Former 60s radical/SDSer David Horowitz http://frontpagemag.com
explains clearly the who and the what of the Progressives’ agenda:

GLENN: Well yesterday was kind of a big day for education. National
Day of Action to Defend Education. There were national calls for
action. This sent thousands of people out into the streets,
California, there were people in Wisconsin, there were people in
Illinois. There was violence involved. UC Berkeley probably was the
biggest. David Horowitz is here with me now. Hi, David.

HOROWITZ: Morning, Glenn.

GLENN: David, you were part of the 1960s generation that, you know,
you were a useful idiot. Would you agree with that?

HOROWITZ: (Laughing). Well, I thought of myself as more than that.

GLENN: No, but I mean, that’s what Stalin

HOROWITZ: I was a Marxist revolutionary. That’s the way I would have
described myself. And I was a leader of the new left and edited its
largest magazine. And what the new left was, you know, was created, it
was a disintegration of the Communist Party really because of the
revelations about Stalin coming from Kruschev. So what happened was
that the movement, it was a lot of groups. What you see in these
protests is hundreds of groups. We used to call it the hydraheaded
monster and we created it to fool people that we had different agendas
from the from what the communists had. But actually they’re the same
agendas, that corporations are evil, we want socialism, we want the
government to own everything and control everything and create social
justice. And that’s what happened yesterday.

If you look down the organizations, they were all in a coalition
called Defend Education. But if you look at them, for example, there’s
one, Bail Out the People Movement, bail out the people, not the banks.
This is a front group for International Answer, which is a pro North
Korea Communist Party. I mean, it’s a Bolshevik party that
demonstrated the anti Iraq organizations. It was the leading
organizer.

GLENN: I remember that.

HOROWITZ: Yeah, you have something called Anakbayan. There’s a lot of
those, which means sons and daughters of the people. If you look at
the movement, you know how they support Hamas and Hezbollah, the
terrorists. They have got this campaign to stop the U.S. military
occupation of Haiti. This is what I call the neocommunist core of the
progressive movement. The progressive movement includes fellow, what I
would call fellow travelers. I mean, there are a lot of people who are
on the left who would understand that there’s a lot of crazies in the
movement. And then you have SDS, you know, which is a violent campus
organization.

GLENN: SDS, SDS is where the Weather Underground came from.

HOROWITZ: That’s right, yes.

GLENN: Right.

HOROWITZ: They were all SDS. They got elected to the SDS leadership
and then they said we’re going underground and we’re going to, we’re
going to you know, we’re going to be authentic revolutionaries. We’re
not just going to scream revolutionary slogans. We’re going to
actually blow things up. That was their

GLENN: What’s the

HOROWITZ: There are a lot of groups in here like that. There’s MEChA
which wants to take back the southwest, is a racist organization. They
call the southwest Aztlán, which I think is an Aztec name.

GLENN: Well, I love the logo of this organization because it has the
eagle with a stick of dynamite in its claw.

HOROWITZ: Well, yeah. I mean, I actually, I like the out front
people.

GLENN: Yeah. Me, too.

HOROWITZ: They tell you

GLENN: They’re much better than, they are much better than what we
have in the White House right now, the Van Jones of the world.

HOROWITZ: That’s right.

GLENN: That are I mean, is there any doubt in your mind that Van Jones
because I’ve read what some of these people are calling for. It’s
exactly what Van Jones is calling for. Is there any doubt in your mind
that Van Jones is as radical as these groups?

HOROWITZ: Of course he is. You can always ask somebody who came out of
the left, I can you know, I can tell you if you turn against it, if
you understand how evil it is and destructive and it wants to destroy
America and you don’t want to do that, you do what I did. I mean, you
get out and you denounce them and you work against them. It’s very
easy to tell who’s an authentic person who’s authentically had
different ideas and somebody who’s just concealing the same agendas,
you know, with a front. And that’s what Van Jones is.

