Has anybody on the west coast, west of of the Rockies in general terms, been
able to copy any east coast powerhouse BCB's stations like WLW, KDKA, WSM,
etc.? One time a few years ago I copied WLW on the car radio at 11PM,
caught the ID and the program after the news. I seem to be limited now with
reception from the east as I'm copying more Spanish speaking stations,
either from Mexico or U.S. based stations.

By the way, is IBOC still around or did it finally die off?



VegasNightOwl

On Jul 30, 12:46*am, "VegasNightOwl"
wrote:
Has anybody on the west coast, west of of the Rockies in general terms, been
able to copy any east coast powerhouse BCB's stations like WLW, KDKA, WSM,
etc.? *One time a few years ago I copied WLW on the car radio at 11PM,
caught the ID and the program after the news. *I seem to be limited now with
reception from the east as I'm copying more Spanish speaking stations,
either from Mexico or U.S. based stations.

By the way, is IBOC still around or did it finally die off?

VegasNightOwl

VNO,

WLW-AM on 700 kHz at 50KW is an example of
how the old Clear Channel AM/MW Radio Stations
are not-so-clear channel and now only have a
'protected' broadcast zone or 750 {Air} MIles.

FCC AM Query = 137 Records for 700 kHz
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state...2=&EW=W&size=9

KDKA 1020 kHz
{FCC has 200+ Records for 1020 kHz}

WSM 650 kHz
{FCC has 136+ Records for 650 kHz}

Maybe you need a Remote Desert DXing Spot :
-Note- Do your Scouting and Set-Up during the
Day and come back around Twilight to start your
DXing.
-Tip- Dress for the Desert and being outdoors.
Boots & Hat + Water, etc.

In Nevada find yourself a one of those long gently
sloping valleys that seam to go on forever . . .

Drive far out into the desert, or at lease a few
miles away from anything man-made.

Get on the western-side of the valley with the
down ward slope facing toward the Eastern Sky.

Run an Insulated Stranded Wire along the Desert
Floor for 100, 200, 500 or 1000 Feet; usually the
longer the better. Point this Wire toward :
CHI ~ 70*
NYC ~ 80*
Shot-the-Middle for Due East @ 90*
ATL ~ 100*
MIA ~ 120*
{your choice}

-Tip- Use a Map and Compass to figure where
you want your Wire to run to hit your Target
Area {City/State} of Reception.

Put a 4-Foot Ground Rod at the far-eastern-end
and Strip an Inch or two of the Insulation from the
End and Attach the Wire to the Ground Rod using
a Clamp.

-Alternative- Use a 1-Watt Resistor between the
end for the Wire and the Ground Rod : 220 Ohm;
330 Ohm; 470 Ohm; 620 Ohm; 750 Ohm; and
910 Ohm. Pick and choose a Resistor to see
what works best for you with this Antenna at
your location. -OR- Don't connect the Wire to
the Ground Rod and see what you hear.

Take a 5-Gallon Jeep Can full of Water and Soak*
the Ground for about a foot or two around the
Ground Rod; use all of the Water.
* Do this to the Ground each time you use
the Antenna for the Night.

At the near-western-end of the Wire Strip back
the Insulation and connect to your AM Radio
or your Car's Whip Antenna.

It is Import to "Mark" this Near-Western-End
Location very well so that you can Find "It" in
the Twilight when you come back : Painted
Stake, Reflectors, Piled Rocks; all three.

Beverage On Ground [BOG] Antenna
http://www.am-dx.com/antenna_overview.htm
-and- http://www.qsl.net/wb5ude/bog/

hope this helps - iane ~ RHF

On Jul 30, 3:46*am, "VegasNightOwl"
wrote:
Has anybody on the west coast, west of of the Rockies in general terms, been
able to copy any east coast powerhouse BCB's stations like WLW, KDKA, WSM,
etc.? *One time a few years ago I copied WLW on the car radio at 11PM,
caught the ID and the program after the news. *I seem to be limited now with
reception from the east as I'm copying more Spanish speaking stations,
either from Mexico or U.S. based stations.

By the way, is IBOC still around or did it finally die off?

VegasNightOwl

I am on the East Coast, and have the same problem in reverse.

