This issue has a good antenna article on loop antennas but for some
strange reason the author seems to think it is only a good AMBCB
antenna. This antenna type is excellent for SW also. Depending on what
frequencies you want to the antenna to operate on and the circumference
of the loop you will not need a matching transformer. Closed loop
antennas are generally superior in urban environments with local noise
sources for a number of reasons.

There is also a good article on propagation by Tomas Hood.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:26:26 -0700

Telamon wrote:

This issue has a good antenna article on loop antennas but for some
strange reason the author seems to think it is only a good AMBCB
antenna. This antenna type is excellent for SW also. Depending on what
frequencies you want to the antenna to operate on and the circumference
of the loop you will not need a matching transformer. Closed loop
antennas are generally superior in urban environments with local noise
sources for a number of reasons.

There is also a good article on propagation by Tomas Hood.


Have you heard anything about those hula-hoop sized loops? If I can find a suitable tuning capacitor I might try building one. The directional abilities look useful.



mike


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On Aug 3, 3:26*pm, Telamon
wrote:
This issue has a good antenna article on loop antennas but for some
strange reason the author seems to think it is only a good AMBCB
antenna. This antenna type is excellent for SW also. Depending on what
frequencies you want to the antenna to operate on and the circumference
of the loop you will not need a matching transformer. Closed loop
antennas are generally superior in urban environments with local noise
sources for a number of reasons.

There is also a good article on propagation by Tomas Hood.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Crap. Thanks Telamon- hopefully they still have it at Borders&Books. I
bet they already have Sept. out and I'm out of luck. I looked at three
different place last week and they were out. :-I

On Aug 4, 2:36*am, m II wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:26:26 -0700

Telamon wrote:
This issue has a good antenna article on loop antennas but for some
strange reason the author seems to think it is only a good AMBCB
antenna. This antenna type is excellent for SW also. Depending on what
frequencies you want to the antenna to operate on and the circumference
of the loop you will not need a matching transformer. Closed loop
antennas are generally superior in urban environments with local noise
sources for a number of reasons.

There is also a good article on propagation by Tomas Hood.

Have you heard anything about those hula-hoop sized loops? If I can find a suitable tuning capacitor I might try building one. The directional abilities look useful.

mike

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Build you one Mike. You can't go wrong. Loops IMO are freeking killer-
I only have loops for the BCB. For some some reason I just can't
picture (even though I know it works) using a loop for shortwave. I
have three of them and use two of them all the time- without them
there is NO WAY I could have logged and received the verification
reports I have. What type of capacitor are you looking for? I have one
I am not using.....it's a good one- I forget the specs but I could
find out.

Build you one Mike. You can't go wrong. Loops IMO are freeking killer-
I only have loops for the BCB. For some some reason I just can't
picture (even though I know it works) using a loop for shortwave. I
have three of them and use two of them all the time- without them
there is NO WAY I could have logged and received the verification
reports I have. What type of capacitor are you looking for? I have one
I am not using.....it's a good one- I forget the specs but I could
find out.

I have been flirting with purchasing a Wellebrook SW loop for a year
or two now... does anyone on list have one? Specifically paired with
a Satellit 800 or E1?

On Aug 3, 11:36*pm, m II wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:26:26 -0700

Telamon wrote:
This issue has a good antenna article on loop antennas but for some
strange reason the author seems to think it is only a good AMBCB
antenna. This antenna type is excellent for SW also. Depending on what
frequencies you want to the antenna to operate on and the circumference
of the loop you will not need a matching transformer. Closed loop
antennas are generally superior in urban environments with local noise
sources for a number of reasons.

There is also a good article on propagation by Tomas Hood.

- Have you heard anything about those hula-hoop sized loops?
- If I can find a suitable tuning capacitor I might try building one.
- The directional abilities look useful.
-
- mike

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In article Urxlk.4105$nu6.2885@edtnps83, m II wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:26:26 -0700

Telamon wrote:

This issue has a good antenna article on loop antennas but for some
strange reason the author seems to think it is only a good AMBCB
antenna. This antenna type is excellent for SW also. Depending on what
frequencies you want to the antenna to operate on and the circumference
of the loop you will not need a matching transformer. Closed loop
antennas are generally superior in urban environments with local noise
sources for a number of reasons.

There is also a good article on propagation by Tomas Hood.


