On May 26, 10:30*am, Bill Baka wrote:
On 05/26/2010 07:33 AM, bpnjensen wrote:





On May 26, 7:13 am, (F. Prefect) wrote:
On Tue, 25 May 2010 23:08:25 -0700, Bill
wrote:

On 05/25/2010 03:22 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
On May 25, 1:54 pm, (F. Prefect) wrote:
On Tue, 25 May 2010 13:22:04 -0700, Bill
wrote:

On 05/25/2010 03:56 AM, SPierce wrote:
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You know it and I know it, but it will probably never happen. Average
people will just try to block any progress in this genetic engineering
experiment (voluntary of course).
big sigh
Bill Baka

# Waste of effort anyway. *The Africans are multiplying like the plague
through white people feeding them and treating their diseases.

Yeah, tell me about it. We have been sending food for those starving
children for about 40 years now and they grow up and make still more
starving children. Some of the adults who once were starving children
just grow up to be militants toting AK-47's and grenade launchers. If we
didn't have so many bleeding hearts in this country nature could just
take it's course.
It is a lose, lose, lose even worse situation.
Sorry about the 'Reality', but that is what it is.
Bill Baka

On the mark. *The North American midwest, and the US as a whole for
that matter is the ONE and ONLY means of keeping alive a World
population that could not support half of current numbers without US
agricultural production.

Many believe that the drought/dustbowl of the 30s was some kind of a
500 year even in which almost no rainfall occured. *Actually most
areas recieved 50% of normal rainfall. *Plenty of rainfall to support
prairy grasses, but not corn or wheat. *Such sever droughts are NOT
500 year events, but occur *regularly every several decades.

A drop of as little as 25% in US food production in one year would
have devasting effects in many regions, and should the drought
continue for 3-5 years as was the case in the 30s, we would see
anarchy in many areas.

CURRENT World populations simply cannot be supported indefinetly, much
less continued growth.

It;s a ticking timebomb.

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Bingo, and the big aquifers - like the Ogalalla under the southern
Great Plains - have been drained almost dry too. *We really need to
reel back our numbers, nationally by at least half, and worldwide by
an order of magnitude.

Well, as I said 6.5 billion as too much already. We need to shrink the
population down to maybe 2 billion to live comfortably and only 1
billion to leave in relative luxury.

Advances in science and technology have allow for what for all entents
and purposes is a population that simply cannot be sustained over the
long term. *Mother Nature holds the ultimate trump card.

Unfortunetely for many, your numbers may be quite accurate.

F. Prefect
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I think an order of magnitude drop - well under a billion - is
probably more like it. *What other large, gluttonous mammal numbers
anywhere near what we humans do?

None. And none have the power to recklessly destroy the planet, but we
sure can thanks to 'technology'.



We could do this in three generations if every couple just had one
child born and then grow to maturity.

Never gonna happen. Catholics, or Christians seem to think they are
ordained to have as many kids as they can. We might get up to the 8
billion mark before we have a catastrophic event, like a super volcano
putting us in the permanent winter for 3 years or so. It has happened
before and many people just starved to death. Yellowstone is a prime
candidate as it is known to be a super volcano. If it erupts It would
not only take out a few stated but the ash in the stratosphere would
give us a 3 or 4 year winter.
Human nature is "Me, Me, and Me", so get ready.
Bill Baka





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Yellowstone is my favorite place, bar none. May it last unexploded as
least as long as I (and my son) shall live...after that, Kablooey!

On 05/26/2010 11:03 AM, Bob Dobbs wrote:
Bill Baka wrote:

We could do this in three generations if every couple just had one
child born and then grow to maturity.

Never gonna happen. Catholics, or Christians seem to think they are
ordained to have as many kids as they can.

It's the cockroach survival strategy whereby they're more offspring to scurry
beneath the fridge than a home dweller can stomp when the lights come on.
Allows an abdication of responsible thought and prudent planning
for the outcome of the human species.
IOW: let go - let god

Amen. Roger that. 10-4.
Bill Baka

On May 26, 11:17*am, Bob Dobbs wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:

Yellowstone is my favorite place, bar none. *May it last unexploded as
least as long as I (and my son) shall live...after that, Kablooey!

Nothing like the eery mist of a fumarole in the early morning sunlight.

--

Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42

Amen.

I remember a group of upscale well educated upper income people living
in a communal house in New Orleans. Since each only had to support a
room, and only their share of the commons like the kitchen & living
room, the per capita carbon footprint was low enuf, that on a global
basis, it could support 8 or more billions.

The nuclear family house is not sustainable.

On 05/26/2010 05:04 PM, Day Brown wrote:
I remember a group of upscale well educated upper income people living
in a communal house in New Orleans. Since each only had to support a
room, and only their share of the commons like the kitchen & living
room, the per capita carbon footprint was low enuf, that on a global
basis, it could support 8 or more billions.

The nuclear family house is not sustainable.

Not only won't work, but silly to even think that way. 8 billion can't
be fed for very long.

On 05/26/2010 01:14 PM, F. Prefect wrote:
On Wed, 26 May 2010 10:30:43 -0700, Bill
wrote:

We could do this in three generations if every couple just had one
child born and then grow to maturity.

Never gonna happen. Catholics, or Christians seem to think they are
ordained to have as many kids as they can. We might get up to the 8
billion mark before we have a catastrophic event, like a super volcano
putting us in the permanent winter for 3 years or so. It has happened
before and many people just starved to death. Yellowstone is a prime
candidate as it is known to be a super volcano. If it erupts It would
not only take out a few stated but the ash in the stratosphere would
give us a 3 or 4 year winter.
Human nature is "Me, Me, and Me", so get ready.
Bill Baka

(sigh)
Excellent points. Without the North American "bread basket" I doubt
the planet could support half that are alive today, and only a couple
of poor crop years could lead to the deads of millions.

The drought of the 1930s was no 1000 year event. Meteorologists and
geologists have shown it can occur every several decades and amounted
to only an approx. 50% decrease in annual rainfall. The Ogallala
Aquifer would of course be of some help, but much of it is located in
areas that REQUIRE irrigation given "normal" seasonal rainfall, and
water tables have already seen significant falls in many areas
prompting a ban on further well drilling. IMO the current World
population is a giant ticking timebomb.

Bingo. Right on the mark. The **** will hit the fan at some point and
not too far in the future. 2012 might be a very interesting year.
Bill Baka

On 05/26/2010 02:33 PM, SPierce wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
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Never gonna happen. Catholics, or Christians seem to think they are
ordained to have as many kids as they can. .
Bill Baka


# Actually, the Christian nations are not breeding enough to maintain their
culture. Europe is in serious decline as far as numbers of white
Christians go. The problems of overpopulation are in Africa and India and
the Muslim countries....the ones that can't produce enough food to feed
themselves but have large families anyway.

God will provide...they still think, but America ends up sending them food
and gets called the Great Satan. Easy to see where the brains got
distributed.

Although India is now self-sustaining since the Americans bred some miracle
rice for them. Another big Christian inspired mistake.


I do have to wonder why the underclass is so intent on over-breeding and
lowering the collective IQ of the human race. I think we are in
de-evolution mode. What ever happened to survival of the fittest??
Bill Baka

"Bill Baka" wrote in message
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What ever happened to survival of the fittest??

Civilization.

On 05/26/2010 06:00 PM, Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
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What ever happened to survival of the fittest??

Civilization.


Right on the mark.

Overpopulation is NONSENSE!

Overpolulation, people will be harping on that a hundred, a thousand, a
million years from now.
cuhulin