GLENN: I was in a cab I was at a cab yesterday and the cabdriver was
from Russia, former Soviet Union. And he said finally he just pulled
over to drop me off and he said, Mr. Beck, I want you to know I am a
very big fan. And I said, thank you very much, sir. And he said,
people in America, they don’t understand. We talked for a little while
about the code language. He said even my daughter now, he came before
the fall of the Soviet Union. He said, even my daughter who is in
college now is falling for the code language, and she doesn’t believe
me. And I keep telling her, listen, this is the code language of the
Soviet Union. Agree or disagree, David?

HOROWITZ: Absolutely, I call them neocommunists. We have a term, you
know, neoliberals, neoconservatives, neo Nazis. These are
neocommunists. Same agendas, different faith. Like parents who are
members of the Communist Party never refer to themselves as
communists. They were always progressives. The slogan of the Communist
Party at the height under Stalin was peace, jobs and democracy. That
was the Communist Party slogan. But you can look, if you just go down
the list of these organizations. And let me just say not only are
there these, you know, fight imperialism and so forth but there’s the
American Federation of Teachers, there’s all these graduate

GLENN: There’s unions.

HOROWITZ: Unions. There’s the department of English at Penn State.
Indiana university is one of the

GLENN: David, are the unions .. you watch the TV show, right?

HOROWITZ: Yes.

GLENN: Yes. Have you seen the language that we’ve been showing people
lately from Andy Stern, with the Workers of the World?

HOROWITZ: Andy Stern is an old SDS radical. He’s a Leninist. The two,
what I would you [to] know, the two communist unions, aside from the
teacher unions would be the SEIU and AFSCME, which is the municipal
employees which is also here.

GLENN: It’s a sponsor of this.

HOROWITZ: You know, when there were antiglobalization riots, they’re
there. They’re part of this movement. There’s a good one that I like
he Destroy Industry in Raleigh, North Carolina. I mean, that tells
you what they’re about. It’s just terrible.

GLENN: David, how much I said earlier today, we played this Bald
Communist. Play this for David, will you, Pat, the Bald Communist?
Listen to this.

VOICE: And this is part of the thing is I don’t think we’re going to
be meeting people’s day to day needs and I don’t think we have to help
this capitalist system which has met the needs of American working
people on the backs of third world plantations for my whole lifetime.
We don’t have to help that. We have to help bring this government
down. We have to help destroy this system and that requires increasing
the alienation that working class and oppressed people feel.

HOROWITZ: Yeah. Glenn, yeah, I saw that tape. And thank you for
bringing that to light. What this guy is saying is what everybody on
the left believes. It’s very hard to convey this to people. People,
Americans, it’s just very benign and tolerant and they’re always
giving people the benefit of the doubt. What this guy is saying is
what they believe. He has the poor judgment to say it on tape. But
this is what

GLENN: Thank God.

HOROWITZ: What everybody who wants to change the world, what else
could they be thinking? You know, there are ways of changing the world
which is that you tell people, you know, we want to create a society
where the government controls everything, and you put it up for a
vote. In a democracy you put it up for a vote. But these people have
these hidden agendas and that’s what makes them so dangerous.

GLENN: So David, let me ask you two questions. The first one is, my
theory is the people that are your generation that were part of SDS,
that were part of the radical left back in the 1960s, they now are the
ruling class and they are in Congress, they are in the White House,
they are in business. They’re everywhere. They have power. And they’re
also very sly now because they’re undercover. These people are at the
top and they understand because they did it themselves, they
understand now what they didn’t have in the 1960s was power at the
top. So now they can stir up the hate and the students and bring the
student activists into play, get them going while they apply pressure
at the top and they pop the middle. Does that sound reasonable to
you?

HOROWITZ: Well, yeah. I think that it’s a little bit more complicated,
but you have absolutely described what it is. That is, the people who
were in the movement, we used to call it the movement in the Sixties
now are running the government and they run the New York Times and the
Washington Post. All those people were part of the left, of the
Sixties. And their agendas are the same as these other people. Their
tactics are different. So I don’t I think some of them are, you know,
embarrassed by this kind of radicalism. Certainly by that guy who you
have on tape. They feel he is hurting their cause. We want to conceal,
we want to conceal the agendas of the cause.

