Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24

http://3950.net/2010/04/liberty-net-...f-april-17-24/

by Kevin Strom, WB4AIO

LATELY there’s been some real disagreement and debate on the Liberty
Net, the longest-running discussion net in Amateur Radio history.
Some participants believe that virtually all politicians are liars
and totally corrupt servants of the moneyed oligarchs, except
perhaps for a tiny number of right-libertarians like Ron and Rand
Paul, and populists like James Traficant and Eliot Spitzer. Other
“Liberty Netters” believe that the only exceptions to criminal
politicians can be found in left-progressives like Dennis Kucinich
and the late Ted Kennedy. Is this conflict resolvable? The two sides
also have diametrically opposed views on the Tea Party movement.
Will patriots who oppose the oligarchs ever come to a consensus? I
don’t know, but the free speech and cross-fertilization of ideas are
bracing and thought-provoking.

Here are some of the highlights of this week’s Net:

• The FBI has officially admitted that there was — when there were
still patriots in the FBI — an FBI file on Obama’s grandfather, and
they also admit that that file was destroyed. Was it because BHO’s
grandfather was a friend of Communist Party member and drug dealer
Frank Marshall Davis? (15 minutes)

• Is hatred for White people the central motivating factor driving
Obama’s attempted “wealth redistribution” schemes? (19 minutes)

• Bill Clinton has now openly stated that “all this anti-government
talk” is a prelude to civil war in the United States. (20 minutes)

• We should all remember the victims of the government kill team
that murdered the innocent men, women, and children in Waco, Texas
17 years ago. (30 minutes)

• In Iraq, the U.S. government is forcing farmers to use sterile
hybrid (and genetically modified) seeds sold by Monsanto Corporation
— which means the farmers cannot use seeds from their own crops to
plant next year. (37 minutes)

• We need an investigation into the exact role of Hank Paulson at
Goldman Sachs when it was issuing fraudulent debt securities. We
already know that hedge fund firm Paulson and Company was created by
Goldman specifically to hide the fact that they were betting against
their own investors. (50 minutes)

• It’s important to remember that Goldman Sachs (and its ilk) is not
an American company like Collins or Hallicrafters — they make
nothing; they just take — and fund politicians like Barack Hussein
Obama who steer billions of dollars their way. Furthermore, the
parasites who created Goldman Sachs will “retire” the name and
surface under another name whenever it serves their purposes. (1
hour 28 minutes)

• NuShawn Williams, the AIDS-infected Black man who purposely
infected 13 White females (and one non-White female) with HIV, most
of them between the ages of 12 and 17, and who stated that his goal
was to infect 300 by having multiple sex partners every day, is due
to be released this week. There has been a move to detain him
civilly, but that can only last for 60 days. (2 hours 12 minutes)

• The idea of total international “interdependence” is a poisonous
one, which threatens to destroy the individual character of nations
and peoples — and which reduces choice for the individual, who will
increasingly be forced to conform to one global standard. (3 hours 0
minutes)

• What is the best word to describe George Soros and his kind? (3
hours 7 minutes)

Don’t forget you can download the Liberty Net right here on
http://3950.net — or listen live via N2SAG or N2IRJ. Thanks as
always to Vic, W1WCR who makes it all happen every Saturday night at
10PM Eastern Time somewhere within 10 kHz or so of 3950 kHz.

http://3950.net/2010/04/liberty-net-...f-april-17-24/

--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

On Apr 22, 12:26*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom kevin.st...@revilo-
oliver.com wrote:
Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24

http://3950.net/2010/04/liberty-net-...f-april-17-24/

by Kevin Strom, WB4AIO

LATELY there s been some real disagreement and debate on the Liberty
Net, the longest-running discussion net in Amateur Radio history.
Some participants believe that virtually all politicians are liars
and totally corrupt servants of the moneyed oligarchs, except
perhaps for a tiny number of right-libertarians like Ron and Rand
Paul, and populists like James Traficant and Eliot Spitzer. Other
Liberty Netters believe that the only exceptions to criminal
politicians can be found in left-progressives like Dennis Kucinich
and the late Ted Kennedy. Is this conflict resolvable? The two sides
also have diametrically opposed views on the Tea Party movement.
Will patriots who oppose the oligarchs ever come to a consensus? I
don t know, but the free speech and cross-fertilization of ideas are
bracing and thought-provoking.