Have you heard anything about those hula-hoop sized loops? If I can find a
suitable tuning capacitor I might try building one. The directional abilities
look useful.

A hula-hoop size loop will be large enough if you can tune it to
resonance with a capacitor. I have not used a small tuned loop for SW
but the experiences of others indicate that unlike AMBCB the SW signals
are more scattered in the ionosphere and so are more difficult to null.
You should have good success on the lower SW bands but should expect
poorer nulling the higher in frequency you go.

I do use larger single turn loops for AMBCB and SW. I have noticed that
they appear less directionally selective at higher frequencies.

The article in Popular Communications show several types of single turn
wire loop antennas if you are interested.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

In article
,
BCBlazysusan wrote:

On Aug 3, 3:26*pm, Telamon
wrote:
This issue has a good antenna article on loop antennas but for some
strange reason the author seems to think it is only a good AMBCB
antenna. This antenna type is excellent for SW also. Depending on what
frequencies you want to the antenna to operate on and the circumference
of the loop you will not need a matching transformer. Closed loop
antennas are generally superior in urban environments with local noise
sources for a number of reasons.

There is also a good article on propagation by Tomas Hood.


Crap. Thanks Telamon- hopefully they still have it at Borders&Books. I
bet they already have Sept. out and I'm out of luck. I looked at three
different place last week and they were out. :-I

I acquired the August copies of MT and Popular Communications at Barnes
and Noble.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Aug 4, 1:40*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article Urxlk.4105$nu6.2885@edtnps83, m II wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:26:26 -0700

Telamon wrote:

This issue has a good antenna article on loop antennas but for some
strange reason the author seems to think it is only a good AMBCB
antenna. This antenna type is excellent for SW also. Depending on what
frequencies you want to the antenna to operate on and the circumference
of the loop you will not need a matching transformer. Closed loop
antennas are generally superior in urban environments with local noise
sources for a number of reasons.

There is also a good article on propagation by Tomas Hood.

Have you heard anything about those hula-hoop sized loops? If I can find a
suitable tuning capacitor I might try building one. The directional abilities
look useful.

A hula-hoop size loop will be large enough if you can tune it to
resonance with a capacitor. I have not used a small tuned loop for SW
but the experiences of others indicate that unlike AMBCB the SW signals
are more scattered in the ionosphere and so are more difficult to null.
You should have good success on the lower SW bands but should expect
poorer nulling the higher in frequency you go.

I do use larger single turn loops for AMBCB and SW. I have noticed that
they appear less directionally selective at higher frequencies.

The article in Popular Communications show several types of single turn
wire loop antennas if you are interested.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The Shortwave (SW) Loop Antennas are better for
Peaking the RF Signals for a Shortwave (SW) Radio
Band -and- Nulling-Out your 'local' Noise Source(s).

Edek Electronics "Torus-Tuner" Loop Antennas
{Basically a Hula Hoop with Wires inside It.}
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/2857

Building as Torus Tuner {Equivalent} AM/MW Loop Antenna
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...d433c33551bd61

The Edek "Torus-Tuner" 16" Shortwave Loop Antenna is a very
good Antenna for anyone living in a Condo or Apartment -or-
who Travels often and likes to Listen to the Shortwave Radio.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...6382103d69d97c
http://www.radiointel.com/review-edek.htm

FWIW - I have one of the Edek "Torus-Tuner" 16" Shortwave
Loop Antenna sitting on-top-of a Grundig Satellit 800-M Radio
next to this Computer right now; and it does Help to Bring-in
the Shortwave Radio Stations and cut down on the local RFI /
EMF Noise inside the House.

stay-tuned & in-the-loop - iane ~ RHF {pomkia}

BCBlazysusan wrote:

Build you one Mike. You can't go wrong. Loops IMO are freeking killer-
I only have loops for the BCB. For some some reason I just can't
picture (even though I know it works) using a loop for shortwave. I
have three of them and use two of them all the time- without them
there is NO WAY I could have logged and received the verification
reports I have. What type of capacitor are you looking for? I have one
I am not using.....it's a good one- I forget the specs but I could
find out.


Thank you for your kind offer but I have a large two or three group
style one buried in the garage somewhere. I think it's under the surplus
signal generators or the box of one milliamp meters or the breadboarding
stations or the ....



mike

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