GLENN: Right. But their agenda is

HOROWITZ: But their agendas are identical because, look, to defend the
free market system, you defend private property, you defend individual
rights and you oppose group collective rights, or you don’t. And we
saw all these so-called liberals and progressives, they are against
the First Amendment, they attacked the Supreme Court decision which
was a basic First Amendment decision. They are for racists. They are
for racial preferences that is privileging certain designated groups
who they call oppressed. I mean, they’ve corrupted our laws that way.
And they are for socialism.

GLENN: Okay.

HOROWITZ: Obviously there wouldn’t be this unbelievable push for a
healthcare plan that, you know, a vast majority of people does not
want if they didn’t have these agendas. They want control. It’s about
control.

GLENN: David, hold on just a second because I have to take a quick
break and then I’m going to come back and I want to ask you this one
question and that is, how much danger are we in from the extreme
radical left if things like healthcare don’t pass? If this, if this
movement now breaks down, how much danger is the country in? Back in
just a second.

…: Back with David Horowitz, we have a special tonight on
indoctrination, video you must, must see, things that are going on in
your country that you had absolutely no idea. I asked David before we
went into the break, I’m concerned about this extreme left because as
Andy Stern said, you know, we want our money’s worth. These people
have put a lot of time, a lot of attention, a lot of manpower, a lot
of money behind this agenda, specifically healthcare, and counted on
Barack Obama. They are starting to mobilize in kind of violent ways.
How much trouble are we in, David, if this thing starts to fall apart
with Barack Obama and healthcare isn’t passed?

HOROWITZ: I think the potential for violence and actually disastrous
violence is very real and that is because these first of all, these
are violent groups and they will commit violent acts. But much more
serious is that they are integrated with our terrorist enemies. They
have networks and their ideology links them into the Islamic jihad.
I’ve written a book about this called Unholy Alliance [Google book;
Amazon]. I actually, I mean, I have experience of this. I mean, I was
a very intellectual leftist. I never threw a rock. But as the editor
of Ramparts magazine, which was the biggest magazine of the left, I
was approached by an editorial board, was approached by a defector
from our intelligence services. And we printed national secrets in the
magazine and, of course, nothing, nothing happened to us. We were
advised by .. I was advised actually by a Harvard law professor, still
a professor of constitutional law on exactly how to commit treason.

GLENN: Holy cow.

HOROWITZ: So this mentality, I’m telling you the revolutionary
mentality, the idea that you can change the world or change America
fundamentally, which is what Obama said, is a very, very dangerous
mentality.

GLENN: All right. David, I’ve got to run. Thank you so much. We’ll
talk again. I’d like to follow up some more with you in the coming
days on Andy Stern and his connection to SDS.

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress....avid-horowitz/

My guess is that most of those on the left today, will refuse to believe
anything Mr. Horowitz says.

∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
Former 60s radical/SDSer David Horowitz http://frontpagemag.com
explains clearly the who and the what of the Progressives’ agenda:

GLENN: Well yesterday was kind of a big day for education. National
Day of Action to Defend Education. There were national calls for
action. This sent thousands of people out into the streets,
California, there were people in Wisconsin, there were people in
Illinois. There was violence involved. UC Berkeley probably was the
biggest. David Horowitz is here with me now. Hi, David.

HOROWITZ: Morning, Glenn.

GLENN: David, you were part of the 1960s generation that, you know,
you were a useful idiot. Would you agree with that?

HOROWITZ: (Laughing). Well, I thought of myself as more than that.

