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Proposed new FBI rules draw civil liberties worries
Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:17pm EDT Email | Print | Share | Reprints | Single Page | Recommend (22) [-] Text [+] By James Vicini WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Justice Department unveiled proposed new rules on Friday for FBI investigations, changes a civil liberties group criticized for giving agents powers to investigate Americans without proper suspicion. In its first major change in years, the Justice Department proposed a consolidated set of guidelines for domestic FBI operations, seeking to apply the same rules for criminal and terrorism cases, and for collecting foreign intelligence. The guidelines were first adopted in the 1970s following disclosures that the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover had run a widespread domestic surveillance program that spied on civil rights activists and political opponents. http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...47176820080912 |
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On Sep 14, 8:55*am, Dave wrote:
Proposed new FBI rules draw civil liberties worries Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:17pm EDT Email | Print | Share | Reprints | Single Page | Recommend (22) [-] Text [+] By James Vicini WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Justice Department unveiled proposed new rules on Friday for FBI investigations, changes a civil liberties group criticized for giving agents powers to investigate Americans without proper suspicion. In its first major change in years, the Justice Department proposed a consolidated set of guidelines for domestic FBI operations, seeking to apply the same rules for criminal and terrorism cases, and for collecting foreign intelligence. The guidelines were first adopted in the 1970s following disclosures that the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover had run a widespread domestic surveillance program that spied on civil rights activists and political opponents. http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...47176820080912 Very revealing how you so convientiently omitted the ACLU from your post: "The American Civil Liberties Union expressed concern the rewritten rules had been drafted in a way to allow the FBI to begin surveillance without factual evidence to back it up." ACLU - Established in 1920 by Roger Baldwin (who candidly stated that "Communism [was] the goal" toward which his efforts were directed), Much more http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6145 |
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On Sep 14, 10:20*am, Dave wrote:
wrote: Very revealing how you so [conveniently] omitted the ACLU from your post: Only to you. *I am concerned, but I am not now, nor have I ever been a Communist (not that there's anything wrong with it...) "About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.'" "(...) the place [CIA] became more liberal in the 1990s as the agency pushed out hundreds of longtime employees and the Clintonites put their people in place." http://www.enterstageright.com/archi...07scarboroughi... author of "Sabotage - America's Enemies Within The CIA" http://www.amazon.com/Sabotage-Ameri.../dp/1596985100 How current and former CIA officers fueled conspiracy theories that President Bush orchestrated the 9/11 attacks on America How a CIA leak to the New York Times deprived the U.S. of critical information in the War on Terror How press leaks by the CIA have damaged relations with our foreign allies in the WAr on Terror How a CIA analyst worked with Democrats to sabotage the nomination of John Bolton to tha UN HOW CLINTON'S DOWNSIZING OF THE CIA LED TO THE CLOSING OF STATIONS IN SCORES OF JIHADIST BREEDING GROUNDS - INCLUDING HAMBURG, GERMANY, WHERE THE 9/11 PLOT WAS HATCHED. "We are really still paying for what happened to the CIA and the whole intelligence community in the 90s. For example, the CIA structure in Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, was down to a handful of officers by the end of the 90s. The CIA closed scores of bases during the 90s, all over the world, including in Hamburg, Germany -- the place where the 9/11 plot really began, and where radicalized Muslims were really cropping up in Europe." "Secondly, in the 90s we did not invest in technology to eavesdrop on these people, and in Sabotage I explain that the National Security Agency has been playing catch-up to try to come up with new technologies to match e-mail and the Internet. These two things burgeoned in the 90s, and they paralleled the rise of radical Islam. But