On May 7, 7:08*pm, "~ RHF" wrote:
On May 7, 2:54*pm, Kevin Cunningham wrote:



On May 7, 7:03*am, "~ RHF" wrote:

On May 6, 5:56*am, Kevin Cunningham wrote:

On May 5, 5:54*pm, "~ RHF" wrote:

On May 5, 9:09*am, wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2009 05:17:28 -0700 (PDT), Gary Forbis

wrote:
On May 5, 1:00*am, "~ RHF" wrote:

Would "You" Torture A Terrorist To Save The Lives
Of Your Family and Loved Ones ?

Would you cut off your left arm to save the lives of your
family and loved ones? *Do you still have your left arm?
If so then do you have any family and loved ones?

One stupid hypothetical deserves another.
Are your blinders *of your own making?

- Would you blow up a nuclear bomb in NYC to save your family?
-
- You beat me to it.

RG - Just How Does Commiting a Terrorist Act
and Killing Tens of Thousands or Millions of
Innocent Human Beings =Equate To= "You"
Torture A (One) Terrorist To Save The Lives
Of Your Family and Loved Ones ?
*.
OH YEAH TORTURED LIBERAL LOGIC !
*.
The Answer is either a simple : Yes -or- No
*.

The answer is that torture doesn't work.

Another Liberal Lie and Democrat Distortion :
Since what is now being called Torture did
help prevent a 9/11 type Attack on LA.

-*The answer is that you, personally, want to watch. *

KC - If you had ever saw a Family Member, a Friend
or Loved One In-Pain and Suffering : You Would Not
Want To Watch [.]

- You get your rocks off by hearing about torture.

KC - Typical Liberal-Fascist Thinking Torture = Sex.

-*You are a coward.

KC - 'coward'

- - - = = = RHF's Canned Reply 'Rant' = = = - - -
[: To Liberal-Fascist Name Calling :]
ROTFL - You Know When You Are Winning An Argument :
When a Super-Smart 'Enlightened" Liberal Starts Name Calling*.
* They Lose Their Ability To Think And Get Emotional - rotfl ~ RHFhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/318979fbe8546cfa
*.
typical liberal-fascist thinking with respect to other
human beings who do not bow-down to them ~ RHF

- But so what, you want to watch other people being tortured.

KC -clearly- Your 'projections' -wrt- my mental
reasoning and motives; are in-fact a mirror of
your own Psyche with your repeated allusions
to 'watching' and 'sex'.

-*Not that torture ever reveals anything,
- how many witches got burned do you

think? *How many satanists?

KC - Not talking about 'witches' or 'satinists'
unless you personally know of some who have
recently been 'burned' here i the USA.

We are Talking about Islam-O-Fascist Terrorists
who plan Terrorist Attacks like 9/11 and Kill
Thousands of Innocent People Men, Women
and Children.

- The fact is that all the persons involved in torture
- are criminally culpable. *The fact that they won't
- be brought to trial shows what prosecutorial
- discretion is.

KC -fwiw- Personally I 'think' that both Bush and
Cheney should be Accountable; and Said They
Asked For The Legal Advisements On What
Constitutes Torture : State That They Gave The
Orders; and Name The Names of The Members
of the US Congress Who Either Gave The OK
or Their Passive Approval to what is now being
Called Torture After-the-Fact by many of those
same Members of the US Congress.

Pelosi & Reid & Biden + Et Al

Former us president GW Bush and former vp
Dick Cheney need to Stand-Up before the US
Congress On TV and Start Name Names.
*.
*.

- Prove that torture prevented an attack on LA. *You have the floor.

"CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind
Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style Attack on Los Angeles.”http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arc...d_foiled_los_a...

- By the way, did you know that you don't have to capitalize every
thing?

NO I DID NOT ! ) ~ RHF
*.

Riiighhhtttt, and I believe something that is in some blog. Sure, not
in the NY Times, Washington Post, etc.

What a drooling whack job.

Would you like to be tortured? When has the law ever allowed
torture? Remember all the witches that were caught by torture?