GLENN: No, but I mean, that’s what Stalin

HOROWITZ: I was a Marxist revolutionary. That’s the way I would have
described myself. And I was a leader of the new left and edited its
largest magazine. And what the new left was, you know, was created, it
was a disintegration of the Communist Party really because of the
revelations about Stalin coming from Kruschev. So what happened was
that the movement, it was a lot of groups. What you see in these
protests is hundreds of groups. We used to call it the hydraheaded
monster and we created it to fool people that we had different agendas
from the from what the communists had. But actually they’re the same
agendas, that corporations are evil, we want socialism, we want the
government to own everything and control everything and create social
justice. And that’s what happened yesterday.

If you look down the organizations, they were all in a coalition
called Defend Education. But if you look at them, for example, there’s
one, Bail Out the People Movement, bail out the people, not the banks.
This is a front group for International Answer, which is a pro North
Korea Communist Party. I mean, it’s a Bolshevik party that
demonstrated the anti Iraq organizations. It was the leading
organizer.

GLENN: I remember that.

HOROWITZ: Yeah, you have something called Anakbayan. There’s a lot of
those, which means sons and daughters of the people. If you look at
the movement, you know how they support Hamas and Hezbollah, the
terrorists. They have got this campaign to stop the U.S. military
occupation of Haiti. This is what I call the neocommunist core of the
progressive movement. The progressive movement includes fellow, what I
would call fellow travelers. I mean, there are a lot of people who are
on the left who would understand that there’s a lot of crazies in the
movement. And then you have SDS, you know, which is a violent campus
organization.

GLENN: SDS, SDS is where the Weather Underground came from.

HOROWITZ: That’s right, yes.

GLENN: Right.

HOROWITZ: They were all SDS. They got elected to the SDS leadership
and then they said we’re going underground and we’re going to, we’re
going to you know, we’re going to be authentic revolutionaries. We’re
not just going to scream revolutionary slogans. We’re going to
actually blow things up. That was their

GLENN: What’s the

HOROWITZ: There are a lot of groups in here like that. There’s MEChA
which wants to take back the southwest, is a racist organization. They
call the southwest Aztlán, which I think is an Aztec name.

GLENN: Well, I love the logo of this organization because it has the
eagle with a stick of dynamite in its claw.

HOROWITZ: Well, yeah. I mean, I actually, I like the out front
people.

GLENN: Yeah. Me, too.

HOROWITZ: They tell you

GLENN: They’re much better than, they are much better than what we
have in the White House right now, the Van Jones of the world.

HOROWITZ: That’s right.

GLENN: That are I mean, is there any doubt in your mind that Van Jones
because I’ve read what some of these people are calling for. It’s
exactly what Van Jones is calling for. Is there any doubt in your mind
that Van Jones is as radical as these groups?

HOROWITZ: Of course he is. You can always ask somebody who came out of
the left, I can you know, I can tell you if you turn against it, if
you understand how evil it is and destructive and it wants to destroy
America and you don’t want to do that, you do what I did. I mean, you
get out and you denounce them and you work against them. It’s very
easy to tell who’s an authentic person who’s authentically had
different ideas and somebody who’s just concealing the same agendas,
you know, with a front. And that’s what Van Jones is.

GLENN: I was in a cab I was at a cab yesterday and the cabdriver was
from Russia, former Soviet Union. And he said finally he just pulled
over to drop me off and he said, Mr. Beck, I want you to know I am a
very big fan. And I said, thank you very much, sir. And he said,
people in America, they don’t understand. We talked for a little while
about the code language. He said even my daughter now, he came before
the fall of the Soviet Union. He said, even my daughter who is in
college now is falling for the code language, and she doesn’t believe
me. And I keep telling her, listen, this is the code language of the
Soviet Union. Agree or disagree, David?

HOROWITZ: Absolutely, I call them neocommunists. We have a term, you
know, neoliberals, neoconservatives, neo Nazis. These are
neocommunists. Same agendas, different faith. Like parents who are
members of the Communist Party never refer to themselves as
communists. They were always progressives. The slogan of the Communist
Party at the height under Stalin was peace, jobs and democracy. That
was the Communist Party slogan. But you can look, if you just go down
the list of these organizations. And let me just say not only are
there these, you know, fight imperialism and so forth but there’s the
American Federation of Teachers, there’s all these graduate

GLENN: There’s unions.

