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Default Kramers lies refuted yet again....................................

On 7/4/2010 1:01 PM, LarbGai wrote:
On Jul 4, 3:44 pm, wrote:
On 7/3/2010 4:41 PM, LarbGai wrote:

I have ALWAYS provided proof of my statements,


All you have posted is a photo and your interpretation of that photo,
while others have completely and effectively contradicted you.


*******REALLY????? I notice Dave/Steve that you are not denying any
of the other allegations.


Can you really be that stupid?!? Do you understand what the words
'completely and effectively contradicted you' mean?

****** As usual all bluster and bluff but no facts.


That facts are right there for everyone to see. No matter what you say
to try to contradict that. Everyone.

Sorry, but the evidence is overwhelming. Larbgai you lie.


Sorry, but the evidence is overwhelming. Larbgai you lie.

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On 4/07/2010 7:39 PM, Takin & Kanoknuan wrote:
Robert Johnson was a well-respected popular businessman selling


Well respected? Surely you jest? He was the butt of all the jokes in the
expat community in Chiang Mai and was known to all Thais as "that crazy
farang"!

wonderful food in Chiang Mai before Kraven came along. Somehow, Kraven


The food wasn't all that bad. Would have been a lot better if Johnson
had taken into account some basic food hygiene practices. That may have
prevented a few outbreaks of food poisoning.

convinced the ENTIRE city of Chiang Mai (second largest city in
Thailand) to stop buying Robert's products completely, forcing Robert to
sell his business.


The entire city? Johnson's products were not targeted at Thai people.
The products were more suited to western tastes and would only have been
bought by Thais who wanted to be seen to be living a western lifestyle.
Most of the Thai people I know have yet to be convinced that western
food is better than Thai food. Having tried Thai food myself, I can see
why.
I reckon you need to figure in the food poisoning outbreaks as a prime
factor in the sales decline!

Kraven did such a good job convincing 1,600,000 people that Robert's
products (or Robert himself) were no good


I wonder how one person manages to convince over a million and a half
people that a particular product is no good? Take over the newspapers?
The TV and radio stations? Send out flyers to every home? Strange that I
never heard of a foreign takeover of the media in Northern Thailand! Now
that would have made the news worldwide. After all, a bunch of Thais
taking over a few city blocks recently managed to attract worldwide
media attention.
No, I think it was Robert Johnson himself, with all his weird antics,
who convinced the people of Chiang Mai, Thailand that his products were
no good.

so he had to sell his recipes, all his food production machines,
delivery trucks, etc., for less than the price of a used car.


Food production machines?? What rot! Since when does a row of Thai women
working at a long bench constitute a "machine"?? I notice you used the
plural in "delivery trucks". Since when does one beat up old truck
deserve pluralising?? Anyway, he did well out of the sale. After all,
his truck, the long bench, the tureens and a few grinders weren't worth
all that much anyway. Note, the women weren't included in the
"machinery" sale!

He even convinced Robert's neighbors to dump all their garbage in
Robert's yard,


Yes, Asian people do that to those for whom they have lost all respect!
Robert Johnson, through his alcoholism and subsequent abuse of Thai
citizens, offended his neighbours and was the cause of his own problems.

forcing Johnson to have to install five high security cameras around his
property.


Johnson's neighbours hated him and he knew this. It was Johnson's fear
of retribution that forced him to have to install security cameras.

I don't know how he did this, but he sure is a bully.

If you don't know, why assume? To be fair, a little logic, a whole load
of common sense, and some knowledge of Robert Johnson should make it
rather easy to figure out! In this instance, Robert Johnson was his own
worst enemy.

Krypsis



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On Jul 4, 10:57*pm, Krypsis wrote:

If you don't know, why assume? To be fair, a little logic, a whole load
of common sense, and some knowledge of Robert Johnson should make it
rather easy to figure out! In this instance, Robert Johnson was his own
worst enemy.

Krypsis


******You never fail to amaze Krypto. 55 years pushing a tea trolly
around in Canberra and you are an expert on Bob Johnson.

Please post all the urls that you are getting this info from.



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On Jul 4, 10:51*pm, David wrote:

That facts are right there for everyone to see. No matter what you say
to try to contradict that. Everyone.



******Well just post the urls. Enough of the bluster, post the facts.

Hmmmmmmmm Why do photography awards come to mind.
Another lie of Kramers proven beyond ALL doubt.

*GRIN*
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On 7/5/2010 9:30 PM, Tom Smith wrote:
On Jul 4, 1:39 pm, wrote:

Hiding? Have you tried sending him an e-mail? He answered mine in less
than 12 hours. I wrote to the address in his web page. His ISP is
Loxinfo based in Thailand. If THAT is what you call 'hiding.'

You trolls are pretty dumb.


David if you need to contact Steve and for some reason he does not
answer you, I believe he has another address for when he is not in
Bangkok but rather at his Singapore home. I am obviously not going to
post it here, but I'm sure he will pass it on to you if required. He
may not respond immediately as I believe he is often busy working
between Bangkok and Singapore.


Thanks, but I just pushed the button on his website, which connected to
his e-mail address and got an immediate answer.

You are correct in that he is back an forth often, actually, according
to his message, all over S.E.Asia not just Singapore and Bangkok. His
ISP was a Bangkok server when he wrote to me the other day, but I'm sure
he uses local servers where ever he goes. He can still use his same
e-mail address no matter where he is.


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On Jul 4, 3:45*am, David wrote:
On 7/4/2010 2:22 PM, rod wrote:

by the by, we've missed you over at rec.scuba


According to the Advanced Search with Google, 'Rod Shaftenaur' is a sock
puppet of Robert Johnson. In fact, when one makes a post, usually the
other does withing a few minutes.

Except by cross-posting, 'Rod Shaftenaur' never posted to rec.scuba.

I think the trolls are pretty dumb!


***Did someone mention my name?...
Rec.scuba? Sock puppet of Cheesy Bob? C'mon!
Your research gets a FAILING grade. Go to summer school and learn how
to do quality unbiased research.

Rockin' Rod Shaftenauer
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