On May 8, 7:18*am, Kevin Cunningham wrote:
On May 7, 7:08*pm, "~ RHF" wrote:



On May 7, 2:54*pm, Kevin Cunningham wrote:

On May 7, 7:03*am, "~ RHF" wrote:

On May 6, 5:56*am, Kevin Cunningham wrote:

On May 5, 5:54*pm, "~ RHF" wrote:

On May 5, 9:09*am, wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2009 05:17:28 -0700 (PDT), Gary Forbis

wrote:
On May 5, 1:00*am, "~ RHF" wrote:

Would "You" Torture A Terrorist To Save The Lives
Of Your Family and Loved Ones ?

Would you cut off your left arm to save the lives of your
family and loved ones? *Do you still have your left arm?
If so then do you have any family and loved ones?

One stupid hypothetical deserves another.
Are your blinders *of your own making?

- Would you blow up a nuclear bomb in NYC to save your family?
-
- You beat me to it.

RG - Just How Does Commiting a Terrorist Act
and Killing Tens of Thousands or Millions of
Innocent Human Beings =Equate To= "You"
Torture A (One) Terrorist To Save The Lives
Of Your Family and Loved Ones ?
*.
OH YEAH TORTURED LIBERAL LOGIC !
*.
The Answer is either a simple : Yes -or- No
*.

The answer is that torture doesn't work.

Another Liberal Lie and Democrat Distortion :
Since what is now being called Torture did
help prevent a 9/11 type Attack on LA.

-*The answer is that you, personally, want to watch. *

KC - If you had ever saw a Family Member, a Friend
or Loved One In-Pain and Suffering : You Would Not
Want To Watch [.]

- You get your rocks off by hearing about torture.

KC - Typical Liberal-Fascist Thinking Torture = Sex.

-*You are a coward.

KC - 'coward'

- - - = = = RHF's Canned Reply 'Rant' = = = - - -
[: To Liberal-Fascist Name Calling :]
ROTFL - You Know When You Are Winning An Argument :
When a Super-Smart 'Enlightened" Liberal Starts Name Calling*.
* They Lose Their Ability To Think And Get Emotional - rotfl ~ RHFhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/318979fbe8546cfa
*.
typical liberal-fascist thinking with respect to other
human beings who do not bow-down to them ~ RHF

- But so what, you want to watch other people being tortured.

KC -clearly- Your 'projections' -wrt- my mental
reasoning and motives; are in-fact a mirror of
your own Psyche with your repeated allusions
to 'watching' and 'sex'.

-*Not that torture ever reveals anything,
- how many witches got burned do you

think? *How many satanists?

KC - Not talking about 'witches' or 'satinists'
unless you personally know of some who have
recently been 'burned' here i the USA.

We are Talking about Islam-O-Fascist Terrorists
who plan Terrorist Attacks like 9/11 and Kill
Thousands of Innocent People Men, Women
and Children.

- The fact is that all the persons involved in torture
- are criminally culpable. *The fact that they won't
- be brought to trial shows what prosecutorial
- discretion is.

KC -fwiw- Personally I 'think' that both Bush and
Cheney should be Accountable; and Said They
Asked For The Legal Advisements On What
Constitutes Torture : State That They Gave The
Orders; and Name The Names of The Members
of the US Congress Who Either Gave The OK
or Their Passive Approval to what is now being
Called Torture After-the-Fact by many of those
same Members of the US Congress.

Pelosi & Reid & Biden + Et Al

Former us president GW Bush and former vp
Dick Cheney need to Stand-Up before the US
Congress On TV and Start Name Names.
*.
*.

- Prove that torture prevented an attack on LA. *You have the floor.

"CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind
Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style Attack on Los Angeles.”http://www..outsidethebeltway.com/ar...d_foiled_los_a...

- By the way, did you know that you don't have to capitalize every
thing?

NO I DID NOT ! ) ~ RHF
*.

Riiighhhtttt, and I believe something that is in some blog. *Sure, not
in the NY Times, Washington Post, etc.

What a drooling whack job.

- Would you like to be tortured?
-*When has the law ever allowed torture?
-*Remember all the witches that were caught by torture?

KC - OK in what Age are you living that you
continually refer to "Witches" Burning and
Torture . . .

wrote:
On Thu, 07 May 2009 19:17:25 -0400, "Who i$ John Galt" "Men of the
wrote:

Prove that torture prevented an attack on LA. You have the floor.

Prove that Obama has saved any jobs?