HOROWITZ: Unions. There’s the department of English at Penn State.
Indiana university is one of the

GLENN: David, are the unions .. you watch the TV show, right?

HOROWITZ: Yes.

GLENN: Yes. Have you seen the language that we’ve been showing people
lately from Andy Stern, with the Workers of the World?

HOROWITZ: Andy Stern is an old SDS radical. He’s a Leninist. The two,
what I would you [to] know, the two communist unions, aside from the
teacher unions would be the SEIU and AFSCME, which is the municipal
employees which is also here.

GLENN: It’s a sponsor of this.

HOROWITZ: You know, when there were antiglobalization riots, they’re
there. They’re part of this movement. There’s a good one that I like
he Destroy Industry in Raleigh, North Carolina. I mean, that tells
you what they’re about. It’s just terrible.

GLENN: David, how much I said earlier today, we played this Bald
Communist. Play this for David, will you, Pat, the Bald Communist?
Listen to this.

VOICE: And this is part of the thing is I don’t think we’re going to
be meeting people’s day to day needs and I don’t think we have to help
this capitalist system which has met the needs of American working
people on the backs of third world plantations for my whole lifetime.
We don’t have to help that. We have to help bring this government
down. We have to help destroy this system and that requires increasing
the alienation that working class and oppressed people feel.

HOROWITZ: Yeah. Glenn, yeah, I saw that tape. And thank you for
bringing that to light. What this guy is saying is what everybody on
the left believes. It’s very hard to convey this to people. People,
Americans, it’s just very benign and tolerant and they’re always
giving people the benefit of the doubt. What this guy is saying is
what they believe. He has the poor judgment to say it on tape. But
this is what

GLENN: Thank God.

HOROWITZ: What everybody who wants to change the world, what else
could they be thinking? You know, there are ways of changing the world
which is that you tell people, you know, we want to create a society
where the government controls everything, and you put it up for a
vote. In a democracy you put it up for a vote. But these people have
these hidden agendas and that’s what makes them so dangerous.

GLENN: So David, let me ask you two questions. The first one is, my
theory is the people that are your generation that were part of SDS,
that were part of the radical left back in the 1960s, they now are the
ruling class and they are in Congress, they are in the White House,
they are in business. They’re everywhere. They have power. And they’re
also very sly now because they’re undercover. These people are at the
top and they understand because they did it themselves, they
understand now what they didn’t have in the 1960s was power at the
top. So now they can stir up the hate and the students and bring the
student activists into play, get them going while they apply pressure
at the top and they pop the middle. Does that sound reasonable to
you?

HOROWITZ: Well, yeah. I think that it’s a little bit more complicated,
but you have absolutely described what it is. That is, the people who
were in the movement, we used to call it the movement in the Sixties
now are running the government and they run the New York Times and the
Washington Post. All those people were part of the left, of the
Sixties. And their agendas are the same as these other people. Their
tactics are different. So I don’t I think some of them are, you know,
embarrassed by this kind of radicalism. Certainly by that guy who you
have on tape. They feel he is hurting their cause. We want to conceal,
we want to conceal the agendas of the cause.

GLENN: Right. But their agenda is

HOROWITZ: But their agendas are identical because, look, to defend the
free market system, you defend private property, you defend individual
rights and you oppose group collective rights, or you don’t. And we
saw all these so-called liberals and progressives, they are against
the First Amendment, they attacked the Supreme Court decision which
was a basic First Amendment decision. They are for racists. They are
for racial preferences that is privileging certain designated groups
who they call oppressed. I mean, they’ve corrupted our laws that way.
And they are for socialism.

GLENN: Okay.

HOROWITZ: Obviously there wouldn’t be this unbelievable push for a
healthcare plan that, you know, a vast majority of people does not
want if they didn’t have these agendas. They want control. It’s about
control.