I heard KSL once while parked at the beach in Florida, otherwise I
have heard nothing West of Nebraska.
73
Dan AI8O

On Jul 30, 12:23*pm, dave wrote:
- - VegasNightOwl wrote:
- - Has anybody on the west coast, west of of the Rockies
- - in general terms, been able to copy any east coast
- - powerhouse BCB's stations like WLW, KDKA, WSM,
- - etc.? *

One time a few years ago I copied WLW on the car radio at 11PM,
caught the ID and the program after the news. *I seem to be limited now with
reception from the east as I'm copying more Spanish speaking stations,
either from Mexico or U.S. based stations.

- - By the way, is IBOC still around or did it finally die off?

Yes FM IBOC Radio Stations are On-the-Air and
I just heard an AD for IBOC "Double Your Radio
Stations For Free" last night on KUSP 89.7 [NPR]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KUSP


VegasNightOwl

When I was a kid in Phoenix the Class As had the whole country to
themselves. *I could get WBZ, WLS, KDKA, WSM, KWKH, WHO, etc. just fine..
* The FCC decided to destroy AM radio at night about 20 years ago.

Most Radio Advertising is Local; and your Local
Congressman has seen that the FCC understands
that Economic Reality of US Business.

- You should be able to get KOA 850, KSL 1150 and KOKC 1520.

None of which is on the "East Coast" and the Target
AM/MW Radio Stations that he listed.

VegasNightOwl wrote:
Has anybody on the west coast, west of of the Rockies in general terms, been
able to copy any east coast powerhouse BCB's stations like WLW, KDKA, WSM,
etc.? One time a few years ago I copied WLW on the car radio at 11PM,
caught the ID and the program after the news. I seem to be limited now with
reception from the east as I'm copying more Spanish speaking stations,
either from Mexico or U.S. based stations.

By the way, is IBOC still around or did it finally die off?



VegasNightOwl





When I was a kid in Phoenix the Class As had the whole country to
themselves. I could get WBZ, WLS, KDKA, WSM, KWKH, WHO, etc. just fine.
The FCC decided to destroy AM radio at night about 20 years ago.

You should be able to get KOA 850, KSL 1150 and KOKC 1520.

RHF wrote:


-Tip- Use a Map and Compass to figure where
you want your Wire to run to hit your Target
Area {City/State} of Reception.


A map? Are you sure? Unless you have a great circle map centered at
your receive site you'll have better luck with a globe and a string.

On Jul 30, 12:31*pm, dave wrote:
RHF wrote:

-Tip- Use a Map and Compass to figure where
you want your Wire to run to hit your Target
Area {City/State} of Reception.

A map? *Are you sure? *Unless you have a great circle map centered at
your receive site you'll have better luck with a globe and a string.

The "East Coast" and the Target AM/MW Radio
Stations that he listed are around 2200 Air Miles
from Las Vegas, NV.

For a 500 Foot BOG Antenna from Las Vegas, NV
these general headings :
CHI ~ 70*
NYC ~ 80*
Shoot-the-Middle for Due East @ 90*
ATL ~ 100*
MIA ~ 120*
{your choice}
Will get you 'close enough' {In-the-Zone} to Receive
the Target Area/City/States

Beverage-On-the-Ground [BOG] Antenna
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4fc3323dde7474
The Beam-Width {Best Receiving Angle}
is in the general direction of the Far-End
and is around 60~90 Degrees.

~ RHF

RHF wrote:


Most Radio Advertising is Local; and your Local
Congressman has seen that the FCC understands
that Economic Reality of US Business.

- You should be able to get KOA 850, KSL 1150 and KOKC 1520.

None of which is on the "East Coast" and the Target
AM/MW Radio Stations that he listed.
.

Radio is about serving the public, and making a little money on the
side. You cannot do good radio if all you care about is maximizing
profits. Companies shouldn't be allowed to own more than 12 stations.

Rural Americans deserve choice too. George Noory every 10 KHz is not
choice.

RHF wrote:
On Jul 30, 12:31 pm, wrote:
RHF wrote:

-Tip- Use a Map and Compass to figure where
you want your Wire to run to hit your Target
Area {City/State} of Reception.

