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December 2nd 08, 12:46 AM
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Pirate on 1610 kHz?
Brenda Ann wrote:
snip I had never seen TV skip until I was 19.. when I was watching local channel 2 (KATU) in Portland and over the span of a couple minutes I ended up watching the news on CKCK channel 2 in Regina, SK, Canada. RF is black magic..  One thing that I will most most after the DTV transition is VHF TV skip; I still have (nighttime) dreams about TV skip. I imagine that the signal management controls in DTV rcvrs will simply disable display when confronted with skip. Any thoughts? Michael |
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#12
December 2nd 08, 01:30 AM
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"msg" wrote in message ... Brenda Ann wrote: snip I had never seen TV skip until I was 19.. when I was watching local channel 2 (KATU) in Portland and over the span of a couple minutes I ended up watching the news on CKCK channel 2 in Regina, SK, Canada. RF is black magic.. One thing that I will most most after the DTV transition is VHF TV skip; I still have (nighttime) dreams about TV skip. I imagine that the signal management controls in DTV rcvrs will simply disable display when confronted with skip. Any thoughts? Skip will be a lot more of a challenge, especially since the number of VHF channels will decrease, but it will still be possible. As long as the systems are compatible (US/Canada/Mexico), the television won't care a whit. Capture effect may work even better than it does for analog. As with analog, though, open local channels would be easiest. |
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#13
December 2nd 08, 02:25 PM
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Pirate on 1610 kHz?
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Brenda Ann wrote: snip I had never seen TV skip until I was 19.. when I was watching local channel 2 (KATU) in Portland and over the span of a couple minutes I ended up watching the news on CKCK channel 2 in Regina, SK, Canada. RF is black magic.. One thing that I will most most after the DTV transition is VHF TV skip; I still have (nighttime) dreams about TV skip. I imagine that the signal management controls in DTV rcvrs will simply disable display when confronted with skip. Any thoughts? Michael The receivers aren't that smart. TV will still skip. |
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#14
December 2nd 08, 06:38 PM
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msg wrote: Brenda Ann wrote: snip I had never seen TV skip until I was 19.. when I was watching local channel 2 (KATU) in Portland and over the span of a couple minutes I ended up watching the news on CKCK channel 2 in Regina, SK, Canada. RF is black magic.. One thing that I will most most after the DTV transition is VHF TV skip; I still have (nighttime) dreams about TV skip. I imagine that the signal management controls in DTV rcvrs will simply disable display when confronted with skip. Any thoughts? There's been some discussion in the DTV groups (alt.tv.tech.hdtv, alt.video.digital-tv). There's a threshold effect in the reception, so if the skip is stronger than the normal transmission by that amount, I'd expect that will be what you get. If the tuner were too picky, people who get marginal reception wouldn't get anything at all. Turns out that you can park your set or converter box on a channel, a lot of the units will pick up the PSIP(?) channel data and save it in the channel table, so you get an automatic ID. About a third of the local (Seattle) stations are hopeless for me to get reliable reception. But if I know their RF channel, I can set my converter box until a plane or ship goes by and pull the channel ID out of the ghosts and check later to see what subchannels they have running. (Hmmm, PAX and the Sportsman's Channel, well, no loss). Lightning and other impulse noise are bad news for ATSC, so most of the stations didn't stay on low VHF, where it's the worst. Mark Zenier Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com) |
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#15
December 3rd 08, 09:46 AM
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Pirate on 1610 kHz?
On Nov 30, 11:43*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message ... wrote: Searching the web Maybe KINO???? which does transmit on 1610 according to a web search & their own webpage If I remember right, 1610 was used to transmit local information at one time & didn't allow public broadcast.... Did you hear this at night or during the day??? It was this morning. *1610 is Travelers' Information Services. *There are no regular stations authorized on that channel. *I asked Roy if he could pick it up as he is near Oakhurst, but the guy is so drugged-up that never came to pass. CFOS * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *COLLINGWOOD ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 105873 CFOS * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *COLLINGWOOD ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 105873 CJWI * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *MONTREAL QC CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 136195 CJWI * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *MONTREAL QC CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 136195 NEW * * * *AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 158668 NEW * * * *AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 158668 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * 5-- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND2 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND2 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * 4-- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND * Daytime * * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * 10.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND * Nighttime * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * 7-- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CJWI * * * AM 1610 kHz ND * Daytime * * * * C C - * *MONTREAL QC CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 136195 CJWI * * * AM 1610 kHz ND * Nighttime * * * C C - * *MONTREAL QC CA * * * 9-- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 136195 My best TIS DX. I'm parked by the ET Highway with a Wellbrook loop. I find a TIS and wonder where in this hell hole would they have a TIS. Then it turns out to be coming from LAX. http://www.lazygranch.com/sound/lax_530_etgravel.wav |
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December 3rd 08, 09:47 AM
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Pirate on 1610 kHz?
On Dec 1, 10:32*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message ... I'm in Southern California. *No Canadian station on 1610 is going to make it into L. A. at 9:30 in the morning. It's still possible. In the early 60's when 4 VEH from Haiti was on 1035, a number of NE Ohio DXers, myself included, heard it well enough to ID the Kreyol broadcasts around noon local time in deep winter. 1035 is near the middle of the AM band: 1610 is approaching shortwave. DX....DX... Oh that is what we did before night time IBOC. |
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December 3rd 08, 09:48 PM
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On Dec 3, 5:35*am, Dave wrote:
wrote: On Nov 30, 11:43 pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote: "Dave" wrote in message om... wrote: Searching the web Maybe KINO???? which does transmit on 1610 according to a web search & their own webpage If I remember right, 1610 was used to transmit local information at one time & didn't allow public broadcast.... Did you hear this at night or during the day??? It was this morning. *1610 is Travelers' Information Services. *There are no regular stations authorized on that channel. *I asked Roy if he could pick it up as he is near Oakhurst, but the guy is so drugged-up that never came to pass. CFOS * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *COLLINGWOOD ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 105873 CFOS * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *COLLINGWOOD ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 105873 CJWI * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *MONTREAL QC CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 136195 CJWI * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *MONTREAL QC CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 136195 NEW * * * *AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 158668 NEW * * * *AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 158668 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * 5-- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND2 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND2 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * 4-- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND * Daytime * * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * 10.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND * Nighttime * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * 7-- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CJWI * * * AM 1610 kHz ND * Daytime * * * * C C - * *MONTREAL QC CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 136195 CJWI * * * AM 1610 kHz ND * Nighttime * * * C C - * *MONTREAL QC CA * * * 9-- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 136195 My best TIS DX. I'm parked by the ET Highway with a Wellbrook loop. I find a TIS and wonder where in this hell hole would they have a TIS. Then it turns out to be coming from LAX. http://www.lazygranch.com/sound/lax_530_etgravel.wav LAX is 100 Watts. *10 times most TIS stations' power. *I know I was not hearing Ontario or Quebeq. I checked at you are correct. However, when I first DXed the signal, I'm pretty sure it was only 25 watts. |
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