Here are some of the highlights of this week s Net:

The FBI has officially admitted that there was when there were
still patriots in the FBI an FBI file on Obama s grandfather, and
they also admit that that file was destroyed. Was it because BHO s
grandfather was a friend of Communist Party member and drug dealer
Frank Marshall Davis? (15 minutes)

Is hatred for White people the central motivating factor driving
Obama s attempted wealth redistribution schemes? (19 minutes)

Bill Clinton has now openly stated that all this anti-government
talk is a prelude to civil war in the United States. (20 minutes)

We should all remember the victims of the government kill team
that murdered the innocent men, women, and children in Waco, Texas
17 years ago. (30 minutes)

In Iraq, the U.S. government is forcing farmers to use sterile
hybrid (and genetically modified) seeds sold by Monsanto Corporation
which means the farmers cannot use seeds from their own crops to
plant next year. (37 minutes)

We need an investigation into the exact role of Hank Paulson at
Goldman Sachs when it was issuing fraudulent debt securities. We
already know that hedge fund firm Paulson and Company was created by
Goldman specifically to hide the fact that they were betting against
their own investors. (50 minutes)

It s important to remember that Goldman Sachs (and its ilk) is not
an American company like Collins or Hallicrafters they make
nothing; they just take and fund politicians like Barack Hussein
Obama who steer billions of dollars their way. Furthermore, the
parasites who created Goldman Sachs will retire the name and
surface under another name whenever it serves their purposes. (1
hour 28 minutes)

NuShawn Williams, the AIDS-infected Black man who purposely
infected 13 White females (and one non-White female) with HIV, most
of them between the ages of 12 and 17, and who stated that his goal
was to infect 300 by having multiple sex partners every day, is due
to be released this week. There has been a move to detain him
civilly, but that can only last for 60 days. (2 hours 12 minutes)

The idea of total international interdependence is a poisonous
one, which threatens to destroy the individual character of nations
and peoples and which reduces choice for the individual, who will
increasingly be forced to conform to one global standard. (3 hours 0
minutes)

What is the best word to describe George Soros and his kind? (3
hours 7 minutes)

Don t forget you can download the Liberty Net right here onhttp://3950.netor listen live via N2SAG or N2IRJ. Thanks as
always to Vic, W1WCR who makes it all happen every Saturday night at
10PM Eastern Time somewhere within 10 kHz or so of 3950 kHz.

http://3950.net/2010/04/liberty-net-...f-april-17-24/

--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA

On 4/22/10 12:11 , Gregg wrote:
On Apr 22, 12:26 pm, Kevin Alfred Stromkevin.st...@revilo-
oliver.com wrote:
Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24

http://3950.net/2010/04/liberty-net-...f-april-17-24/

by Kevin Strom, WB4AIO

LATELY there s been some real disagreement and debate on the Liberty
Net, the longest-running discussion net in Amateur Radio history.
Some participants believe that virtually all politicians are liars
and totally corrupt servants of the moneyed oligarchs, except
perhaps for a tiny number of right-libertarians like Ron and Rand
Paul, and populists like James Traficant and Eliot Spitzer. Other
Liberty Netters believe that the only exceptions to criminal
politicians can be found in left-progressives like Dennis Kucinich
and the late Ted Kennedy. Is this conflict resolvable? The two sides
also have diametrically opposed views on the Tea Party movement.
Will patriots who oppose the oligarchs ever come to a consensus? I
don t know, but the free speech and cross-fertilization of ideas are
bracing and thought-provoking.

Here are some of the highlights of this week s Net:

The FBI has officially admitted that there was when there were
still patriots in the FBI an FBI file on Obama s grandfather, and
they also admit that that file was destroyed. Was it because BHO s
grandfather was a friend of Communist Party member and drug dealer
Frank Marshall Davis? (15 minutes)

Is hatred for White people the central motivating factor driving
Obama s attempted wealth redistribution schemes? (19 minutes)

Bill Clinton has now openly stated that all this anti-government
talk is a prelude to civil war in the United States. (20 minutes)

We should all remember the victims of the government kill team
that murdered the innocent men, women, and children in Waco, Texas
17 years ago. (30 minutes)

In Iraq, the U.S. government is forcing farmers to use sterile
hybrid (and genetically modified) seeds sold by Monsanto Corporation
which means the farmers cannot use seeds from their own crops to
plant next year. (37 minutes)