NASA’s budget was going down, the CIA’s budget was going down. We just didn’t keep up." "About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.' And it is because inside the CIA, the bureaucracy at Langley had a priority of leaking and stopping Bush administration programs, rather than following the policy directives of the White House. And we’ve seen that in countless leaks about terrorist surveillance programs, the prisons where they were trying to interrogate top-ranking al Qaeda prisoners, in station reports from Baghdad. When Porter Goss took over the CIA in 2004, really trying to reform it, what happened? He died by a million leaks. It was a cut every day, until Porter Goss by 2006 actually was forced out. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21538 "As violence in Iraq mounted, CIA officers rarely left their protected station in the heavily secured Green Zone of Baghdad...It was no surprise that the CIA failed to penetrate the insurgent organizations in Iraq. Officers were heard complaining about their assignment to Iraq and about ‘Bush's war.' Army general George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, complained that CIA analytical reports were superficial, and that topics raised in the reports were not pursued." http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...arborough.html |
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On Sep 14, 2:02*pm, wrote:
On Sep 14, 10:20*am, Dave wrote: wrote: Very revealing how you so [conveniently] omitted the ACLU from your post: Only to you. *I am concerned, but I am not now, nor have I ever been a Communist (not that there's anything wrong with it...) "About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.'" "(...) the place [CIA] became more liberal in the 1990s as the agency pushed out hundreds of longtime employees and the Clintonites put their people in place." http://www.enterstageright.com/archi...07scarboroughi... author of *"Sabotage - America's Enemies Within The CIA" http://www.amazon.com/Sabotage-Ameri.../dp/1596985100 How current and former CIA officers fueled conspiracy theories that President Bush orchestrated the 9/11 attacks on America How a CIA leak to the New York Times deprived the U.S. of critical information in the War on Terror How press leaks by the CIA have damaged relations with our foreign allies in the WAr on Terror How a CIA analyst worked with Democrats to sabotage the nomination of John Bolton to tha UN HOW CLINTON'S DOWNSIZING OF THE CIA LED TO THE CLOSING OF STATIONS IN SCORES OF JIHADIST BREEDING GROUNDS - INCLUDING HAMBURG, GERMANY, WHERE THE 9/11 PLOT WAS HATCHED. "We are really still paying for what happened to the CIA and the whole intelligence community in the 90s. For example, the CIA structure in Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, was down to a handful of officers by the end of the 90s. The CIA closed scores of bases during the 90s, all over the world, including in Hamburg, Germany -- the place where the 9/11 plot really began, and where radicalized Muslims were really cropping up in Europe." "Secondly, in the 90s we did not invest in technology to eavesdrop on these people, and in Sabotage I explain that the National Security Agency has been playing catch-up to try to come up with new technologies to match e-mail and the Internet. These two things burgeoned in the 90s, and they paralleled the rise of radical Islam. But NASA’s budget was going down, the CIA’s budget was going down. We just didn’t keep up." "About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.' And it is because inside the CIA, the bureaucracy at Langley had a priority of leaking and stopping Bush administration programs, rather than following the policy directives of the White House. And we’ve seen that in countless leaks about terrorist surveillance programs, the prisons where they were trying to interrogate top-ranking al Qaeda prisoners, in station reports from Baghdad. When Porter Goss took over the CIA in 2004, really trying to reform it, what happened? He died by a million leaks. It was a cut every day, until Porter Goss by 2006 actually was forced out. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21538 "As violence in Iraq mounted, CIA officers rarely left their protected station in the heavily secured Green Zone of Baghdad...It was no surprise that the CIA failed to penetrate the insurgent organizations in Iraq. Officers were heard complaining about their assignment to Iraq and about ‘Bush's war.' Army general George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, complained that CIA analytical reports were superficial, and that topics raised in the reports were not pursued." http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...e_rowan_scarbo... First of all, the term: "Liberal Fascist" cannot be by correct any definition. But, I look at who posted it and just shake my head. You really are quite the republican puppet aren't you? |