Which our friendly Usenet leftist refuse to believe.

GLENN: David, hold on just a second because I have to take a quick
break and then I’m going to come back and I want to ask you this one
question and that is, how much danger are we in from the extreme
radical left if things like healthcare don’t pass? If this, if this
movement now breaks down, how much danger is the country in? Back in
just a second.

…: Back with David Horowitz, we have a special tonight on
indoctrination, video you must, must see, things that are going on in
your country that you had absolutely no idea. I asked David before we
went into the break, I’m concerned about this extreme left because as
Andy Stern said, you know, we want our money’s worth. These people
have put a lot of time, a lot of attention, a lot of manpower, a lot
of money behind this agenda, specifically healthcare, and counted on
Barack Obama. They are starting to mobilize in kind of violent ways.
How much trouble are we in, David, if this thing starts to fall apart
with Barack Obama and healthcare isn’t passed?

HOROWITZ: I think the potential for violence and actually disastrous
violence is very real and that is because these first of all, these
are violent groups and they will commit violent acts. But much more
serious is that they are integrated with our terrorist enemies. They
have networks and their ideology links them into the Islamic jihad.
I’ve written a book about this called Unholy Alliance [Google book;
Amazon]. I actually, I mean, I have experience of this. I mean, I was
a very intellectual leftist. I never threw a rock. But as the editor
of Ramparts magazine, which was the biggest magazine of the left, I
was approached by an editorial board, was approached by a defector
from our intelligence services. And we printed national secrets in the
magazine and, of course, nothing, nothing happened to us. We were
advised by .. I was advised actually by a Harvard law professor, still
a professor of constitutional law on exactly how to commit treason.

GLENN: Holy cow.

HOROWITZ: So this mentality, I’m telling you the revolutionary
mentality, the idea that you can change the world or change America
fundamentally, which is what Obama said, is a very, very dangerous
mentality.

GLENN: All right. David, I’ve got to run. Thank you so much. We’ll
talk again. I’d like to follow up some more with you in the coming
days on Andy Stern and his connection to SDS.

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress....avid-horowitz/

W

On Mar 6, 9:58*am, David Hartung wrote:
My guess is that most of those on the left today, will refuse to believe
anything Mr. Horowitz says.


So explain to us how Bush and the conservatives gained soooooo much in
Iraq? I still don't get that failure. And tell us, for the first
time, how you scum failed to stop a major recession.

Kevin Cunningham wrote:
On Mar 6, 9:58 am, David Hartung wrote:
My guess is that most of those on the left today, will refuse to believe
anything Mr. Horowitz says.


So explain to us how Bush and the conservatives gained soooooo much in
Iraq? I still don't get that failure. And tell us, for the first
time, how you scum failed to stop a major recession.

Which has nothing to do with the topic.

On Mar 6, 8:07*am, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:58:04 -0600, David Hartung

wrote:
My guess is that most of those on the left today, will refuse to believe
anything Mr. Horowitz says.

For the GOOD reason that the things Horowitz advocates, along with the
political ideology carrier it come with---are total failures.

The PUBLIC RECORD contains the truth and proof that what Horowitz
advocated is bogus, and that conservatism does NOT have any
discernable track record of success in ANY undertaking---save "maybe"
outrageous militaristic excesses.

It is very good at concentrating Midas-like wealth among a handful of
people, however.

On Mar 6, 6:22Â*am, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
Former 60s radical/SDSer David Horowitzhttp://frontpagemag.com
explains clearly the who and the what of the Progressives’ agenda:

GLENN: Well yesterday was kind of a big day for education. National
Day of Action to Defend Education. There were national calls for
action. This sent thousands of people out into the streets,
California, there were people in Wisconsin, there were people in
Illinois. There was violence involved. UC Berkeley probably was the
biggest. David Horowitz is here with me now. Hi, David.

HOROWITZ: Morning, Glenn.