We need an investigation into the exact role of Hank Paulson at
Goldman Sachs when it was issuing fraudulent debt securities. We
already know that hedge fund firm Paulson and Company was created by
Goldman specifically to hide the fact that they were betting against
their own investors. (50 minutes)

It s important to remember that Goldman Sachs (and its ilk) is not
an American company like Collins or Hallicrafters they make
nothing; they just take and fund politicians like Barack Hussein
Obama who steer billions of dollars their way. Furthermore, the
parasites who created Goldman Sachs will retire the name and
surface under another name whenever it serves their purposes. (1
hour 28 minutes)

NuShawn Williams, the AIDS-infected Black man who purposely
infected 13 White females (and one non-White female) with HIV, most
of them between the ages of 12 and 17, and who stated that his goal
was to infect 300 by having multiple sex partners every day, is due
to be released this week. There has been a move to detain him
civilly, but that can only last for 60 days. (2 hours 12 minutes)

The idea of total international interdependence is a poisonous
one, which threatens to destroy the individual character of nations
and peoples and which reduces choice for the individual, who will
increasingly be forced to conform to one global standard. (3 hours 0
minutes)

What is the best word to describe George Soros and his kind? (3
hours 7 minutes)

Don t forget you can download the Liberty Net right here onhttp://3950.netor listen live via N2SAG or N2IRJ. Thanks as
always to Vic, W1WCR who makes it all happen every Saturday night at
10PM Eastern Time somewhere within 10 kHz or so of 3950 kHz.

http://3950.net/2010/04/liberty-net-...f-april-17-24/

--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA


It looks more like a guide for the purposes of following the
recording as posted.

Gregg wrote:
[...]

Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA


Peter's right -- it's a guide for some of the more notable moments
in the _recording_ that was just posted. I'm sorry if that wasn't
more clear. Since the Liberty Net is really not a show at all, but a
loosely-structured open discussion with an emphasis on free speech,
there'd be no way for me to predict what will be on the air next week!

Every week Marty, N2IRJ, uploads his recording of the Net, and I
post a link to that recording in the "Liberty Net Audio" list in the
upper right column on http://3950.net/ -- usually within one day of
the Net itself. Then a few days later I post my article with a brief
discussion of the highlights.


With best regards,



Kevin, WB4AIO.
--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

On Apr 22, 2:45*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
Gregg wrote:

[...]



Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA

Peter's right -- it's a guide for some of the more notable moments
in the _recording_ that was just posted. I'm sorry if that wasn't
more clear. Since the Liberty Net is really not a show at all, but a
loosely-structured open discussion with an emphasis on free speech,
there'd be no way for me to predict what will be on the air next week!

Every week Marty, N2IRJ, uploads his recording of the Net, and I
post a link to that recording in the "Liberty Net Audio" list in the
upper right column onhttp://3950.net/-- usually within one day of
the Net itself. Then a few days later I post my article with a brief
discussion of the highlights.

With best regards,

Kevin, WB4AIO.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/


Your efforts are much appreciated, but may I suggest that
"April 17 Liberty Net" might be less confusing than saying
"Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24".

DEFCON 88 wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:45 pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
Gregg wrote:

[...]



Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA
Peter's right -- it's a guide for some of the more notable moments
in the _recording_ that was just posted. I'm sorry if that wasn't
more clear. Since the Liberty Net is really not a show at all, but a
loosely-structured open discussion with an emphasis on free speech,
there'd be no way for me to predict what will be on the air next week!

Every week Marty, N2IRJ, uploads his recording of the Net, and I
post a link to that recording in the "Liberty Net Audio" list in the
upper right column onhttp://3950.net/-- usually within one day of
the Net itself. Then a few days later I post my article with a brief
discussion of the highlights.

With best regards,

Kevin, WB4AIO.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/


Your efforts are much appreciated, but may I suggest that
"April 17 Liberty Net" might be less confusing than saying
"Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24".


Maybe you're right -- but I hate to have an article title that
discourages the uninitiated from reading it because they might think
it's "out of date."

Maybe I should just title them with a snippet from some discussion
theme, and leave the time-stamping to the recording (which N2IRJ
always timestamps), the CMS, and Usenet.


With every good wish,


Kevin, WB4AIO.
--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

On 4/22/10 14:56 , Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
DEFCON 88 wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:45 pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
Gregg wrote:

[...]



Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA
Peter's right -- it's a guide for some of the more notable moments
in the _recording_ that was just posted. I'm sorry if that wasn't
more clear. Since the Liberty Net is really not a show at all, but a
loosely-structured open discussion with an emphasis on free speech,
there'd be no way for me to predict what will be on the air next week!

Every week Marty, N2IRJ, uploads his recording of the Net, and I
post a link to that recording in the "Liberty Net Audio" list in the
upper right column onhttp://3950.net/-- usually within one day of
the Net itself. Then a few days later I post my article with a brief
discussion of the highlights.

With best regards,

Kevin, WB4AIO.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/


Your efforts are much appreciated, but may I suggest that
"April 17 Liberty Net" might be less confusing than saying
"Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24".


Maybe you're right -- but I hate to have an article title that
discourages the uninitiated from reading it because they might think
it's "out of date."

Maybe I should just title them with a snippet from some discussion
theme, and leave the time-stamping to the recording (which N2IRJ always
timestamps), the CMS, and Usenet.



Or refer directly to the recording. Not everyone who'd be
interested in the content has a good listening venue. I, myself, no
stranger to tough captures, find that some signals from the Liberty
Net are not easily readable, while the recording allows me to hear
the signals I may miss.

Similar benefits may apply to others.

But one things I do suggest is that you continue. I don't often
agree with the conclusions, or the presentation of some of the
Liberty Net members, but these types of discussions, throughout the
culture, have been taking place in the shadows for far too long. If
nothing else, exposing the Liberty Net to a wider audience begins
dialog that is essential for maintaining the direct involvement of
the People in their government.

While broadcasting on the ham bands is illegal, such discussion
groups are not.

That said, live streaming from a monitoring point may be a next
step.

On Apr 22, 11:45*am, Kevin Alfred Strom kevin.st...@revilo-
oliver.com wrote:
Gregg wrote:

[...]



Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA

Peter's right -- it's a guide for some of the more notable moments
in the _recording_ that was just posted. I'm sorry if that wasn't
more clear. Since the Liberty Net is really not a show at all, but a
loosely-structured open discussion with an emphasis on free speech,
there'd be no way for me to predict what will be on the air next week!

Every week Marty, N2IRJ, uploads his recording of the Net, and I
post a link to that recording in the "Liberty Net Audio" list in the
upper right column onhttp://3950.net/-- usually within one day of
the Net itself. Then a few days later I post my article with a brief
discussion of the highlights.

With best regards,

Kevin, WB4AIO.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

Hot Dang! And I thought it was prerecorded before a live audience!

On Apr 22, 3:56*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
DEFCON 88 wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:45 pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
Gregg wrote:

[...]

Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA
Peter's right -- it's a guide for some of the more notable moments
in the _recording_ that was just posted. I'm sorry if that wasn't
more clear. Since the Liberty Net is really not a show at all, but a
loosely-structured open discussion with an emphasis on free speech,
there'd be no way for me to predict what will be on the air next week!

Every week Marty, N2IRJ, uploads his recording of the Net, and I
post a link to that recording in the "Liberty Net Audio" list in the
upper right column onhttp://3950.net/--usually within one day of
the Net itself. Then a few days later I post my article with a brief
discussion of the highlights.

With best regards,

Kevin, WB4AIO.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

Your efforts are much appreciated, but may I suggest that
"April 17 Liberty Net" might be less confusing than saying
"Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24".

Maybe you're right -- but I hate to have an article title that
discourages the uninitiated from reading it because they might think
it's "out of date."

Maybe I should just title them with a snippet from some discussion
theme, and leave the time-stamping to the recording (which N2IRJ
always timestamps), the CMS, and Usenet.

With every good wish,

Kevin, WB4AIO.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


No big deal, this is your gig and you're in charge. We appreciate your
excellent work.

On Apr 22, 2:45*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
Gregg wrote:

[...]



Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA

Peter's right -- it's a guide for some of the more notable moments
in the _recording_ that was just posted. I'm sorry if that wasn't
more clear. Since the Liberty Net is really not a show at all, but a
loosely-structured open discussion with an emphasis on free speech,
there'd be no way for me to predict what will be on the air next week!

Every week Marty, N2IRJ, uploads his recording of the Net, and I
post a link to that recording in the "Liberty Net Audio" list in the
upper right column onhttp://3950.net/-- usually within one day of
the Net itself. Then a few days later I post my article with a brief
discussion of the highlights.

Ah, thanks guys. I thought I knew the right answer but I was wrong.
Good deal, I'll definitely use that from here on out.