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On Sep 14, 10:20 am, Dave wrote: wrote: Very revealing how you so [conveniently] omitted the ACLU from your post: Only to you. I am concerned, but I am not now, nor have I ever been a Communist (not that there's anything wrong with it...) "About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.'" "(...) the place [CIA] became more liberal in the 1990s as the agency pushed out hundreds of longtime employees and the Clintonites put their people in place." Bush replaced career civil servants with unqualified political appointees in every federal agency, including CIA. We will be very lucky to undo the damage in time. Colonel Kwiatkowski is a friend of Lew Rockwell, who works for the Von Mises Institute, who you frequently cite. Kwiatkowski, 43, a now-retired Air Force officer who served in the Pentagon's Near East and South Asia (NESA) unit in the year before the invasion of Iraq, observed how the Pentagon's Iraq war-planning unit manufactured scare stories about Iraq's weapons and ties to terrorists. "It wasn't intelligence‚ -- it was propaganda," she says. "They'd take a little bit of intelligence, cherry-pick it, make it sound much more exciting, usually by taking it out of context, often by juxtaposition of two pieces of information that don't belong together." It was by turning such bogus intelligence into talking points for U.S. officials‚ -- including ominous lines in speeches by President Bush and Vice President Cheney, along with Secretary of State Colin Powell's testimony at the U.N. Security Council last February‚ -- that the administration pushed American public opinion into supporting an unnecessary war. Until now, the story of how the Bush administration produced its wildly exaggerated estimates of the threat posed by Iraq has never been revealed in full. But, for the first time, a detailed investigation by Mother Jones, based on dozens of interviews‚ -- some on the record, some with officials who insisted on anonymity‚ -- exposes the workings of a secret Pentagon intelligence unit and of the Defense Department's war-planning task force, the Office of Special Plans. It's the story of a close-knit team of ideologues who spent a decade or more hammering out plans for an attack on Iraq and who used the events of September 11, 2001, to set it into motion. http://www.motherjones.com/news/feat...01/12_405.html |
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All democrats and libs have a Disease.It's called the Sick in the Head
disease. cuhulin |
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Dr.DaviD-PhD, you remind me of those poor unfortunate ignorant souls,
oops, beings that receive all of their thoughts and information from a single government source - The Chinese Coomunist Party. Have you ever tried to carry on a conversation with a lifelong mainland resident? It is like talking to a 10 year old child. That is what you remind me of. Colonel Kwiatkowski A COLONEL!? LMFAO!!! Colonel as in Colonel Klink! Heil Hitler! ROTFLMAO! Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, formerly of the Department of Defense, claims that George W. Bush toppled Saddam Hussein because Hussein's trade under the abused Oil-for-Food program was conducted in Euros, rather than dollars. This move by Saddam, she said, could cause "almost glacial shifts in confidence in trading on the dollar...(so) one of the first executive orders that Bush signed in May (2003) switched trading on Iraq's oil back to the dollar." She also circulates Lyndon LaRouche's rhetoric to the credulous, Hate America Left, and she carved a handy (and, no doubt, profitable) niche for herself on the domestic left-wing, as a result. Who is this Karen Kwiatkowski, this pundit who came seemingly out of nowhere to elicit praise and collaboration from the elite media organs of the Left? She first became prominent for saying what Donald Rumsfeld's critics believed all along: that forces of appeasement in the Department of Defense (the "non-violent lobby," as the Left would have it) were thwarted by the nefarious forces clustered around the Office of Special Plans, whose policies are designed only to defend Israel. A recently retired USAF lieutenant colonel, Kwiatkowski is making a name for herself in the media, writing for the American Conservative, Salon, LewRockwell.com, MilitaryWeek.Com and a growing list of