The police should investigate all the people who have extorted Michael
Jackson, over the years.

Drugs didn't kill Michael Jackson. The people who slandered Jackson
burdened his heart -he lasted far longer than anybody similarily
attacked.

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On Jun 26, 5:05*pm, wrote:
The police should investigate all the people who have extorted Michael
Jackson, over the years.

Drugs didn't kill Michael Jackson. *The people who slandered Jackson
burdened his heart -he lasted far longer than anybody similarily
attacked.

I can say this much, and of course it is just my opinion.

But from everything I know and have studied
for sixteen years about deception, be
it from body language or the voice and
recently through handwriting analysis.


There was absolutely NOTHING, ziltch -
nada that led me to believe that he was
nothing but honest in answering allegations
of child molestation.


Ninety nine per cent of the time when someone
is either being deceptive or just flat out lying
there is some sign, be it body language or even the tonality of
specific words depending on what the question was or actual physical
signs are visible.


If this was truly the case and IMO he was completely
innocent of those charges, MANY MANY people
owe this man an apology.


FWIW, I never purchased anything when it came to
MJ, I liked some of his music without question.
But I wasn't a Michael Jackson fan.


I think he had that "doctor" as his personal physician,
probably paid him a couple million a year to be with him. No one ever
told MJ "No you can't".....IMO even
doctors. If he wanted a shot of demerol, even if the
doc told Michael it wasn't a good idea, the bottom line was.....he
was
going to get the shot or the
doctor was going to be finding himself another
job IMO.


I bet when MJ dropped after that shot of demerol,
that doctor just about had a bowel movement. I bet
he was trying anything and everything to get a beat
of his heart because he knew/knows that if he died
simply because the demerol suppressed his breathing to the point that
it literally stopped his breathing and in turn the heart goes nuts,
this doctor is in a heap of doo doo. Just my take.:-)

"Bushcraftgregg" wrote in message
...
On Jun 26, 5:05 pm, wrote:
The police should investigate all the people who have extorted Michael
Jackson, over the years.

Drugs didn't kill Michael Jackson. The people who slandered Jackson
burdened his heart -he lasted far longer than anybody similarily
attacked.

I can say this much, and of course it is just my opinion.

But from everything I know and have studied
for sixteen years about deception, be
it from body language or the voice and
recently through handwriting analysis.


There was absolutely NOTHING, ziltch -
nada that led me to believe that he was
nothing but honest in answering allegations
of child molestation.


Ninety nine per cent of the time when someone
is either being deceptive or just flat out lying
there is some sign, be it body language or even the tonality of
specific words depending on what the question was or actual physical
signs are visible.


If this was truly the case and IMO he was completely
innocent of those charges, MANY MANY people
owe this man an apology.


I, too have huge doubts about the allegations against Jackson.

There are two possibilities he

1) Jackson did nothing, and these two families were gold diggers looking to
get rich quick through allegations of sexual misconduct that are difficult
to impossible to defend against.

OR

2) Jackson did molest the kids, and the parents are still gold diggers, and
some of the worst parents on the planet. Would any parent that cared about
their child let someone slide on molesting their child just because someone
gave them money to keep quiet?

Then there's the fact that the last case actually went to the jury, and he
still wasn't convicted.

I'll let God sort it out. Only Him, the kids and Jackson know the truth
anyway.

Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bushcraftgregg" wrote in message
...
On Jun 26, 5:05 pm, wrote:
The police should investigate all the people who have extorted Michael
Jackson, over the years.

Drugs didn't kill Michael Jackson. The people who slandered Jackson
burdened his heart -he lasted far longer than anybody similarily
attacked.

I can say this much, and of course it is just my opinion.

But from everything I know and have studied
for sixteen years about deception, be
it from body language or the voice and
recently through handwriting analysis.


There was absolutely NOTHING, ziltch -
nada that led me to believe that he was
nothing but honest in answering allegations
of child molestation.


Ninety nine per cent of the time when someone
is either being deceptive or just flat out lying
there is some sign, be it body language or even the tonality of
specific words depending on what the question was or actual physical
signs are visible.


If this was truly the case and IMO he was completely
innocent of those charges, MANY MANY people
owe this man an apology.


I, too have huge doubts about the allegations against Jackson.

There are two possibilities he

1) Jackson did nothing, and these two families were gold diggers looking to
get rich quick through allegations of sexual misconduct that are difficult
to impossible to defend against.

OR

2) Jackson did molest the kids, and the parents are still gold diggers, and
some of the worst parents on the planet. Would any parent that cared about
their child let someone slide on molesting their child just because someone
gave them money to keep quiet?