GLENN: David, you were part of the 1960s generation that, you know,
you were a useful idiot. Would you agree with that?

HOROWITZ: (Laughing). Well, I thought of myself as more than that.

GLENN: No, but I mean, that’s what Stalin

HOROWITZ: I was a Marxist revolutionary. That’s the way I would have
described myself. And I was a leader of the new left and edited its
largest magazine. And what the new left was, you know, was created, it
was a disintegration of the Communist Party really because of the
revelations about Stalin coming from Kruschev. So what happened was
that the movement, it was a lot of groups. What you see in these
protests is hundreds of groups. We used to call it the hydraheaded
monster and we created it to fool people that we had different agendas
from the from what the communists had. But actually they’re the same
agendas, that corporations are evil, we want socialism, we want the
government to own everything and control everything and create social
justice. And that’s what happened yesterday.

If you look down the organizations, they were all in a coalition
called Defend Education. But if you look at them, for example, there’s
one, Bail Out the People Movement, bail out the people, not the banks.
This is a front group for International Answer, which is a pro North
Korea Communist Party. I mean, it’s a Bolshevik party that
demonstrated the anti Iraq organizations. It was the leading
organizer.

GLENN: I remember that.

HOROWITZ: Yeah, you have something called Anakbayan. There’s a lot of
those, which means sons and daughters of the people. If you look at
the movement, you know how they support Hamas and Hezbollah, the
terrorists. They have got this campaign to stop the U.S. military
occupation of Haiti. This is what I call the neocommunist core of the
progressive movement. The progressive movement includes fellow, what I
would call fellow travelers. I mean, there are a lot of people who are
on the left who would understand that there’s a lot of crazies in the
movement. And then you have SDS, you know, which is a violent campus
organization.

GLENN: SDS, SDS is where the Weather Underground came from.

HOROWITZ: That’s right, yes.

GLENN: Right.

HOROWITZ: They were all SDS. They got elected to the SDS leadership
and then they said we’re going underground and we’re going to, we’re
going to you know, we’re going to be authentic revolutionaries. We’re
not just going to scream revolutionary slogans. We’re going to
actually blow things up. That was their

GLENN: What’s the

HOROWITZ: There are a lot of groups in here like that. There’s MEChA
which wants to take back the southwest, is a racist organization. They
call the southwest Aztlán, which I think is an Aztec name.

GLENN: Well, I love the logo of this organization because it has the
eagle with a stick of dynamite in its claw.

HOROWITZ: Well, yeah. I mean, I actually, I like the out front
people.

GLENN: Yeah. Me, too.

HOROWITZ: They tell you

GLENN: They’re much better than, they are much better than what we
have in the White House right now, the Van Jones of the world.

HOROWITZ: That’s right.

GLENN: That are I mean, is there any doubt in your mind that Van Jones
because I’ve read what some of these people are calling for. It’s
exactly what Van Jones is calling for. Is there any doubt in your mind
that Van Jones is as radical as these groups?

HOROWITZ: Of course he is. You can always ask somebody who came out of
the left, I can you know, I can tell you if you turn against it, if
you understand how evil it is and destructive and it wants to destroy
America and you don’t want to do that, you do what I did. I mean, you
get out and you denounce them and you work against them. It’s very
easy to tell who’s an authentic person who’s authentically had
different ideas and somebody who’s just concealing the same agendas,
you know, with a front. And that’s what Van Jones is.

GLENN: I was in a cab I was at a cab yesterday and the cabdriver was
from Russia, former Soviet Union. And he said finally he just pulled
over to drop me off and he said, Mr. Beck, I want you to know I am a
very big fan. And I said, thank you very much, sir. And he said,
people in America, they don’t understand. We talked for a little while
about the code language. He said even my daughter now, he came before
the fall of the Soviet Union. He said, even my daughter who is in
college now is falling for the code language, and she doesn’t believe
me. And I keep telling her, listen, this is the code language of the
Soviet Union. Agree or disagree, David?