leftist publications. Left-wing organs pass her off as the quintessential "good soldier," a Pentagon staffer who was so appalled by the run-up to Operation Iraqi Freedom that she resigned in protest. Kwiatkowski spent her last four-and-a-half years in uniform working at the Pentagon. Her active service closed with a stint from May 2002 through February 2003 in the office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Policy, Near East/South Asia and Special Plans. Kwiatkowski's popularity shows the growing confluence between the Old Right and the Hate America Left. Kwiatkowski began as a columnist for LewRockwell.com, a website devoted to the legacy of libertarian economist Murray Rothbard and other vanity political concerns. The pairing seemed odd from the start. Kwiatkowski deriving the bulk of her reported income by working for the army. Her other credentials were earned working for the federal government, yet she feels at home on a site whose intellectual forebears have written about the dangers of large standing armies and long to dissolve entire sectors of the government. It's strange that someone who worked to defend foreign nations ended up on a website with articles like "Socialism and Foreign Aid." And her parroting of the site's claim that the current war is the work of Zionist hustlers would seem opposed to the detachment necessary for military planning. How far is Kwiatkowski willing to go to undo and undermine her former colleagues at the Pentagon? A recent interview with the leftist tabloid LA Weekly has been prominently featured at terrorist- sympathizer site aljazeerah.info, nestled amidst headlines like "Israeli Daily Aggression on the Palestinian people," "Occupational Depravity American Style" and "Palestine's Dance of Life Defeats Israel's Dance of Death." Her interview with Marc Cooper is notable. To sum up, the self- proclaimed "lifelong conservative" was appalled by the "neoconservative coup" and its "relentless push for war with Iraq." Though U.S. military operations in Iraq, like the enforcement of Clintonian sanctions (which, the Left never tires of telling us, were responsible for thousands of innocent Iraqi deaths) and No-Fly Zones, continued from the end of Desert Storm, Kwiatkowski isn't concerned about that. Rather, she complained that she had no influence over Iraqi policy from her position as an expert on North Africa. A good soldier would've done what she was told and handled her area of expertise. But the ambitious Kwiatkowski had other plans. Purportedly to preserve her sanity, she began writing "funny, short essays" and sending them to David Hackworth's Soldiers for the Truth website. And so a writer was born. A look at some of Kwiatkowski's quips illuminates both the tone of the interview and the impact of her work: "Karl Rove…I suggest building a fire line post haste. The neo-conservative and Straussian imperialists in this administration, for the first time perhaps, will serve magnificently." She carped that "big-spending, war-mongering, Empire- seeking and ultra-Nixonian secret keeper Dick Cheney is the ugly spawn of a Party that once articulated small government." In her estimation, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were "fools" while the embattled Douglas Feith was simply "foul." She gave her interviewer, Marc Cooper, much latitude to condemn the Pentagon that currently pays her pension. Cooper was unchallenged when referring to Abe Shulsky of the OSP as the "overseeing monitor of the propaganda flow"; in fact, she played into one of the Left's favorite conspiracy theories, asserting that Shulsky "is a neoconservative…he has that Straussian academic perspective." When not dangling Leo Strauss before leftists, in the manner of Lyndon LaRouche, she also pursues the War-for-Oil conspiracy. In the LA Weekly interview, she contends George W. Bush's "elective" war may have been waged because of the international petroleum marketing: "The switch Saddam Hussein made in the Food for Oil [sic.] program, from the dollar to the euro. He did this, by the way, long before 9/11, in November 2000.... If oil, a very solid commodity, is traded on the euro, that could cause massive, almost glacial, shifts in confidence in trading on the dollar. So one of the first executive orders that Bush signed in May [2003] switched trading on Iraq's oil back to the dollar." Like the foreign policy pronouncements of so many of this writer's former paleoconservative friends, Kwiatkowski's assertions contradict themselves many times over. Yet Kwiatkowski's work has been cited by dissident journalist after dissident journalist. Pat Buchanan, Jason Vest, and Eric Alterman have been just