On 3/18/10 07:15 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On Mar 17, 11:46 am, Joe from wrote:
You've been pretty quiet. You doin' OK?

bpnjensen wrote:

He was not absolutely clear last week, but it *sounded* like he was
preparing for some R&R of some sort. I certainly hope it is not
more serious than this. One thing that concerned us was that he
said he had not eaten anything for several days. Let's keep him in
our thoughts.

dave wrote:

I think he's kicking either Vicodin or Oxycontin.

Now you're concerning me. Oxycontin depresses the central nervous
system, you go to sleep...and you may never wake up. A very treacherous
drug.



He's got some extreme back pain. That alone can be debilitating.

Sometimes I wake up with a ketch in my neck or in my hip.Sometimes my
back bothers me.Sometimes I get a cramp in one or both of my legs at the
same time, that is 'Fun'! NOT!
cuhulin

On 3/18/10 09:50 , Steve wrote:
On Mar 18, 10:27 am, wrote:
dxAce will be back.He won't be taking any prisoners either!
cuhulin

I on the other hand am prepared to take a few prisoners. Maybe 9 or 10
or so...however many will fit in the crawlspace beneath my house.


Oh, you're not even trying. Gacy got 33 in there.

What goes around comes around.



On 3/18/2010 10:56 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 3/18/10 07:15 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On Mar 17, 11:46 am, Joe from wrote:
You've been pretty quiet. You doin' OK?

bpnjensen wrote:

He was not absolutely clear last week, but it *sounded* like he was
preparing for some R&R of some sort. I certainly hope it is not
more serious than this. One thing that concerned us was that he
said he had not eaten anything for several days. Let's keep him in
our thoughts.

dave wrote:

I think he's kicking either Vicodin or Oxycontin.

Now you're concerning me. Oxycontin depresses the central nervous
system, you go to sleep...and you may never wake up. A very treacherous
drug.



He's got some extreme back pain. That alone can be debilitating.

Nothing but hard lumpy dirt under the crawl space of my house, so hard
its almost like concrete, dirt and clay soil.I use my cheapo knee pads I
bought at the Lowe's store when I need to crawl around under there.I
have to watch out! if I raise my head up too high, those floor boards
nails might git me! I have a head band strap on LED head light and also
a cap which has built in LED lights, I bought them at the Lowe's store
too.They come in handy sometimes.
cuhulin

Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On Mar 17, 11:46 am, Joe from wrote:
You've been pretty quiet. You doin' OK?

bpnjensen wrote:

He was not absolutely clear last week, but it *sounded* like he was
preparing for some R&R of some sort. I certainly hope it is not
more serious than this. One thing that concerned us was that he
said he had not eaten anything for several days. Let's keep him in
our thoughts.

dave wrote:

I think he's kicking either Vicodin or Oxycontin.

Now you're concerning me. Oxycontin depresses the central nervous
system, you go to sleep...and you may never wake up. A very treacherous
drug.

dave wrote:

He was complaining bitterly about not being able to get treatment for
pain. I sensed junky panic.

Well, maybe...kinda...sorta...

Severe back pain can be very difficult to control. Furthermore, it is
relatively easy to unwittingly get the monkey on your back. Just happens
in the normal course of treatment. And if you are on other drugs (or
alcohol -- as Lare was occasionally known to do), well, watch out! See
my statement above about going to sleep and waking up dead. :-(

He isn't listed in the http://www.hollandsentinel.com
Obituaries.
http://www.onlinenewspapers.com

Heh, that married Irish woman wayyyyyyy over yonder across the big pond,
one time she told me if she doesn't hear from me in quite a while, she
checks the Obituaries at
http://www.clarionledger.com
How morbid is that!?

You leave that chair alone!
//Why? nobody is sitting in it//
I am waiting for Rigor Mortis to sit in!
cuhulin

D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 3/18/10 07:15 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On Mar 17, 11:46 am, Joe from wrote:
You've been pretty quiet. You doin' OK?

bpnjensen wrote:

He was not absolutely clear last week, but it *sounded* like he was
preparing for some R&R of some sort. I certainly hope it is not
more serious than this. One thing that concerned us was that he
said he had not eaten anything for several days. Let's keep him in
our thoughts.

dave wrote:

I think he's kicking either Vicodin or Oxycontin.

Now you're concerning me. Oxycontin depresses the central nervous
system, you go to sleep...and you may never wake up. A very treacherous
drug.



He's got some extreme back pain. That alone can be debilitating.


If that's the case, he needs to go to Pain Management and get an
epidural corticosteroid injection.

Joe from Kokomo wrote:


Well, maybe...kinda...sorta...

Severe back pain can be very difficult to control. Furthermore, it is
relatively easy to unwittingly get the monkey on your back. Just happens
in the normal course of treatment. And if you are on other drugs (or
alcohol -- as Lare was occasionally known to do), well, watch out! See
my statement above about going to sleep and waking up dead. :-(

I offered advice. I have some experience.

D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 3/18/10 07:15 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On Mar 17, 11:46 am, Joe from wrote:
You've been pretty quiet. You doin' OK?

bpnjensen wrote:

He was not absolutely clear last week, but it *sounded* like
he was preparing for some R&R of some sort. I certainly hope
it is not more serious than this. One thing that concerned us
was that he said he had not eaten anything for several days.
Let's keep him in our thoughts.

dave wrote:

I think he's kicking either Vicodin or Oxycontin.

Now you're concerning me. Oxycontin depresses the central nervous
system, you go to sleep...and you may never wake up. A very
treacherous drug.



He's got some extreme back pain. That alone can be debilitating.

dave wrote:

If that's the case, he needs to go to Pain Management and get an
epidural corticosteroid injection.

Joe from Kokomo wrote:

If chronic pain, have you gone to a clinic that specializes in that
(versus just going in to the ER)?

On March 9, dxAce wrote:

Yes, I have gone to a clinic. Good results there until recently, but
that may be due to miscommunication on my part (I'm not perfect, nor
do I claim to be).

He WAS going to a pain management clinic. Sometimes, they make you sign
a contract not to use any other meds. I'm strictly reading between
the lines here, but it almost sounds like the pain clinic dumped him for
violating the contract...??? (just a guess)