It's on the news almost every night. Plant managers, town managers
saying we had given these people notice they were being let go, but
the stimulus let us keep them. Turn off FUX news and learn something.

over 600,000,000 jobs lost. No rise in jobs, no hits, no bases, no runs.


Obama has saved zero jobs, but he has been costing us plenty of jobs,
every time Obama over steps the constitution and beats up on industry
and investors, because that drives money away from the Obama economy.

Geitner was just today saying that they fixed things so *new capital*
could come into the markets, who in their right mind would put money
where Obama can do to you what Obama just did to *GM investors* who have
*their capital* in this Obama market. They should have pulled out when
Obama took office, they'd be way ahead of the game right now. Those GM
investors are standing there with nothing *they lost it all* , if they
had run from the market the day Obama won the election they would be the
big winners today.

I hate to say it but the GM investors didn't believe what Others and I
were saying, Obama is a Socialist and Obama is after *EVERYONES*
capital. He is just waiting for a chance to get his foot in the door,
when that happens he will *TAKE YOUR CAPITAL* TOO.

wrote:
On Thu, 07 May 2009 22:33:18 -0400, "Who i$ John Galt" "Men of the
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 07 May 2009 19:17:25 -0400, "Who i$ John Galt" "Men of the
wrote:

Prove that torture prevented an attack on LA. You have the floor.

Prove that Obama has saved any jobs?

It's on the news almost every night. Plant managers, town managers
saying we had given these people notice they were being let go, but
the stimulus let us keep them. Turn off FUX news and learn something.
over 6,000,000 jobs lost.

LOL. In a country of 300 million losing 600 million is quite a trick.


Surely you see the typo, ~6million is all over the news and I typed a
few extra 00 by mistake, but then no one ever makes typing errors here.

These typo flames are really tiresome I see people attacking others for
simple things. I watch them all slide by W/O commenting on obvious
errors because it's not relevant to the subject.

The job loses started increasing in Dec. 07.

Here's the monthly job loss figures in 100,000s:

Date Value
2009M3 -663
2009M2 -651
2009M1 -741
2008M12 -681
2008M11 -597
2008M10 -380
2008M9 -321
2008M8 -175
2008M7 -128
2008M6 -161
2008M5 -137
2008M4 -160
2008M3 -122
2008M2 -144
2008M1 -72
2007M12 120
2007M11 215





No rise in jobs, no hits, no bases, no runs.

Well duh he was handed the worst recession since the great depression
and you're upset he hasn't solved it in 100 days? Grow up.

"Shovel ready" jobs and $800billion in BAIL-OUT money, where did the
money go? Where are they using it?


Obama has saved zero jobs, but he has been costing us plenty of jobs,

No that was Bush's debacle.


THIS president is in charge now. Bush hasn't lost a job since Jan 20.

every time he over steps the constitution and beats up on industry and
investors, because that drives money away from the Obama economy.

Geitner was just today saying that they fixed thing so new capital could
come into the markets, who in their right mind would put money where
Obama could do to you what he did to GM investors with capital in this
market. They should have pulled out when Obama took office, they'd be
way ahead of the game.

The markets are begging for this. Again, grow up.


Then the Market is full of fools and they will be parted from their
money soon.

Obama will steal their Capital as he did to GM investors CAPITAL.

On May 7, 4:35*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 07 May 2009 19:17:25 -0400, "Who i$ John Galt" "Men of the

wrote:
Prove that torture prevented an attack on LA. *You have the floor.

Prove that Obama has saved any jobs?

It's on the news almost every night. Plant managers, town managers
saying we had given these people notice they were being let go, but
the stimulus let us keep them. Turn off FUX news and learn something.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/rtd/new...ate_regional_g...
With funds from President Barack Obama's plan to jump-start the
economy, college tuition increases will be reduced, fewer state
employees will lose their jobs and mental hospitals will stay open.
Cuts for sheriff's offices were restored.

http://www.nypolitics.com/2009/03/31...-jobs-saved-by...
When Bloomberg presented his preliminary budget plan in January for
the city’s next fiscal year, he warned that some 14,000 teachers could
be laid off because of the drop in state funding.

On Monday, he said it is likely those jobs are now safe. He also said
the city is not going to lay off large numbers of teachers.

http://www.clantonadvertiser.com/new...n-says-3800-jo...