HOROWITZ: Absolutely, I call them neocommunists. We have a term, you
know, neoliberals, neoconservatives, neo Nazis. These are
neocommunists. Same agendas, different faith. Like parents who are
members of the Communist Party never refer to themselves as
communists. They were always progressives. The slogan of the Communist
Party at the height under Stalin was peace, jobs and democracy. That
was the Communist Party slogan. But you can look, if you just go down
the list of these organizations. And let me just say not only are
there these, you know, fight imperialism and so forth but there’s the
American Federation of Teachers, there’s all these graduate

GLENN: There’s unions.

HOROWITZ: Unions. There’s the department of English at Penn State..
Indiana university is one of the

GLENN: David, are the unions .. you watch the TV show, right?

HOROWITZ: Yes.

GLENN: Yes. Have you seen the language that we’ve been showing people
lately from Andy Stern, with the Workers of the World?

HOROWITZ: Andy Stern is an old SDS radical. He’s a Leninist. The two,
what I would you [to] know, the two communist unions, aside from the
teacher unions would be the SEIU and AFSCME, which is the municipal
employees which is also here.

GLENN: It’s a sponsor of this.

HOROWITZ: You know, when there were antiglobalization riots, they’re
there. They’re part of this movement. There’s a good one that I like
he Destroy Industry in Raleigh, North Carolina. I mean, that tells
you what they’re about. It’s just terrible.

GLENN: David, how much I said earlier today, we played this Bald
Communist. Play this for David, will you, Pat, the Bald Communist?
Listen to this.

VOICE: And this is part of the thing is I don’t think we’re going to
be meeting people’s day to day needs and I don’t think we have to help
this capitalist system which has met the needs of American working
people on the backs of third world plantations for my whole lifetime.
We don’t have to help that. We have to help bring this government
down. We have to help destroy this system and that requires increasing
the alienation that working class and oppressed people feel.

HOROWITZ: Yeah. Glenn, yeah, I saw that tape. And thank you for
bringing that to light. What this guy is saying is what everybody on
the left believes. It’s very hard to convey this to people. People,
Americans, it’s just very benign and tolerant and they’re always
giving people the benefit of the doubt. What this guy is saying is
what they believe. He has the poor judgment to say it on tape. But
this is what

GLENN: Thank God.

HOROWITZ: What everybody who wants to change the world, what else
could they be thinking? You know, there are ways of changing the world
which is that you tell people, you know, we want to create a society
where the government controls everything, and you put it up for a
vote. In a democracy you put it up for a vote. But these people have
these hidden agendas and that’s what makes them so dangerous.

GLENN: So David, let me ask you two questions. The first one is, my
theory is the people that are your generation that were part of SDS,
that were part of the radical left back in the 1960s, they now are the
ruling class and they are in Congress, they are in the White House,
they are in business. They’re everywhere. They have power. And they’re
also very sly now because they’re undercover. These people are at the
top and they understand because they did it themselves, they
understand now what they didn’t have in the 1960s was power at the
top. So now they can stir up the hate and the students and bring the
student activists into play, get them going while they apply pressure
at the top and they pop the middle. Does that sound reasonable to
you?

HOROWITZ: Well, yeah. I think that it’s a little bit more complicated,
but you have absolutely described what it is. That is, the people who
were in the movement, we used to call it the movement in the Sixties
now are running the government and they run the New York Times and the
Washington Post. All those people were part of the left, of the
Sixties. And their agendas are the same as these other people. Their
tactics are different. So I don’t I think some of them are, you know,
embarrassed by this kind of radicalism. Certainly by that guy who you
have on tape. They feel he is hurting their cause. We want to conceal,
we want to conceal the agendas of the cause.

GLENN: Right. But their agenda is

HOROWITZ: But their agendas are identical because, look, to defend the
free market system, you defend private property, you defend individual
rights and you oppose group collective rights, or you don’t. And we
saw all these so-called liberals and progressives, they are against
the First Amendment, they attacked the Supreme Court ...

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