a few of the names to take her accounts of the prewar gamesmanship in the Pentagon as Gospel. Still, succor from the far ends of the political spectrum doesn't buy a journalist much credibility - only access to the mainstream press would do that. Happily for Kwiatkowski, such credibility was conferred upon her. The left-liberal Salon.com introduced her to its readers and embraced a new promotional gimmick simultaneously on March 10. This was pulled off an enthusiastic verve that would make Kwiatkowski the envy of most virgin contributors: "Welcome, MoveOn members, to Salon! Our new Washington bureau brings you this report from within the belly of the Bush administration beast - an eyewitness account of how radical ideologues hijacked the American government along the road to war in Iraq. Salon usually requires readers to watch a short ad or subscribe in order to view a complete article, but we thought this story was just too important - so we're giving you full access without further ado." In her work for Salon, as with her work for American Conservative, Kwiatkowski lived up to such advance billing with her unsparing look into the "belly of the beast" and the "radical ideologues" who "hijacked the American government." Salon readers and MoveOn members read how pernicious was her "duty in a strange new country, observing up close and personal a process of decision making for war not sanctioned by the Constitution." It is difficult to overstate the importance of a figure like Kwiatkowski. For one, her former position in the DOD lends her (unwarranted) credibility as an "insider." As a conservative, she gives leftists who cite her added legitimacy. The motifs scored by Kwiatkowski, Justin "Mossad Conspiracy" Raimondo and Pat "Whose War?" Buchanan are toxic to our troops in harm's way; internal dissension emboldens the terrorists and endangers the public's political support of our troops. But just as important in evaluating Kwiatkowski's legacy when it is finally written is looking at her work and answering the following question: what is she really trying to say? She advances the shared anti-American views of Lyndon LaRouche and George Soros, claiming opposition to U.S. "militarism" is the last bastion of true patriotism. In other words, the terrorists are right: we have met the enemy, and he is us. is a friend of Lew Rockwell, who works for the Von Mises Institute, who you frequently cite. and works of which you have never read a single sentance. http://www.motherjones.com/news/feat...01/12_405.html January/February 2004 Issue LOL You cite me an 5 year old article that has been completely debunked long ago from a source in bed with Neo-Communist Liberal Fascists! Yawn. Mother Jones is a bimonthly magazine and website named for socialist "union organizer" Mary Harris "Mother" Jones (1830-1930). It prides itself on continuing her pursuit of socialist "social justice" by doing investigative reporting that mostly targets corporations, capitalists, private property, and Republican political officeholders. Well-known leftist editors and writers on this magazine's masthead include Todd Gitlin, Molly Ivins, Bill McKibben, Richard Rodriguez, William Saletan, Orville Schell, Eric Schlosser, and Amy Wilentz. Mother Jones began taking shape in 1974 when the Watergate scandal was demonstrating how investigative reporting could weaken and oust a Republican President elected by an overwhelming majority. Its genesis was a failed attempt to save the reigning radical magazine of the day, Ramparts. Ramparts editor David Horowitz had put together a team consisting of labor journalist Paul Jacobs, leftist entrepreneur Richard Parker, and leftist millionaire Adam Hochschild to take over Ramparts from its retiring editors, Horowitz and Peter Collier. When the trio had a falling out with Ramparts staffers, they elected to leave and create their own magazine, which became Mother Jones. The magazine was launched in February 1976. Mother Jones focuses heavily on the evils of capitalism and the alleged desirability of government control over business. On a global level, the magazine reserves its harshest condemnations for the U.S. and Israel, and is staunchly supportive of Marxist regimes like Fidel Castro's Cuba. In 1986 Mother Jones hired a young Michigan underground newspaper founder named Michael Moore as its Editor. Five months later, Moore was fired after he rejected an article by socialist Paul Berman, a piece that Moore claimed was "unfairly critical" of the Sandinista dictatorship in Nicaragua. Moore sued, claiming wrongful dismissal. He pocketed $58,000 in an out-of-court settlement of his lawsuit, then used the money to produce his