Hell, yes...please don't be naive, Brenda. The radio actor that played
'Leroy' (with the high voice) on "The Great Gildersleeve" show was
playing the part of a 12 year old kid when in reality he was 40. Why?
Because he started out as a child radio actor and when his voice started
to change, his mother had him castrated. Every now and again, you hear
in the news about a mother selling her baby for a few hundred bucks. So,
for 21 million dollars, the rotten parents might go along with a little
of Jackson's "touchy-feely" with their kid.

Then there's the fact that the last case actually went to the jury, and he
still wasn't convicted.

I'll let God sort it out. Only Him, the kids and Jackson know the truth
anyway.

Possibly you and the other poster are overlooking something painfully
obvious -- Jackson's own words from his own lips on a national TV
interview saying it was OK to get in bed with young kids. On the
national interview, I'm sure he didn't intend it to be overtly sexual,
but it certainly was somewhere between pretty bizarre at the least and a
de facto admission of guilt at the worst.

As parents of two children, our kids may have gotten in bed with us on
rare occasions (when they were sick or scared of a particularly violent
thunderstorm) up to the age of two or so -- but I don't think any of
Jackson's child "visitors" were that young, to say nothing of the fact
that he wasn't their parent.

Where there is smoke, there is fire?

On Jun 26, 7:29*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"Bushcraftgregg" wrote in message

...
On Jun 26, 5:05 pm, wrote:





The police should investigate all the people who have extorted Michael
Jackson, over the years.

Drugs didn't kill Michael Jackson. The people who slandered Jackson
burdened his heart -he lasted far longer than anybody similarily
attacked.
I can say this much, and of course it is just my opinion.
But from everything I know and have studied
for sixteen years about deception, be
it from body language or the voice and
recently through handwriting analysis.
There was absolutely NOTHING, ziltch -
nada that led me to believe that he was
nothing but honest in answering allegations
of child molestation.
Ninety nine per cent of the time when someone
is either being deceptive or just flat out lying
there is some sign, be it body language or even the tonality of
specific words depending on what the question was or actual physical
signs are visible.
If this was truly the case and IMO he was completely
innocent of those charges, MANY MANY people
owe this man an apology.

I, too have huge doubts about the allegations against Jackson.

There are two possibilities he

1) *Jackson did nothing, and these two families were gold diggers looking to
get rich quick through allegations of sexual misconduct that are difficult
to impossible to defend against.

OR

2) Jackson did molest the kids, and the parents are still gold diggers, and
some of the worst parents on the planet. *Would any parent that cared about
their child let someone slide on molesting their child just because someone
gave them money to keep quiet?

Then there's the fact that the last case actually went to the jury, and he
still wasn't convicted.

I'll let God sort it out. Only Him, the kids and Jackson know the truth
anyway.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Brenda Ann, it was nice to see you saying that,
that you had your doubts also. I trust your
judgement in many things and you know that.

It'll no doubt be interesting to see where all
this goes.

Something I was thinking about earlier today.
Without sounding too crass, after watching video
of those poor children having to go around
in masks.
Sadly, I feel those children will now finally have
a real chance at just being normal children.

Another thing you may have known, but I didn't.
I didn't know that MJ wasn't the actual "biological
father." The lady on tv said that it was common knowledge with the
ones "in the knows" who the
actual sperm donor was and that Michael picked
him.

I found that shocking, I didn't have a clue. Do you
have any idea who the real daddy is?

Sadly IMO, Farrah's death has been over shadowed
by Michael's passing. What a week for Hollywood.

"Bushcraftgregg" wrote in message
news:e6f3868e-6455-41f8-bb57-
Sadly IMO, Farrah's death has been over shadowed
by Michael's passing. What a week for Hollywood.

And that of Ed McMahon. They say these things come in threes.. but I don't
think I've ever seen all three come within 36 hours of each other before...

On Jun 26, 11:29*pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bushcraftgregg" wrote in message
....
On Jun 26, 5:05 pm, wrote:
The police should investigate all the people who have extorted Michael
Jackson, over the years.

Drugs didn't kill Michael Jackson. The people who slandered Jackson
burdened his heart -he lasted far longer than anybody similarily
attacked.

I can say this much, and of course it is just my opinion.

But from everything I know and have studied
for sixteen years about deception, be
it from body language or the voice and
recently through handwriting analysis.

There was absolutely NOTHING, ziltch -
nada that led me to believe that he was
nothing but honest in answering allegations
of child molestation.

Ninety nine per cent of the time when someone
is either being deceptive or just flat out lying
there is some sign, be it body language or even the tonality of
specific words depending on what the question was or actual physical
signs are visible.

If this was truly the case and IMO he was completely
innocent of those charges, MANY MANY people
owe this man an apology.

I, too have huge doubts about the allegations against Jackson.

There are two possibilities he

1) *Jackson did nothing, and these two families were gold diggers looking to
get rich quick through allegations of sexual misconduct that are difficult
to impossible to defend against.

