On Dec 30, 7:02*pm, Editor RadioTalkingPoints
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Why waste the money? *Just show up in a bathrobe? *Hey, if we are
going to spend that kind of money, why not skip the machine, we get
inspected totally naked, by a TSA employee who is also totally naked
and must have at least two years experience as a stripper? *I mean,
why not have fun with it? *If you are going to have to wait four hours
to check in, what on Earth are you going to do?

Why all the talk of gloom and doom? *You should make me the CEO of
American Airlines, I'll make billions!

I think Mark Stein has rubbed his ideological sense of humor *on my
way of thinking now? *You see what you've done Rush, now I'm having
fun again? *Thanks Mark!

Happy New Year!


Say No all you want. You have already been overruled. This will be
implemented because even though it wouldn't have stopped the
underpants bomber, it's a cool new way for government employees to
seize more control over private citizens, and isn't that what freedom
is all about? The leering and jeering parts are just neat little
bonuses for them, on top of the very generous package of bonuses and
goodies they already enjoy.

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:29:58 GMT, Paul Hyett
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 at 05:17:27, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote in uk.politics.misc :

Far better technique than converting our societies into ever-tightening
"national security" states:

1) Stop invading and occupying other people's countries or fomenting
revolution in them, and 2) stop supporting those who do; if we did so,
90 per cent. of the hatred of the West would disappear in time. At the
same time we need to 3) take steps to prevent the invasion and
occupation of our own lands.

If they stopped carrying out terrorist attacks on the West, *we'd* stop
hassling *them*...



The first arab terrorist attacks against western interests were in
1970. Palestinians hijacking jets. Nobody except Israel was hassling
them but Israel did and still does get a lot of backing from both USA
and UK. The elephant in the room is still there and it's Israel and
Palestine. Sort that and much of the problem will vanish.

The current wave was sparked by the invasion of Iraq. Quite why that
was done I can't work out. If they wanted a villain then the obvious
choice was the country where the Sept 11 hijackers originated. Plus at
the time the same country was holding britons as prisoners and
allegations of torture were being made. We had a real excuse to invade
not like the phony one made for Iraq. The place is a hotbed of
religious fundamentalism. Invading and stamping it out should have
been a prime objective. Perhaps the reason the Saudis were left alone
is because the ruling families are pals with the ruling families in
the west.

On Dec 31, 11:59*am, Alang wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:29:58 GMT, Paul Hyett
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 at 05:17:27, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote in uk.politics.misc :

Far better technique than converting our societies into ever-tightening
"national security" states:

1) Stop invading and occupying other people's countries or fomenting
revolution in them, and 2) stop supporting those who do; if we did so,
90 per cent. of the hatred of the West would disappear in time. At the
same time we need to 3) take steps to prevent the invasion and
occupation of our own lands.

If they stopped carrying out terrorist attacks on the West, *we'd* stop
hassling *them*...

The first arab terrorist attacks against western interests were in
1970. Palestinians hijacking jets. *Nobody except Israel was hassling
them but Israel did and still does get a lot of backing from both USA
and UK. The elephant in the room is still there and it's Israel and
Palestine. Sort that and much of the problem will vanish.

The current wave was sparked by the invasion of Iraq. Quite why that
was done I can't work out. If they wanted a villain then the obvious
choice was the country where the Sept 11 hijackers originated. Plus at
the time the same country was holding britons as prisoners and
allegations of torture were being made. We had a real excuse to invade
not like the phony one made for Iraq. The place is a hotbed of
religious fundamentalism. Invading and stamping it out should have
been a prime objective. *Perhaps the reason the Saudis were left alone
is because the ruling families are pals with the ruling families in
the west.

.....and they have their own private plane....;-)

aracari wrote:

That assumes terrorists are responding to something the West has
done to them. This may be the excuse used by a tiny minority of
nutcases, but overwhelmingly the reason is hatred and jealousy,
ie they're varieties of socialists who want to destroy the current
global social order by imposing their ideology onto the rest of us
through intimidation and fear.