first film documentary, "Roger and Me." The Mother Jones magazine and website are owned by the non-profit, tax- exempt Foundation for National Progress (FNP), a 501(c)(3) "public- interest media organization." FNP has been supported by other left- leaning foundations, among them the Bill Moyers-run Schumann Center for Media and Democracy, the Arca Foundation, the Joyce Foundation, the Streisand Foundation, the Irving Harris Foundation, Kansas City Community Foundation, the Lannan Foundation, the David and Lucile Packard Foundation, and the Park Foundation. In 2000, the magazine, website and Foundation took in (from grants, donations, subscriptions, newsstand sales, rental of its mailing lists. and advertising) nearly $6 million. From 2002 to 2004, FNP received $410,000 in foundation grants. http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6959 |
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On Sep 14, 2:29*pm, wrote:
On Sep 14, 2:02*pm, wrote: On Sep 14, 10:20*am, Dave wrote: wrote: Very revealing how you so [conveniently] omitted the ACLU from your post: Only to you. *I am concerned, but I am not now, nor have I ever been a Communist (not that there's anything wrong with it...) "About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.'" "(...) the place [CIA] became more liberal in the 1990s as the agency pushed out hundreds of longtime employees and the Clintonites put their people in place." http://www.enterstageright.com/archi...07scarboroughi... author of *"Sabotage - America's Enemies Within The CIA" http://www.amazon.com/Sabotage-Ameri.../dp/1596985100 How current and former CIA officers fueled conspiracy theories that President Bush orchestrated the 9/11 attacks on America How a CIA leak to the New York Times deprived the U.S. of critical information in the War on Terror How press leaks by the CIA have damaged relations with our foreign allies in the WAr on Terror How a CIA analyst worked with Democrats to sabotage the nomination of John Bolton to tha UN HOW CLINTON'S DOWNSIZING OF THE CIA LED TO THE CLOSING OF STATIONS IN SCORES OF JIHADIST BREEDING GROUNDS - INCLUDING HAMBURG, GERMANY, WHERE THE 9/11 PLOT WAS HATCHED. "We are really still paying for what happened to the CIA and the whole intelligence community in the 90s. For example, the CIA structure in Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, was down to a handful of officers by the end of the 90s. The CIA closed scores of bases during the 90s, all over the world, including in Hamburg, Germany -- the place where the 9/11 plot really began, and where radicalized Muslims were really cropping up in Europe." "Secondly, in the 90s we did not invest in technology to eavesdrop on these people, and in Sabotage I explain that the National Security Agency has been playing catch-up to try to come up with new technologies to match e-mail and the Internet. These two things burgeoned in the 90s, and they paralleled the rise of radical Islam. But NASA’s budget was going down, the CIA’s budget was going down. We just didn’t keep up." "About three years ago JOHN MCCAIN became probably the first politician who declared the CIA a 'rogue agency.' And it is because inside the CIA, the bureaucracy at Langley had a priority of leaking and stopping Bush administration programs, rather than following the policy directives of the White House. And we’ve seen that in countless leaks about terrorist surveillance programs, the prisons where they were trying to interrogate top-ranking al Qaeda prisoners, in station reports from Baghdad. When Porter Goss took over the CIA in 2004, really trying to reform it, what happened? He died by a million leaks. It was a cut every day, until Porter Goss by 2006 actually was forced out. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21538 "As violence in Iraq mounted, CIA officers rarely left their protected station in the heavily secured Green Zone of Baghdad...It was no surprise that the CIA failed to penetrate the insurgent organizations in Iraq. Officers were heard complaining about their assignment to Iraq and about ‘Bush's war.' Army general George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, complained that CIA analytical reports were superficial, and that topics raised in the reports were not pursued." http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...e_rowan_scarbo... First of all, the term: "Liberal Fascist" cannot be by correct any definition. But, I look at who posted it and just shake my head. You really are quite the republican puppet aren't you? You are a puppet of Neo-Communism. http://www.reason.com/blog/show/124122.html |
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