OR

2) Jackson did molest the kids, and the parents are still gold diggers, and
some of the worst parents on the planet. *Would any parent that cared about
their child let someone slide on molesting their child just because someone
gave them money to keep quiet?

Hell, yes...please don't be naive, Brenda. The radio actor that played
'Leroy' (with the high voice) on "The Great Gildersleeve" show was
playing the part of a 12 year old kid when in reality he was 40. Why?
Because he started out as a child radio actor and when his voice started
to change, his mother had him castrated. Every now and again, you hear
in the news about a mother selling her baby for a few hundred bucks. So,
for 21 million dollars, the rotten parents might go along with a little
of Jackson's "touchy-feely" with their kid.



Then there's the fact that the last case actually went to the jury, and he
still wasn't convicted.

I'll let God sort it out. Only Him, the kids and Jackson know the truth
anyway.

Possibly you and the other poster are overlooking something painfully
obvious -- Jackson's own words from his own lips on a national TV
interview saying it was OK to get in bed with young kids. On the
national interview, I'm sure he didn't intend it to be overtly sexual,
but it certainly was somewhere between pretty bizarre at the least and a
de facto admission of guilt at the worst.

As parents of two children, our kids may have gotten in bed with us on
rare occasions (when they were sick or scared of a particularly violent
thunderstorm) up to the age of two or so -- but I don't think any of
Jackson's child "visitors" were that young, to say nothing of the fact
that he wasn't their parent.

Where there is smoke, there is fire?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Joe. Make no mistake about it. I "totally" know
where you are coming from.

But you are looking at MJ's tv interview (about
'sharing your bed with a child' ) the way people
like you and I and I am sure the majority of everyone
else in the group looks at things.

You have to remember who we are speaking about
here. You are talking about an adult who NEVER
got to experience childhood. Think about that.
That is almost more than you or anyone else in this
group can comprehend. I know I can't. I really thought about that the
other day, trying to "put myself
there." I know mentally it made me feel extremely sad
and I was just putting myself in a state to try to experience what he
had to have felt.shaking my head. Pretty sad.

Now picture yourself being blessed with the talent
that he had and the utter disdain he felt for his dad.
Now picture having all the monies you could ever want and finally
being rid of your dad. I think he was so afraid he was starting
to...or going to look like his father that
he had all that cosmetic surgery, and he went to far.

Is it any wonder he surrounded himself with children? They were the
only ones he felt he
could trust and then even THAT was taken away from him.

I don't know. Like I said, I'm pretty studied in the subject of
deception and I'm telling you....there was
NOTHING in any of his interviews that even gave a clue of impropriety.
Like BA said, "let God sort it out."

But maybe now those children can have some semblance of a normal life.
Just my take.

On Jun 26, 11:29*pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bushcraftgregg" wrote in message
....
On Jun 26, 5:05 pm, wrote:
The police should investigate all the people who have extorted Michael
Jackson, over the years.

Drugs didn't kill Michael Jackson. The people who slandered Jackson
burdened his heart -he lasted far longer than anybody similarily
attacked.

I can say this much, and of course it is just my opinion.

But from everything I know and have studied
for sixteen years about deception, be
it from body language or the voice and
recently through handwriting analysis.

There was absolutely NOTHING, ziltch -
nada that led me to believe that he was
nothing but honest in answering allegations
of child molestation.

Ninety nine per cent of the time when someone
is either being deceptive or just flat out lying
there is some sign, be it body language or even the tonality of
specific words depending on what the question was or actual physical
signs are visible.

If this was truly the case and IMO he was completely
innocent of those charges, MANY MANY people
owe this man an apology.

I, too have huge doubts about the allegations against Jackson.

There are two possibilities he

1) *Jackson did nothing, and these two families were gold diggers looking to
get rich quick through allegations of sexual misconduct that are difficult
to impossible to defend against.

OR

2) Jackson did molest the kids, and the parents are still gold diggers, and
some of the worst parents on the planet. *Would any parent that cared about
their child let someone slide on molesting their child just because someone
gave them money to keep quiet?

Hell, yes...please don't be naive, Brenda.

I'll just throw this in Joe. Brenda is far from
naive. ;-)

In article
,
Bushcraftgregg wrote:

SNIP

I'm listening to Art Bell on the radio talking about Jackson right now.
Art said Jackson lived in Pahrump not far from himself.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Brenda Ann wrote:

"Bushcraftgregg" wrote in message
news:e6f3868e-6455-41f8-bb57-
Sadly IMO, Farrah's death has been over shadowed
by Michael's passing. What a week for Hollywood.

And that of Ed McMahon. They say these things come in threes.. but I don't
think I've ever seen all three come within 36 hours of each other before...

I had thought that one might have been Walter Cronkite (KB2GSD), as reports
right around the same time indicate that he is quite ill.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Patiently awaiting the return of my mower from the shop so that I might get
back to work.