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The government tightens it's grip around the throat of those who dare
question their agents actions. A Brooklyn jury took less than two hours Friday to convict right-wing loudmouth Harold (Hal) Turner of threatening to kill three Chicago judges. Turner's mom and teenage son gasped and sobbed as the jury found the Internet shock jock guilty of a single charge of threatening to murder the judges - a charge that carries up to 10 years in prison. An ashen-faced Turner stripped off his tie and belt and handed his wallet to a clerk before he was led out of the courtroom in downtown Brooklyn. "I love you, dad," his son, Michael Turner, 16, said after the verdict was read. Relatives of Turner angrily denounced the lightning-quick verdict, which came on the fourth day of his second retrial. Two previous trials ended in mistrials after jurors were unable to agree on a verdict. "There goes the First Amendment for everyone," said Kathy Diamond, Turner's mother. "These judges, their job is to protect the Constitution, not shred it. She hugged her grandson who also insisted his father did nothing wrong. "It's totally wrong," Michael Turner. "It's (his) opinion not a threat." Jurors rushed out of the Brooklyn Heights courtroom without speaking to reporters. No date was set for sentencing. Prosecutors say the former radio host threatened federal judges Richard Posner, William Bauer and Frank Easterbrook after they upheld Chicago's ban on handguns. "Let me be the first to say this plainly: these judges deserve to be killed," Turner posted on his website in June 2009. Turner, 48, of North Bergen, N.J., also posted the judges' phone numbers and office addresses, federal prosecutor Diane MacArthur told the jury. The first two trials for Turner ended in deadlocked juries. The case was heard in Brooklyn so Turner would not be on trial in the judges' own courthouse. Read mo http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...8-13_conservat ive_internet_shock_jock_harold_hal_turner_convicte d_of_threatening_to_k. html#ixzz0wn9QqZjO -- Best Regards, Keith http://home.comcast.net/~kilowattradio/ Tired of Google Groups? Free Usenet Access & Programs http://home.comcast.net/~kilowattradio/usenet.html |
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On Aug 16, 1:43*pm, Keith wrote:
[...] "Let me be the first to say this plainly: these judges deserve to be killed," Turner posted on his website in June 2009. I dunno, that sounds like merely an opinion to me. He never personally threatened to kill the judges. But then again I guess when the government considers itself to be a god, it can railroad anyone who doesn't bow down before it. |
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Keith wrote:
The government tightens it's grip around the throat of those who dare question their agents actions. A Brooklyn jury took less than two hours Friday to convict right-wing loudmouth Harold (Hal) Turner of threatening to kill three Chicago judges. xxxx Sounds like this moron got what he deserves. |
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On 8/16/10 14:08 , SMITH29 wrote:
Keith wrote: The government tightens it's grip around the throat of those who dare question their agents actions. A Brooklyn jury took less than two hours Friday to convict right-wing loudmouth Harold (Hal) Turner of threatening to kill three Chicago judges. xxxx Sounds like this moron got what he deserves. Be that as it may, when the government goes after an outspoken critic with criminal charges, it should give all of us the willies. And reason to look more closely at what actually took place. |
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D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 8/16/10 14:08 , SMITH29 wrote: Keith wrote: The government tightens it's grip around the throat of those who dare question their agents actions. A Brooklyn jury took less than two hours Friday to convict right-wing loudmouth Harold (Hal) Turner of threatening to kill three Chicago judges. xxxx Sounds like this moron got what he deserves. Be that as it may, when the government goes after an outspoken critic with criminal charges, it should give all of us the willies. And reason to look more closely at what actually took place. xxxx What gives me the willies is someone with a microphone advocating bloodshed concerning gun laws. NO Second Amendment advocate wants to hear or read this kind of language. "Let me be the first to say this plainly: these judges deserve to be killed," He was WAYYYY out of bounds and he has to take responsibility for broadcasting that about principals of the court. |
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On Aug 16, 2:59*pm, (Drooling Idiot) wrote:
wrote: The government tightens it's grip around the throat of those who dare question their agents actions. "There goes the First Amendment for everyone," said Kathy Diamond, Turner's mother. I mean, if you can't threaten to kill a federal judge, who can you make death threats to? *Next they'll be telling us we can't threaten to rape our girlfriends or blow up a building!! *Why the hell can't I threaten to kill a federal official? *I pay their salary, doesn't that mean that I own them and can end their lives or make their lives a living hell??? Sarcasm off But he didn't threaten to kill them. He merely stated his opinion that they should be killed for their unconstitutional ruling. He never stated or implied that he himself wanted, or would even try, to kill them. A big difference IMO. |
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We Have Met The Enemy And He Is Us ~ Pogo Possum.
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On Aug 16, 3:37*pm, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 8/16/10 14:08 , SMITH29 wrote: Keith wrote: The government tightens it's grip around the throat of those who dare question their agents actions. A Brooklyn jury took less than two hours Friday to convict right-wing loudmouth Harold (Hal) Turner of threatening to kill three Chicago judges. xxxx Sounds like this moron got what he deserves. * *Be that as it may, when the government goes after an outspoken critic with criminal charges, it should give all of us the willies. * *And reason to look more closely at what actually took place. Apparently Turner was an FBI informant trying to flush out anti- government types with his inflammatory rhetoric. I wonder why they REALLY threw one of their own overboard? |
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DEFCON 88 wrote:
On Aug 16, 2:59 pm, (Drooling Idiot) wrote: wrote: The government tightens it's grip around the throat of those who dare question their agents actions. "There goes the First Amendment for everyone," said Kathy Diamond, Turner's mother. I mean, if you can't threaten to kill a federal judge, who can you make death threats to? Next they'll be telling us we can't threaten to rape our girlfriends or blow up a building!! Why the hell can't I threaten to kill a federal official? I pay their salary, doesn't that mean that I own them and can end their lives or make their lives a living hell??? Sarcasm off But he didn't threaten to kill them. He merely stated his opinion that they should be killed for their unconstitutional ruling. He never stated or implied that he himself wanted, or would even try, to kill them. A big difference IMO. xxxx To say they " deserve to be killed " over a ruling is to go off the end of reasonable speech. And Federal Judges no less? He advocated an act of violence against three officers of the court. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/advocate Sorry, I see jail time for this blabber mouth. |
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