A map? Are you sure? Unless you have a great circle map centered at
your receive site you'll have better luck with a globe and a string.

The "East Coast" and the Target AM/MW Radio
Stations that he listed are around 2200 Air Miles
from Las Vegas, NV.

For a 500 Foot BOG Antenna from Las Vegas, NV
these general headings :
CHI ~ 70*
NYC ~ 80*
Shoot-the-Middle for Due East @ 90*
ATL ~ 100*
MIA ~ 120*
{your choice}
Will get you 'close enough' {In-the-Zone} to Receive
the Target Area/City/States

Beverage-On-the-Ground [BOG] Antenna
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4fc3323dde7474
The Beam-Width {Best Receiving Angle}
is in the general direction of the Far-End
and is around 60~90 Degrees.

~ RHF
.

Atlanta is 86.5 degrees N-S relative to Las Vegas

http://www.gcmap.com/dist?P=LAS-ATL

"RHF" wrote in message
...
On Jul 30, 12:46 am, "VegasNightOwl"
wrote:
Has anybody on the west coast, west of of the Rockies in general terms,
been
able to copy any east coast powerhouse BCB's stations like WLW, KDKA, WSM,
etc.? One time a few years ago I copied WLW on the car radio at 11PM,
caught the ID and the program after the news. I seem to be limited now
with
reception from the east as I'm copying more Spanish speaking stations,
either from Mexico or U.S. based stations.

By the way, is IBOC still around or did it finally die off?

VegasNightOwl

VNO,

WLW-AM on 700 kHz at 50KW is an example of
how the old Clear Channel AM/MW Radio Stations
are not-so-clear channel and now only have a
'protected' broadcast zone or 750 {Air} MIles.

FCC AM Query = 137 Records for 700 kHz
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state...2=&EW=W&size=9

KDKA 1020 kHz
{FCC has 200+ Records for 1020 kHz}

WSM 650 kHz
{FCC has 136+ Records for 650 kHz}

Maybe you need a Remote Desert DXing Spot :
-Note- Do your Scouting and Set-Up during the
Day and come back around Twilight to start your
DXing.
-Tip- Dress for the Desert and being outdoors.
Boots & Hat + Water, etc.

In Nevada find yourself a one of those long gently
sloping valleys that seam to go on forever . . .

Drive far out into the desert, or at lease a few
miles away from anything man-made.

Get on the western-side of the valley with the
down ward slope facing toward the Eastern Sky.

Run an Insulated Stranded Wire along the Desert
Floor for 100, 200, 500 or 1000 Feet; usually the
longer the better. Point this Wire toward :
CHI ~ 70*
NYC ~ 80*
Shot-the-Middle for Due East @ 90*
ATL ~ 100*
MIA ~ 120*
{your choice}

-Tip- Use a Map and Compass to figure where
you want your Wire to run to hit your Target
Area {City/State} of Reception.

Put a 4-Foot Ground Rod at the far-eastern-end
and Strip an Inch or two of the Insulation from the
End and Attach the Wire to the Ground Rod using
a Clamp.

-Alternative- Use a 1-Watt Resistor between the
end for the Wire and the Ground Rod : 220 Ohm;
330 Ohm; 470 Ohm; 620 Ohm; 750 Ohm; and
910 Ohm. Pick and choose a Resistor to see
what works best for you with this Antenna at
your location. -OR- Don't connect the Wire to
the Ground Rod and see what you hear.

Take a 5-Gallon Jeep Can full of Water and Soak*
the Ground for about a foot or two around the
Ground Rod; use all of the Water.
* Do this to the Ground each time you use
the Antenna for the Night.

At the near-western-end of the Wire Strip back
the Insulation and connect to your AM Radio
or your Car's Whip Antenna.

It is Import to "Mark" this Near-Western-End
Location very well so that you can Find "It" in
the Twilight when you come back : Painted
Stake, Reflectors, Piled Rocks; all three.

Beverage On Ground [BOG] Antenna
http://www.am-dx.com/antenna_overview.htm
-and- http://www.qsl.net/wb5ude/bog/

hope this helps - iane ~ RHF