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On Feb 17, 9:26�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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Satellite is in Year 9 now, and still loses nearly $1 billion a year and
may
not survive.


Eduardo - You're a bit mistaken, at least as far as ibiquity is
concerned. �If I recall (and I do), Struble boldly stated several
years back that his hd radio would become the "norm" in a few short
years. �Go back through recent radio history and check it for
yourself.


Nobody counted on a recession that started over a year ago. Everything
slowed down, particularly the new car market which is nearly dead. Nobody
ever expected Toyota to report a huge loss, either.

In case you haven't noticed - a few short years have come and gone -
good buddy.


No, from the time HD was launched, its not even 3 years.

also stated that when you purchase a radio you would automatically
assume you purchased an hd "digital" radio. �Didn't happen - not even
close.


And in these times, it won't.



Once again you look at the world in your typical distorted way but
it's always fun talking to you anyway. �You do need to get another
profession thought.


Nah, I'm fine in the one I am in...


"Nobody counted on a recession that started over a year ago.
Everything
slowed down, particularly the new car market which is nearly dead.
Nobody
ever expected Toyota to report a huge loss, either."

Did you cont on zero consumer interest in HD Radio?
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On Feb 16, 10:39*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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At least when FM came on the scene there were plenty of FM radios to
choose from - so that old and tired comparison from ibquity is
meaningless.

FM began prior to W.W. II, and then changed from 47 MHz to the current band
after the War. There were no radios available.

By 1950, there were over 1000 FM stations licensed (source, Broadcasting
Yearbook 1950) yet by 1960 there were only around 650 (idem, '60 edition)..
There were hardly any radios available, and the ones that were out there
cost many times that of a common AM radio. That was 20 years after FM
stations began to broadcast.

In 1977, FM surpassed AM in audience. Today, in many markets, AM has less
than 10% of all listening.

Whether HD will work during a recession is anybody's guess. And whether AM
is even worth trying is on many owner's minds. But expecting a change in a
couple of years is absurd.


- Satellite is in Year 9 now, and still loses nearly
- $1 billion a year and may not survive.

Point-of-Fact : There is Not One Dollar in the Great
Obama Stimulus {Porkulus} Bill for Satellite Radio.
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At least when FM came on the scene there were plenty of FM radios to
choose from - so that old and tired comparison from ibquity is
meaningless.


FM began prior to W.W. II, and then changed from 47 MHz to the current band
after the War. There were no radios available.


By 1950, there were over 1000 FM stations licensed (source, Broadcasting
Yearbook 1950) yet by 1960 there were only around 650 (idem, '60 edition).
There were hardly any radios available, and the ones that were out there
cost many times that of a common AM radio. That was 20 years after FM
stations began to broadcast.


In 1977, FM surpassed AM in audience. Today, in many markets, AM has less
than 10% of all listening.


Whether HD will work during a recession is anybody's guess. And whether AM
is even worth trying is on many owner's minds. But expecting a change in a
couple of years is absurd.


Satellite is in Year 9 now, and still loses nearly $1 billion a year and may
not survive.


What advantage do broadcasters have over webcasters? Towers.

Nationwide wireless web access is on our horizon, with consumers
receiving content via paid or free access supported by advertisers.
Every radio will be web enabled.

- So get ready for URADIO created in many
- forms and colors.
- One form will be commercial broadcasters,
- competing head on with a guy or gal creating
- basement content. Google that!

? U-Radio ? {URADIO}
http://www.google.com/search?site=&hl=en&q=uradio

http://www.ummahradio.com/
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On Feb 17, 9:28*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Feb 17, 1:39 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

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Nationwide wireless web access is on our horizon, with consumers
receiving content via paid or free access supported by advertisers.
Every radio will be web enabled.

So get ready for URADIO created in many forms and colors. One form
will be commercial broadcasters, competing head on with a guy or gal
creating basement content. Google that!

It will take a decade just to replace half of the cars on the road in the
US... nearly 20 years to replace them all.

Similarly, there are a total of 700 million to 1 billion total radios in the
US. It will take some time for them all to be replaced. And WiMax, in this
economy, is several years away from rolling out. The infrastructure will
cost hundreds of billions, if it is built.


Automakers who're left have been planning on internet enabled cars for
years. Some have made it as a factory option now, using wifi & g-max
services from Clear Wire & AT&T. They've been slow to adopt HD.
Compared to Ipods, consumers have shown no interest. The ones who've
paid money for HD receivers complain, or return them.
There's been more than one automotive service bulletin regarding HD.

What's missing from wireless web, is consistent coverage, with analog
TV stations making the switch to digital, that frees up white space,
spectrum to be auctioned off to wireless internet providers for the
purpose of building nationwide networks. The economy has hurt some
industries, but given the opportunity and huge potential, this concept
won't sit idle for long.

Unlike when FM was first started, HD doesn't have 10 or 20 years to
evolve, simply because other technologies will supersede it. The era
of listening to a strangers playlist is coming to a close. It might
take 5 or 10 years.
Nationwide wireless access is BIG, it will touch more industries other
than radio. They'll be unlimited opportunities for cell phones
providers, homes phones, television and more, it's endless. And
everything will be connected, including Ipods and even your iron.

Unlike the old dogs, Mcsame and Bush, Obama get's technology and
understands the internet. He also believes
perhaps Rush & Sean Hannity posses to much power. Don't you think the
new FCC chairman will have an agenda to complete beyond the fairness
doctrine? Obama might even provide taxpayer funding..

Nationwide wireless internet is coming, maybe sooner than we know and
every car will be connected. Radio has we know it still has a good
run, but within your lifetime towers will be less important. While
vertical tower revenues will be more important than ever before..



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