Morton says 3,800 jobs saved by stimulus

By Desiree Hunter | The Associated Press

Published Monday, March 23, 2009

MONTGOMERY — Nearly 3,800 Alabama teaching jobs that were in danger of
being lost will be spared for at least two years thanks to the federal
economic stimulus package, State Superintendent Joe Morton announced
Monday.

GM will be Closing Plants and Furloughing
most of it's Employees for 9+ Weeks due to
the Obama-Regime's© Fascist Management
Take-Over of that Corporation and Forcing its
Bankruptcy - Now That' Job Creation

On May 8, 7:24*am, Kevin Cunningham wrote:
On May 7, 10:33*pm, "Who i$ John Galt" "Men of the Mind"@Talk-n-



Dog..com wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 07 May 2009 19:17:25 -0400, "Who i$ John Galt" "Men of the
wrote:

Prove that torture prevented an attack on LA. *You have the floor..

Prove that Obama has saved any jobs?

It's on the news almost every night. Plant managers, town managers
saying we had given these people notice they were being let go, but
the stimulus let us keep them. Turn off FUX news and learn something.

over 600,000,000 jobs lost. *No rise in jobs, no hits, no bases, no runs.

Obama has saved zero jobs, but he has been costing us plenty of jobs,
every time he over steps the constitution and beats up on industry and
investors, because that drives money away from the Obama economy.

Geitner was just today saying that they fixed thing so new capital could
come into the markets, who in their right mind would put money where
Obama could do to you what he did to GM investors with capital in this
market. *They should have pulled out when Obama took office, they'd be
way ahead of the game.

- This recession started under Bush.

NO The Recession Began in 2007 Under
The Pelosi-Reid Democrat Controlled US
Congress and in 2009 the Never-Ending
Recession-Depression Continues . . .

Brenda Ann wrote:
"Who i$ John Galt" "Men of the wrote in message
.. .
When you select someone and specifically plan and try to kill them....?

I tend to call it assassination. War is indiscriminate attacks on a
military not targeting one single person.


Not totally accurate. Though most of war is indeed indiscriminate, there are
very often specific missions in which there is a specific and known target,
such as a high ranking officer.



To assassinate him? Or to defeat his troops?

On May 8, 6:00*am, dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:

Michael W. Bryant, LTI's prize dufus who once claimed to have a PhD, wrote:

On May 7, 6:45 pm, "~ RHF" wrote:

Again MWB Here Is The Question :
Would "You" {Dave} Torture A Terrorist To Save
The Lives Of Your Family and Loved Ones ?

MWB as for "Me" RHF that Answer is Simple
"YES" I Would & 'Yes' I Could & 'Yes' I Will [.]

because after all - i am only human and
they are my family and loved ones ~ RHF
*.
RHF,

Yes, I'd torture to save my own family. But, I'd be committing a crime
and would expect to face *prosecution. It would be worth it to save my
family, but I know I'd be committing a crime.

So? You've already been busted for smoking pot with your students and also once
claimed to have a PhD.

After that, what's one more crime, dufus?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

- Ace, there's nothing wrong with smoking
- marijuana with consenting adults.

Dave - Except It Is Breaking California State
and US Federal Laws.

Dave -but- If you do not mind suffering the 'potential'
Legal Consequences : puff, Puff. PUFF ! Away

On May 8, 10:00*am, wrote:
On Thu, 7 May 2009 03:02:11 -0700 (PDT), "~ RHF"

wrote:
- - BAD It is good to see that you know what
- - you are 'For' and 'Against' and can answer
- - with a simple 'Yes' or 'No' ~

- Ah the simple mind LOVES simple answers.

RG,

The Question called for an Average Joe "Common
Sense" {Gut Feeling} Man-on-the-Street Answer.

Yes. -or- No.

Not an overcomplicated "Intellectualized" Reply.

rg - simple is not necessarily 'simple minded'
while 'common-sense' usually makes sense
-and- for many/most 'feelings' are facts ~ RHF

~ RHF wrote:


- Ace, there's nothing wrong with smoking
- marijuana with consenting adults.

Dave - Except It Is Breaking California State
and US Federal Laws.

Prop 215 made smoking pot legal with a Doctor's recommendation. I have one.

The DEA has been instructed to stop raiding dispensaries operating
legally under state law.