Well the old Islamic caliphate they wish to restore was a lot of things,
but never Socialist...

--
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.

On 31 Dec, 08:59, broadssailor wrote:
On 31 Dec, 07:29, Paul Hyett wrote:



On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 at 05:17:27, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote in uk.politics.misc :

Far better technique than converting our societies into ever-tightening
"national security" states:

1) Stop invading and occupying other people's countries or fomenting
revolution in them, and 2) stop supporting those who do; if we did so,
90 per cent. of the hatred of the West would disappear in time. At the
same time we need to 3) take steps to prevent the invasion and
occupation of our own lands.

If they stopped carrying out terrorist attacks on the West, *we'd* stop
hassling *them*...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

Chicken and the egg......
America has long tried to change the world into it's own vision. The
UK has been its Poodle, certainly since Thatchers time, and probably
before.The 'Special relationship' IMHO is something which exists only
in the minds of some British politicians.
I do feel however, that the time has come for 'profiling' at airport
security. The Authorities know who is a 'probable, and who certainly
isn't, based on the intelligence information which they possess - why
aren't they using it?

Because it's politically incorrect. I heard a live interview on You
and Yours just after that nutter. The security rep said right away
that the airports and security services need to start observing the
likely people by body language and by using common sense instead of
imposing restrictions upon everyone. Let's face it, if you had two
guys at the checkout desk - one of them is a ginger haired Scot in a
kilt and the other is a middle-eastern looking guy with shifty eyes
and a slightly nervous disposition, then which one do you think is out
to drop the plane?
By the lack of our politicians actions we are all suffering by having
our liberties constantly restriced.
The terrorists are certainly winning.

McKevvy

Brenda Ann wrote:
Someone needs to do their friggin'
job and stop these yahoos BEFORE they get on the plane. This one could have
been stopped any of SEVERAL times before ever embarking! If I ever come
home, I'll take a friggin' BOAT, it's not so much more expensive anymore,
and you get your own room and don't have to eat nasty airline food (or deal
with a lack of it).

I suggest we get the **** out of their territory, let the Israelis level
the place, and be done with it.

Paul Hyett wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 at 05:17:27, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote in uk.politics.misc :

Far better technique than converting our societies into
ever-tightening "national security" states:

1) Stop invading and occupying other people's countries or fomenting
revolution in them, and 2) stop supporting those who do; if we did so,
90 per cent. of the hatred of the West would disappear in time. At the
same time we need to 3) take steps to prevent the invasion and
occupation of our own lands.

If they stopped carrying out terrorist attacks on the West, *we'd* stop
hassling *them*...

You go first.

Chicken and the egg......
America has long tried to change the world into it's own vision. The
UK has been its Poodle, certainly since Thatchers time, and probably
before.The 'Special relationship' IMHO is something which exists only
in the minds of some British politicians.
I do feel however, that the time has come for 'profiling' at airport
security. The Authorities know who is a 'probable, and who certainly
isn't, based on the intelligence information which they possess - why
aren't they using it?

Ask the Dutch. They're the ones who let the NUB* onto the plane.


*Nigerian Underwear Bomber

dave wrote:


Chicken and the egg......
America has long tried to change the world into it's own vision. The
UK has been its Poodle, certainly since Thatchers time, and probably
before.The 'Special relationship' IMHO is something which exists only
in the minds of some British politicians.
I do feel however, that the time has come for 'profiling' at airport
security. The Authorities know who is a 'probable, and who certainly
isn't, based on the intelligence information which they possess - why
aren't they using it?

Ask the Dutch. They're the ones who let the NUB* onto the plane.

Ask the Nigerians, they're the ones who gave him the boarding card.

Ask the US State Department, they're the ones who gave him a US visa.


--
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.

On 31 Dec, 13:19, dave wrote:
..

I suggest we get the **** out of their territory, let the Israelis level
the place, and be done with it.

I fear that Israel is the problem , not the solution.
There were no Arab terrorist attacks on western interests until 1970.
Make of that what you will