-or- BIG enough to Cover a City's Down Town Area.
Making that City's Down Town Area "Contaminate"
and a No-Man's Land for Years or Decades.
THE BIG TERROR !
A Small Plane {Crop-Duster} at 5K Feet with the right
Chemical Dispersal Equipment could Spiral Out from
City Hall and Around and Around Down Town Raining
Hell from Above. SPREADING THE TERROR !
For that matter the same Small Plane could cruise
along at 100 Feet over Bumper-to-Bumper Crowded
Freeway at 5 PM on a Hot Summer Day and Rain
Down Radioactive Contamination on both directions
of Commuter Traffic for 5 Miles or more.
TRANSMUTING THE TERROR ! from a single City's
Down Town Areas to an Metro's Whole Population via
Single-Point Urban & Suburban Migratory Dispersion.
- You have thrown your country away because you
- are afraid of a media created Boogeyman.
Dave - You Are The Boogeyman of Disbelief Playing
the Part of an Ostrich. The Terrorists Are Here . . .
http://www.realanimalfacts.com/wp-co...02/ostrich_hea...

- - (OT) : Islam-O-Facist "Dirty Bomb" Terrorist Projects
Continue . . .

- Total bull****. Grow a pair.

Dave - Using Profanity is Not a Valid Argument
and at best shows 'intellectual' dishonesty'.

endowed by god with 'a pair' ~ RHF

Point # 1 - I Win )
US Removes Uranium from Iraq -and-
Sets Back the Islam-O-Facist "Dirty Bomb" Project
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...022144f484dbcf

Point # 2 - I Win )
(OT) : Islam-O-Facist "Dirty Bomb" Terrorist Projects Continue . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...449575192b708a

Dave - Now There's A Winning Pair ;-) ~ RHF
.

Dave is right - you need to grow a pair! Dirty bombs are not considered
to be weapons of mass destruction - your own USED made that conclusion.
To get that much material, let alone to to expose people to it for any
length of time to do any real damage would be unrealistic. You want to
get some serious casualties? Use a persistent nerve agent instead. They
aren't that difficult to synthesize and at a LD of around a few
milligrams they are very effective.

JB

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:41:29 -0400, dxAce wrote:


Interesting that no one's talking about that pile of Saddam's
'fictional' yellowcake that ended up in Canada.
Yeah via D{e@o G@r(}a , that place that should not be mentioned.
A pile of ore is not a weapon. It is not a gathering threat.

http://www.dg.navy.mil/web/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ego-garcia.htm

Really? What about the illness it caused in Iraq?


No metal,

Now, now, it is the DU weapons used by the US military in Iraq which
caused the illnesses.

JB

Telamon wrote:
In article DObhk.877$nu6.761@edtnps83, m II wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:41:29 -0400, dxAce wrote:

Interesting that no one's talking about that pile of Saddam's
'fictional' yellowcake that ended up in Canada.
Yeah via D{e@o G@r(}a , that place that should not be mentioned.
A pile of ore is not a weapon. It is not a gathering threat.

http://www.dg.navy.mil/web/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ego-garcia.htm
Really? What about the illness it caused in Iraq?


Ten thousand Gulf war vets dead. DU played a big role.

SNIP

The yellow cake is far worse so you had better get that HAZMAT suit on.


Yawn. Aren't you tired of fear-mongering yet? Yellow cake may be worse
but it is far more difficult to get let alone process. Go Team Fear!

JB

m II wrote:
Telamon wrote:

Think of this at Dinner time, ok?
SNIP

I'm not going to look at it because coming from you I'm sure it's
something disgusting.

Yes it is. The US army did it. With your money.

http://www.uruknet.info/uruknet-images/290706du2.jpg

Don't you want to make sure you're getting your money's worth?


mike





Mike!

It's too difficult to reason with these morons. After all, if they treat
their own countrymen in so expendable a fashion they won't hesitate to
treat anyone else in the same manner. Such is the way of those who are
morally nihilistic...

JB